Depp v. Heard Transcript Amber Heard
Depp v. Heard / Day 15 / May 5, 2022
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Amber Heard's direct examination continued through alleged abuse from 2013 to March 2015, culminating in her detailed account of the three-day Australia incident including an alleged sexual assault and Depp's severed fingertip.
Procedural
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COURT BAILIFF: All rise.

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COURT BAILIFF: Please be seated and come to order.

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THE COURT: Good morning.

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THE COURT: All right. Before the jury comes out, I want to let you know, for planning purposes, I plan to go until 5 :30 today because we lost a little time throughout the week So, we will go to 5:30 today.

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THE COURT: Starting when we come back, on May 16th, I want to start at 9:00. So we will be going 9 to 5 starting those last two weeks, just to give us a little bit more of a factor there so we can get all our time in, okay?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Just two exhibits. Defendant's 167 and 170. I've already given --

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THE COURT: Defendant's 167.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And 170 with redactions.

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THE COURT: Okay. Perfect.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: We're still working with counsel on redactions on one of the plaintiff's exhibits from yesterday.

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THE COURT: Okay. So we've got those two. All right.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

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THE COURT: Anything else before the jury comes out?

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MR. CHEW: No, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

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THE COURT: Get the jury.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury entered the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

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THE COURT: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

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THE COURT: I just wanted to let you know that today we're going to go until 5:30. So I just I wanted to let you know at the beginning of the day that we'll be going until 5:30, okay? Thank you.

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THE COURT: All right. Your next question, ma'am

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

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[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, when we finished yesterday, we were talking about the Bahamas and the yacht and flying out in a helicopter. I'm going to just ask you to take a look at --

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, if you can bring up Defendant's exhibit 1091. I think that's 1090. Scary that I would know that.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this picture?

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MS. HEARD: Yes. That looks like the picture I took of Johnny in July, around July of 2013.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And why did you take this picture?

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MS. HEARD: Because, at the time, there were - I was already sensitive. I had been in a relationship with Johnny for over a year, you know, coming up on two years, and I had already noted that there was this pattern of behavior changes with him that would make my life significantly more complicated or peaceful, difficult, or wonderful, depending on what the cycle -what he was using. And I only could tell that he was using because I had - I would have to look for clues and, you know, he would pass out and, you know, get sick and lose control of himself. And then people would pick him up and clean him up and fix it.

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MS. HEARD: And he wouldn't either remember or he would deny it or he would accuse me of saying that this had happened when it didn't. And there was no one to back me up. You know, there was no - it was just his employees and everyone who had been taking care of him versus my word. And so I started to take pictures to say, look, this is happening. This is, you know - I understood enough about addiction to know that you have to hit rock bottom. Like, you have to have some consequence for your action or for your behavior, if you ever change to get better.

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MS. HEARD: And it seemed, to me, like that was not happening, so I - I noticed a behavior pattern change and he started to, instead of, you know, fits of rage, he started to pass out a lot and fall asleep and kind of fall asleep mid conversation. It was just a pattern change. So I started to pick up on the clues so I could figure out what I was dealing with.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I would like to move the admission of Exhibit 1091.

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THE COURT: Any objection?

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MS. VASQUEZ: No objection, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: 1091 in evidence. You can publish.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And, Ms. Heard, and what is depicted in this picture? Please tell the jury.

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MS. HEARD: Johnny passed out on the island where we were vacationing. He had had a bit of a stint of sobriety right before this, and it started to change with his friend Paul Bettany, and-

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MS. HEARD: Yeah.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now I'm going to ask you --

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, can you bring up Defendant's Exhibit 1095.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: We talked about March 2013 yesterday, and I just wanted to bring this up quickly.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this picture?

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MS. HEARD: Yes. That was taken --

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Before you go further. Did you take this picture?

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MS. HEARD: Yes, I did.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I would like to move the admission of Defendant's 1095.

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MS. VASQUEZ: No objection, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: All right. 1095 in evidence. You may publish.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, Amber, will you, please, tell the jury where you took this and when you took this.

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MS. HEARD: This was after a several-day bender, you know, a binge of Johnny's. The 22nd of March, which we talked about yesterday, about he tried to burn a painting. He -- and was accusing me of having affairs with a musician, my ex-partner. And he was on these, like, you know, a drug binge, where I saw him not -- not eating, little to no sleep, and he would just use cocaine and drink all day long.

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MS. HEARD: That would go for a period of time, and I then a major blowup, and then he would get sick and pass out and feel really awful, and often, including this time, would start a period of sobriety after that

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, I'm going to take you to mid July 2013, the Tokyo press tour for Lone Ranger.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you, please, tell the jury about that particular trip and the events relating to Mr. Depp?

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MS. HEARD: Sure. He was promoting Lone Ranger, and I had just met his kids at the premiere in Los Angeles shortly before this tour started. They found out about me -

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, I'm going to just ask you not to go through that.

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MS. HEARD: Sure.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Just take us to Tokyo, please.

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MS. HEARD: So I believe we went from that stop to Tokyo with the kids. And he had had difficulty with drinking in front of them, he was trying to hide it, and, yes, he was dealing with some stress, some stress around his career. I didn't have a lot of details, but he was drinking at the restaurant and the kids were kind of, you know, noticing but not really sure what to make of it.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Calls for ' ,11 speculation and hearsay.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: She didn't say what they said.

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THE COURT: I'll sustain as to the last part of the answer.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue, but don't say what they said, okay, the kids said.

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MS. HEARD: Anyway, Johnny became upset with me for judging him. He would- he was, you know-I couldn't - it was like I couldn't win. If I didn't do anything, if I didn't say anything to him about the drinking, if I didn't acknowledge it, it got worse. If I did acknowledge it, it was my fault, and I was nagging. I get it, you know, I wouldn't like to be told what to do either, so, but it made him really angry and the kids were on this press tour, and I was just concerned about them. I was concerned about them hearing us. Johnny screamed at me in the hotel room, and all I could think were the kids were in an adjoining room. What if they could hear us? You know, I had just met them, and I didn't want them to think poorly of me and hate me, not knowing what was going on, you know, in our -- behind closed doors. I remember it was name-calling, and he eventually passed out.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall what names he called you? Do you recall what he said?

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MS. HEARD: I heard, this time, nagging bitch, nagging bitch, all the time. Called me a cunt. that when we touched back down, he'd get rid of me and I'd go back to -- he said some disgusting He even said that he made a mistake with me and things to me. I don't know if I need to repeat it.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, can you bring up Defendant's Exhibit 1090.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: You indicated, I think, that he passed out at the end of that.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you take this picture?

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MS. HEARD: I did.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I would like to move the admission of Defendant's Exhibit 1090.

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MS. VASQUEZ: No objection, Your Honor, thank you.

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THE COURT: Okay. 1090 in evidence. You can publish.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And where was Mr. Depp when you took this picture?

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MS. HEARD: He was passed out with his head on the table in the hotel room, in our hotel room, not the kids' hotel room, in Tokyo, on that press tour.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. I'm going to take you to August 2013. What, if any, discussions did you start having with Mr. Depp about moving in with him?

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MS. HEARD: Well, after -- you know, after this, I was getting close to his kids and he had a stint of sobriety shortly after that, and it felt really good again. And shortly after that, he started suggesting that I let him rent my apartment for the vultures, that's what he called the press, and he said now that we were, like, a known couple, now that it was out in the press, that my apartment wasn't, like, safe, effectively, for me. You know, I had a modest apartment in Los Angeles. And so, he started saying I needed to have security on me or it would bring out the neighboring -- the neighboring houses because of the vultures. It was a conversation, and then that conversation evolved into that I should move in with him.

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MS. HEARD: You know, he always wanted me to go with his security guards, wanted me to have his credit card. Obviously, I wouldn't accept that. But the conversation about moving in became, you know, hard to resist because I was increasingly becoming a part of his life. And, also, loving his -- loving his family and feeling like, you know, more stability would mean more stability with him and his struggles with drug and alcohol abuse -- use. And I thought I would minimize some of the jealousy and insecurity that he had. It was hard for me to work, justify working. Every audition, every meeting, every script I got was a negotiation or a fight. I had to justify it, like, as if I was saying, hey, let's have an open relationship, you know. And I thought that would be minimized if I could make him feel more secure by, you know, if we lived together, certainly there would be more security, right?

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MS. HEARD: And that was my reasoning.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So you talked about filming and scripts and things. What, if anything, did you do differently in terms of pursuing your acting career?

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MS. HEARD: Well, I've always -- I've always been really -- I've always been really independent, you know, and I never imagined not working. I've worked from the earliest time I can imagine. I come from, you know, parents who worked until they literally couldn't anymore. I never, never imagined myself having to explain my job or justify my job. But I did, you know, and I am independent and I see myself as independent and strong-willed, and I had to bargain. Every time I'd get a script, it would be, you know, I thought you weren't taking another job? I'd always say, are you kidding me? That's crazy. I have to work. I'm supporting my family. When I moved out to LA, I'd get a check for, you know, a gig, $600 or something. I'd save half for me, send half to my family.

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MS. HEARD: You know, I kept having to justify taking work by saying I'm supporting my parents, you know, I'm supporting my sister, I'm supporting my family. I have to work. And he would say, you don't have to work, kid, let me take care of you. My woman doesn't have to work. And that sounds really sweet and really romantic in some way, but it became a real fight. You know, every time I got a script, it was what kind of -- you know, how I was dressing, what kind of behavior I would have. Did I have a sex scene? And then I started saying, no, I won't take the sex scenes or, you know, I'll take the part where I don't play, you know, that kind of character or - then I started minimizing the kind of kissing scenes that I had. And eventually, I had to change the wardrobe that I could have in the movie. I couldn't have a - couldn't have a sex scene. But that all was, you know, it didn't happen all at once, of course. It O was little thing after a little thing after a little thing.

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MS. HEARD: And eventually, I found myself pushing as many scripts off my desk as I could, picking one that had minimum makeup, dressed as conservative as possible, finding ways to minimize the scenes I had where I had a romantic involvement of any kind. It was just - it was a constant battle and negotiation.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So let me take you back.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you -- as a result of your discussions with Mr. Depp about moving in, did there come a time that you did move in with him?

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MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Leading.

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THE COURT: Overruled.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

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MS. HEARD: Yes.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Let me ask you this: You have talked about penthouse, we've heard a little bit about penthouse apartments and Sweetzer. Could you just explain to the jury the different places that Mr. Depp had in Los Angeles and what they were called, just so we have some context here when you're going through all this?

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MS. HEARD: It's a little confusing, I imagine. He had about, I think, four or five mansions in this beautiful, like, you know, border of Beverly Hills and West Hollywood, and they were all on a cul-de-sac. And we called it "Sweetzer" because that was the name of the street, and there are five houses, I think five houses, it could be four, all, you know, effectively, he had the whole street. Then he had about five penthouses downtown on the same floor of the Eastern Columbia Building, which you've heard about, the ECB. And Sweetzer was, you know, Johnny's kingdom. One of those houses was, like, a whole house was his man cave, it was a studio, and it was where he did music and hung out. And we spent some time in there. But that was, effectively, Johnny's, you know, place.

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MS. HEARD: And then there was the downtown places. And they were, effectively, empty, save for some furniture and one of Johnny's friends, Isaac, who you met, and he lived there, at some point, before Johnny and I eventually decided to move in together.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Let me just stop you there. I just want to make sure we're clear. Are we talking I about the penthouses or are we talking about Sweetzer?

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MS. HEARD: Isaac lived in the penthouses. The rest of them were about - pretty much empty. And my best friend, who I was very, very, very, very close to, went through a breakup and he very kindly insisted on moving her into this penthouse.

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MS. HEARD: 121 And, of course, she said no for the first few times, but he insisted and said they were empty and he would love to have her move down there. And he very kindly moved my best friend downtown.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Is that Rocky?

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MS. HEARD: Yes, Rocky Pennington. But the problem is, it's, like, 30, 45 minutes from West Hollywood, where my place was, which we called "Orange" at the time.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So when did you move in to the penthouses?

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MS. HEARD: Shortly after he moved Rocky, my best friend, into the penthouse. So she was in one of these emptyish apartments. And somewhere around that time I -- I think it took me some time, actually. But after that, I eventually agreed to move in with him and give up my place. Although, that made me pretty nervous, to be honest. But we were in this relationship that was very serious and we were constantly traveling, also was another part of it.

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MS. HEARD: If we were in LA for a matter of days or weeks, I'd go do a job, he'd go do a job, I'd come back for a photo shoot or red carpet, go on a location, go visit him on a location. There was an incredible amount of travel movement, so we weren't living, again, living the day-to-day that you might normally with a partner, you know, where you have a home and you move in together and you have one home. We didn't have that, it was --

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MS. HEARD: Very difficult.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to take you to September of 2013.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What were you filming at that time? London Fields?

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MS. HEARD: Yes, that's right.

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MS. HEARD: I was filming London Fields. I'd just started.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did there become a time when you became engaged to Mr. Depp?

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MS. HEARD: Well, yeah, it was difficult because that role was, like, a very difficult role. I mean, every time -- every scene that involved sexuality or romance was, like, I'd look at that on the page and, you know, I'd feel my gut tighten because I knew it was going to be an issue. But Johnny dropped me off. He -- I gave him the script. I sent him a picture of what I was wearing, my wardrobe fittings, I sent him everything. I shared his script -- my script with his team. And the fighting eventually kind of minimized. It was clear I was going to do this job and I told myself I had to do this job. And Johnny had to go to London, I think, for some preproduction stuff for a movie he was going to do a smaller part in, I think. It was called -- I think this was Into the Woods, is my best guess.

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MS. HEARD: So he dropped me off in London. And when he dropped me off in London, we had a few days at this hotel that we first, like, consummated our relationship in. You know, it was when we were on the London press tour and our relationship developed; that was the same hotel, we were in the same room, which was -- Johnny liked to be in the same room. And it was really sweet. He got down on one knee and said, "I want you to be my girl, be my girl forever, my woman, my girl. I want you to be the rest of my life. Say yes to me." He said he wanted to spend every -- every day-- he promised me that every day, when I woke up, that I would wake up and he would make me smile, at least once, and that would be his goal. And, you know, I looked into his eyes and I saw my future, hope, you know, like blind hope, so in love. So it was one of the most -- I can't describe that kind of joy, you know. Thought, you know, if we were married, then this is real.

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MS. HEARD: This is real. This isn't a thing of--this isn't chaotic. This will change. You know, I had so much hope in that moment. And I just said to him, over and over again, "Are you serious? Are you serious? Are you sure," because he didn't have a ring. So I just thought, was this an impulse thing? You know, my experience, Johnny could be very impulsive. And he said, over and over again, "Be my woman forever. I want you to be my wife, my wife, my wife." I, of course, cried and we had a wonderful evening, and I still -- he left shortly And I felt like the luckiest woman in the world.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So while you were filming London Fields and Johnny had gone back to LA, what, if any, issues did you have with him on fraternizing with cast? I'm going to ask --

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, can you pull up Defendant's Exhibit 188, please.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, I'm going to object on hearsay.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I'm going to -- let's pull up 188A. I've redacted everything but what Mr. Depp says.

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THE COURT: Okay. Let me just take a look at 188A.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: That's admission against interest. Do you have that? You don't have it? Give that a minute.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: While they're working on that, can you O tell us what transpired between you and Mr. Depp when you wanted to do something with a cast member?

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MS. HEARD: So, as I said, he came to London for his own work and, also, dropped me -- he dropped me off in London, where I had to be for a few months to film this movie. And he asked me to marry him. He brought my best friends and my dad out. They left. And shortly after they left, my co-star, one of my co-stars, invited me to go to a concert with him and some of the cast to kind of break the ice, I'd be working with them for the next few months. And I had already, you know, I

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MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Don't tell us what the co-star said. Just tell us what your communication was with Mr. Depp?

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MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay. Her communications are hearsay.

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THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm not sure I understand.

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THE COURT: If you want to approach, that's fine.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

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MS. VASQUEZ: She's going to talk about what she said and asking for permission. That's hearsay.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: She's on the stand. It's not an out-of-court statement.

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THE COURT: She's testifying to an out-of-court statement.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Correct.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: She's on the stand. That's not hearsay, Your Honor, what she communicated.

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THE COURT: What she said out of court could be considered hearsay. But just -- but I'm not sure what the statement is that's coming in or what she's going to say.

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MS. VASQUEZ: She asked for permission I to go to -- she asked Mr. Depp for permission. You know, she wants to be able to go to a concert with her co-star.

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THE COURT: That's not going to be in evidence. What's the next one coming in? Is she about to testify to? I don't know. What's

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Her communication with Mr. Depp and Mr. Depp tell her he doesn't want her to go.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Well, Mr. Depp's statement is not hearsay, but her communication saying she's asking for permission, that's an out-of-court statement.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: She's on the stand, Your Honor. That's not hearsay. She can ask IO about it. She's subject to cross-examination.

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THE COURT: Yeah, she is subject to

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[SECTION HEADER]: Cross-examination, but even what she said out of

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MS. VASQUEZ: I understand that.

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THE COURT: So, we're just going to have to do them one at a time.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

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[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So please tell us what Mr. Depp said.

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MS. HEARD: He said, effectively, no; that if I accepted the invitation and went out to a concert, that the engagement would be off, that the relationship would be off. And that I was foolish, naive for thinking that people could invite me to a concert in a platonic way. I tried to say that if -

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MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: She's testifying about what Mr. Depp said. I don't understand.

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THE COURT: All right. I'll overrule that objection.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

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MS. HEARD: He said I was foolish and naive, that no one could invite me to - how could I be so dumb to think that somebody could just invite me to a concert. Why would they want to hang out with me? Obviously, it was because they wanted And I apologized. That whole evening, I think for hours, I spent on the phone with him, texting, calling, we're talking, hanging up, he'd hang up on me, be upset, and then send me cryptic messages about my foolishness. And, you know, I'm already doing a movie where I play this, you know, character when I -- you know, where I was -- like I read the script and I thought this character was empowered sexually. By the time I got Johnny's feedback on it, I had been convinced that, actually, I was just being used. That I was just being used.

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MS. HEARD: It was clear that that was all I had to offer, and I was too foolish to see it.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, I'm just going to stop you right there because I would like you to take a look at Defendant's exhibit 188A.

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MS. HEARD: Uh-huh.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Is that in front of you?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this portion of the text chain between you and Mr. Depp?

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MS. HEARD: Yes, I do.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And this is on September 9, 2013?

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MS. HEARD: Yes, it is.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And are these statements Mr. Depp made to you during that evening that you just described to the jury?

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MS. HEARD: Yes.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I'm going to move the admission of Defendant's 188A.

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THE COURT: Any objection?

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MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

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THE COURT: 188A in evidence as redacted.

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THE COURT: Do I have that redaction or is that something you need to give me?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I think we're going to need to give it to you in hard copy. Thank you, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: You can publish it.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And if I can draw your attention to it, he first says, "I don't want to make anything an issue, baby, but I've literally been on the ground just 14 fucking hours from leaving your side."

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

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MS. HEARD: Yes.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And then he says, "You know what I want, who I am and where I want to go with us. You know very well what type of fucking man I am and yet you lay a gauntlet before me that you know is the very species of danger that will always attract me into a very tempting test. What's behind that door? Almost impossible to" -- he meant not take you on.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: "Do you want me to roll the dice? This sounds more like an aggravated ultimatum than soft words that can help us make both feel better. Don't test me, please."

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did he tell you that?

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MS. HEARD: Yes, he did.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What did you understand that to mean?

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MS. HEARD: It was clear. It was a threat. A threat that if I wanted to be -

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MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Speculation.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I think she can say what she understood it to mean.

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THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: All right.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's move on, then, to the filming of Mortdecai with Mr. Bettany in October/November 2013.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Where did that take place?

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MS. HEARD: In London.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. What, if any, involvement did you have? Were you there for any part of that filming?

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MS. HEARD: Part of it. I happened to be in London already, for the film I was just telling you about, and Johnny came to London shortly after to film his own movies. He did the smaller, I think y it was a smaller role, in Into the Words and then he was filming Mortdecai after that. So after I finished my movie, I moved in with him, into his house in London, a rented house in London.

192 27:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And describe your experiences during that time period, with Mr. Depp. There were days when he wouldn't come home or they couldn't get him up out of - on set. He'd be asleep in his trailer, sleeping whatever he'd done the night before off. I remember he missed a few days of work that way. It struck me because, in my experience, in our job, you don't miss work. It doesn't matter how sick you are. You go. You know, it's millions of dollars every single day they're filming.

193 28:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: And I had not experienced someone who could, effectively, just control the set like that, I mean, to that extent. And one day he didn't come home, and I was worried sick. I found out that he was in a hotel room with Paul Bettany.

194 28:38

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay. ,2

195 28:50

MS. HEARD: Okay.

196 28:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: Move forward.

197 28:52

MS. HEARD: When he was sent home, they had to ls carry him home.

198 28:54

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

199 28:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you see this?

200 28:56

MS. HEARD: I watched it.

201 28:59

THE COURT: Go ahead.

202 29:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Please continue.

203 29:01

MS. HEARD: I watched actually I was shocked that he could do it One of the security guards carried Johnny like a baby into the house And I looked at that I mean his boots were hanging over the security guard's arm who had to negotiate getting through the doorway carrying Johnny like this And I thought I watched this his assistants and the other security guards shaking their head you know just shaking their head acknowledging this how bad it is And I remember thinking this has got to be it Like this has got to change This is And he was, understandably, very, very sick for at least two days, is my recollection. And in that two days, I had a lot of conversations with his team, I won't say what they were. But I felt, at that juncture, very encouraged that everybody and myself were on the same page. And I felt encouraged that we were in a new chapter. That Johnny had finally hit rock bottom and finally he felt like changing for good. And I felt really, you know, supported by these conversations I was having with people that he was close to, that he trusted.

204 30:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: November 2013, did you have any contact with Lily-Rose that led to any discussions with Mr. Depp?

205 30:46

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Leading.

206 30:46

THE COURT: Sustained.

207 30:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, connection, communications, did you have with Lily-Rose in November 2013?

208 30:53

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection calls for hearsay Leading.

209 30:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm asking what her connection was. I didn't ask what she said.

210 30:59

THE COURT: I'm going to sustain the objection.

211 31:01

THE COURT: If you want to move on.

212 31:03
213 31:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: In November 2013, what, if any, interaction did you have with Lily-Rose, without saying anything she said?

214 31:13

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

215 31:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: It's interaction, Your Honor. I'm not asking for what she said.

216 31:20

THE COURT: If you can lay a foundation.

217 31:23
218 31:25

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did there come a time in November 2013 that you saw Lily-Rose?

219 31:30

MS. HEARD: Yes. They came to stay with us for some time in the winter. Yeah, around November, I believe, 2013.

220 31:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: When you said "they," who are you referring to?

221 31:40

MS. HEARD: Johnny's kids, Jack and Lily-Rose.

222 31:42

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And was there a particular incident that led to disagreement with Mr. Depp?

223 31:51

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Leading.

224 31:53

THE COURT: Sustained.

225 31:54

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, interaction did you have with Lily-Rose that led to an argument with Mr. Depp?

226 32:00

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Leading.

227 32:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any.

228 32:05

THE COURT: If you could approach.

229

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230 32:11

THE COURT: I understand what, if any, and I get that, but it's all the extra that you're putting in there. It's a little ...

231 32:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm trying to give context to move along.

232 32:22

THE COURT: I know. I understand that. I appreciate that. But I have to sustain the objection based on that, okay?

233 32:27

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you.

234

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235

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

236 32:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have an argument with Mr. Depp relating to Lily-Rose in November 2013?

237 32:38

MS. HEARD: Yes.

238 32:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you please describe that?

239 32:42

MS. HEARD: Well, he -- I -- I didn't -- I was -- I -- I was -- you know, these kids were -- I found them to be these beautiful, wildly intelligent little weirdoes, in the best way. You know, they were -- I was falling in love with them and, you know, they were in my life at that time, a short amount of time, but I loved it, and I felt -- I started to feel very protective and, you know, Johnny's sobriety meant that he was there and then he wasn't. The nature of our lives, with the travel and work, meant he was there and then he wasn't.

240 33:30

MS. HEARD: And Lily-Rose, at some point, had a crush I on a, you know --

241 33:35

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay. Lack of foundation.

242 33:38

THE COURT: I'll overrule.

243 33:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

244 33:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

245 33:42

MS. HEARD: This argument happened because Johnny was - I didn't agree that this gentleman, it was a famous musician, over the age of 18, spent the night at the house, and I felt protective over Lily-Rose and concerned. And, naturally, they're not- they were not my children. It's not my place. And I understand that. I know it's a sensitive subject. So I understand why Johnny got so upset with me. But that and the introduction of the weed with his daughter. She was so young. I just felt protective.

246 34:31

MS. HEARD: Again, it's not my place, I understand that. And I made him really angry by weighing in on that.

247 34:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Did there come a time that there was a family engagement gathering?

248 34:51

MS. HEARD: Well, we celebrated Thanksgiving out in London, the kids were there. There was a stint of sobriety following how sick he got on set with Paul Bettany after one of his drug binges, and he kind of just came alive again. He even, like, played a prank on me about having, like, relapsed when he hadn't relapsed. I started to kind of feel that with the kids being around. I kind of thought -- I did think that maybe this was it. We were on a good path, meaning to sobriety. That this was it. And our life was peaceful for a minute. You know, it was -- it went back to being wonderful. There were these moments that it just felt so wonderful.

249 35:53

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Nonresponsive.

250 35:56

THE COURT: All right. I'll sustain the objection.

251 35:59
252 36:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: Take us to the engagement. There was this engagement party, correct?

253 36:04

MS. HEARD: Then, yes, come Christmas of 2013, Johnny had rented this beautiful mansion in Malibu on the beach. It was gorgeous. And he brought my family out and his family was out, obviously, in LA, and we stayed in this rented mansion and we're y all together for the holidays, and it went -- one evening, we were going to his mother's house, his mother, who you've heard about, was old -- older and sick, but at home being cared for, and he--

254 36:48

MS. HEARD: One evening, we're going to have dinner, Christmas dinner there with her, around the time of her I 7 birthday as well. And my best friend said --

255 36:52

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

256 36:56

MS. HEARD: Other.

257 37:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: It wasn't put for the I truth of the matter.

258 37:01

MS. BREDEHOFT: But go ahead. Go past that. What did you do?

259 37:04

MS. HEARD: We went to Betty Sue's house, his mother's house, and Johnny proposed in front of our families in this big, you know, he surprised me, got down on one knee, and, you know, I cried and hugged my mother and hugged his mother, and he gave me this enormous diamond ring. And it was a nice time.

260 37:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. I'm going to take you into January, February, 2014, You had a, -- you employed a woman named Kate James; is that correct?

261 37:40

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Leading.

262 37:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, relationship did you have with Kate James?

263 37:51

MS. HEARD: She was my assistant at the time. I hired her sometime in 2012 and had as minimal contact with her as I possibly could.

264 38:06

MS. BREDEHOFT: And why is that?

265 38:19

MS. HEARD: She was difficult, troubled, and inconsistent. She drank on the job and stuff like I that. Her behavior was -

266 38:25

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Relevance.

267 38:26

MS. HEARD: Horrible. its

268 38:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: She's already testified. Kate James has testified. I think biased --

269

THE COURT: All right. I'll allow that. Go ahead.

270 38:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you. Okay. Please describe for the jury what your -- what job responsibilities Kate had and how you communicated with her and kind of how that worked.

271 38:52

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Compound.

272 38:54

THE COURT: Overrule.

273 38:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

274 38:59

MS. HEARD: Minimal person-to-person interaction because I was hardly ever in LA. If I was, I was there for a few days at a time, and Johnny and I kind of lived in this interior bubble, anyway, when we were together. But we would send emails, texts, and voice -- a lot of voice memos, voice notes. And I found that if I said, Kate, you know, you left the car running with your doors open and your kids in the car on the street.

275 39:16

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

276 39:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: She's not testifying -- she's testifying about context.

277 39:39

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

278 39:39

THE COURT: Next question.

279 39:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right.

280 39:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to take a look at g g y Defendant's Exhibit 209.

281 39:51

MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, I'm going to object on hearsay grounds.

282 39:55

THE COURT: All right.

283 39:58

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to lay a foundation, Your Honor.

284 40:02

MS. VASQUEZ: It's still hearsay. May we approach?

285 40:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: May I lay the foundation first?

286 40:07

THE COURT: Go ahead. Yes.

287 40:09

MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Heard, did you communicate with Kate James by email in the ordinary course of your business?

288 40:16

MS. HEARD: Yes, I did

289 40:17

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And I'm going to ask you to take a look at Defendant's 209.

290 40:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Is this a communication that was between you and Kate James that was in the ordinary course of business with her as an employee?

291 40:32

MS. HEARD: Yes, it is.

292 40:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I'm going to move the admission of Defendant's Exhibit 209.

293 40:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: ,5 Honor. Business records exception.

294 40:38

MS. VASQUEZ: Still hearsay, Your

295 40:40

THE COURT: The business record exception gets the business record in, but if there's hearsay involved inside the business record, there's still objection to hearsay.

296 40:49

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, the I; business records exception, I mean, I don't -- I don't agree. I think that's the point --

297 40:58

THE COURT: If you want to approach.

298

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299 41:08

THE COURT: Business records exception -- number one, I'm not sure emails are business records. Number two, even if you get business records in, they come in, but if there's hearsay in those business records, that hearsay doesn't come in.

300 41:17

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor --

301 41:27

THE COURT: But if you want to show me y something different that says hearsay in every business record comes in, please, show that to me.

302 41:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: The exception, one of the exceptions to the hearsay rule is the business records exception. And records of regularly conducted activity. And it says -- I'm on 2:803(6)(A), the record was made at or near the time of the acts, events, calculations or conditions. B, the record was made and kept in the course of a regularly conducted activity of a business, organization, occupation --

303 41:46

THE COURT: Keeping the record with a regular practice of that activity. This is an email. That's why it doesn't fit with the business record.

304 41:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: That's how she communicated with her. She was her employee.

305 42:05

THE COURT: For custodian. Business records are made for custodian. Invoices, accounting, not people's hearsay emails back and forth. Neither the source of information nor the method or circumstances of preparation indicate a lack of trustworthiness.

306 42:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: Why would this not be --

307 42:24

THE COURT: It's not a business record.

308 42:33

THE COURT: Sustain the objection.

309 42:42

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

310

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311

[Section Header]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

312 42:52

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, communications did you have with Kate James about your issues with Mr. Depp?

313 43:00

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

314 43:02

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, Ms. James has testified.

315 43:03

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

316 43:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. We can take that down, Michelle.

317 43:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: In the February -- I'm going to jump to February/March 2016. What, if any, communications did you have with Mr. Depp about a prenup?

318 43:24

MS. HEARD: Well, after the - after the engagement, but before the engagement party, I started to - I started to feel like it would make - you know, I know that he earned significantly more than me, successful actor. I wanted to eliminate any doubt in his mind and in other people's mind. So I brought it up to him and brought it up to my therapist.

319 43:55

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

320 43:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: She's just saying that she brought it up to her therapist. She's not saying what she said.

321 44:01

MS. BREDEHOFT: But, please, focus on Mr. Depp, okay?

322 44:03

MS. HEARD: Of course. Johnny said he would tear it up if I - he said if you ever brought one up to me or if I ever saw one, got my hands on it, I'd tear it up. The only way out of this is death. The only way out of this is death.

323 44:21

MS. HEARD: And I - I thought it - I thought it would, like - I didn't care either way, but I did feel that it would eliminate suspicion or doubt and it would make things easier. And I told him over and over again, you know, are you sure? Are I you sure? Maybe we should do this. And he -- one time, he said to me, he was, like, kid, are you already thinking of how you're getting out of this? Are you already planning on getting out of this, kid? You're already planning on leaving?

324 45:02

MS. HEARD: It was -- that was the same -- it was around the same time as the moving in together conversation. It was -- he accused me of having one foot out. And they kind of were happening around the same time. You know, I still had my apartment and we're engaged now. He was asking me to redecorate Sweetzer, his main house, and kind of move in to the ECB building downtown, where my best friend was living at this time, while the decorations and the remodeling had been done on Sweetzer.

325 45:42

MS. HEARD: So these conversations were kind of , happening about how to build our future together and how we were going to move forward together.

326 45:48

MS. HEARD: And I-- you know, I would have forgotten about the extent that we had those conversations early on in the engagement if it hadn't been for my therapist's notes.

327 46:02

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry, if it hadn't been for what?

328 46:03

MS. HEARD: If it hadn't been for my therapist's notes, taken at the time when I was talking with her about this and my conversations with her.

329 46:06

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

330 46:09

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection. ,7

331 46:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: We'll move on.

332 46:14

THE COURT: Okay.

333 46:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's take it to March of 2014. po Did there come a time there was an engagement party?

334 46:21

MS. HEARD: Yes, so -- yeah, it was March 2014.

335 46:25

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please describe for the jury.

336 46:28

MS. HEARD: We had an engagement party and we decided that when we did get married, we'd have a small wedding, you know, something intimate. But, you know, our lives were kind of big. His life was extremely big. And we needed to incorporate -- we wanted to have a bigger engagement party than a wedding, you know, and kind of get our guests in, our family, our friends, and have a big -- a big event of it as opposed to making the wedding something that was big. And, you know, so we kind of put it on the engagement party and had a bunch of people, a lot of friends, business acquaintances, a lot of family. I had all of my family friends and my childhood friends come out for it. I even invited my therapist. It was, you know, a big event.

337 47:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And describe what took place at the engagement party.

338 47:26

MS. HEARD: Well, we walk in together and we took some pictures and said a few hellos and then Johnny disappeared upstairs in -- I guess it's, like, a coat room or something. It's in a big, abandoned building that was rented out for events. And he disappeared upstairs, almost the entire party, I would say. He kind of came down at the end when we were leaving and came down once because he was, at the time, sharing drugs with my dad.

339 47:59

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Speculation. Lack of foundation.

340 48:01

THE COURT: Lay the foundation.

341 48:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: How do you know he was sharing drugs with your dad?

342 48:06

MS. HEARD: I was there. I watched it.

343 48:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

344 48:14

MS. HEARD: My dad, at the time, was on the same - was addicted to the same thing Johnny was, and, so, my dad had - either my dad ran out or Johnny ran out, but there was a -you know, they needed more, of course, and had to leave the party- my dad actually left with Johnny's security to go get more drugs from -

345 48:46

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Calls for speculation.

346 48:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: How do you know that?

347 48:50

MS. HEARD: They told me.

348 48:51

MS. VASQUEZ: Hearsay.

349 48:52

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

350 48:53
351 48:53

MS. HEARD: And they left to go whatever, and they came back with drugs and everything was okay, in terms of the withdrawal symptoms. I don't know what you call it at that point.

352 49:06

MS. HEARD: But, he still stayed upstairs and --

353 49:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: Are you referring to Mr. Depp?

354 49:13

MS. HEARD: Yes, I am.

355 49:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Please continue.

356 49:15

MS. HEARD: And so, shortly after that, I tried to get Johnny to come downstairs, and he just snapped at me, just verbally. Told me to shut the fuck up. And I remember talking to my mom about the irony of it.

357 49:35
358 49:35

MS. HEARD: We were at an engagement party. But that was a pretty -- that was pretty much it for the engagement party. And I went downstairs and entertained guests and smiled and took pictures and put on a face and, you know, went about my evening.

359 49:52

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Take you to May 2014, the Met Gala. Can you, please, tell the jury what the Met Gala is and what's involved in that?

360 49:57

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Compound.

361 50:03

THE COURT: Overruled.

362 50:08

MS. HEARD: Met Gala is a big event, annual event, celebrity event in New York. It's a fashion evening, but it's a just a major red carpet event. And you have to be invited and it's kind of a And we were invited that year, and I -- I had already gone for the previous year, too, and this year we were going to go together. And at some point, in the evening, we're sitting across the table and Johnny starts asking me about this woman, he thought I was looking at this woman in a sexual way. And I kind of turned it around on him and said --

363 50:35

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.15

364 51:02

THE COURT: All right.

365 51:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: It's context, Your Honor. This is context.

366 51:05

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

367 51:06
368 51:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: Just say what Mr. Depp said, then. I guess you can't tell us what you said to him.

369 51:14

MS. HEARD: Okay. He was accusing me of flirting, and that's how the argument started. I don't recall what other accusations I was fielding at that moment, but, typically, in my experience with him, it wasn't just one. He would make a point and then he would go on to a different accusation.

370 51:35

MS. HEARD: But I remember what started it is this accusation that I had been flirting at this event.

371 51:43

MS. HEARD: We get back to the hotel room, and Johnny shoves me and kind of grabs me by the collarbone area, not really my neck, but top of my neck - top of my- above my collarbone, below my neck.

372 52:02

MS. HEARD: I think, at that point, when we were still in the living room, I shoved him back. But I can't - I don't really recall too many specifics. I remember he threw a bottle at me. It missed me but it broke the chandelier. And, at some point, I remember, maybe this was the shove that I was talking about, but at some point, Johnny and I are in a struggle in the living room, and he kind of, like, shoves me down on the sofa; I get up and I'm trying to get him off of me. He's just stronger than me. I don't know how else to describe it. At some point, he just whacks me in the face. And I had not, at the time, been - like, I didn't - I think that was the first time I was, like, is this a broken nose? At the time, I was unsure what that feeling was, but I suspected I had a broken nose. And other than that, I was relatively unscathed. But I remember my nose being swollen, discolored, red, and I took a picture of my face at some point. I made a joke about it to my friend, about how bad I looked compared to -

373 52:42

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

374 53:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: It wasn't offered to prove the truth of the matter, Your Honor.

375 53:23

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

376 53:25
377 53:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: Just don't say what you told a friend, okay?

378 53:30

MS. HEARD: Okay.

379 53:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's take you to The Adderall Diaries.

380 53:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: When did you start filming The Adderall Diaries?

381 53:45

MS. HEARD: I believe May. I filmed another movie in New York, March, April -- April, May, I went straight from that movie to another movie. An independent film with James Franco. The one I had previously shot was with Christopher Walken.

382 54:07

MS. HEARD: That's right. Okay. So I went from one to the other, and saw Johnny in these, you know, in between, like if I got a long weekend or, you know, I'd fly home to be with him and fly back. It was kind of like that.

383 54:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Fly back from where? Where were you filming those?

384 54:25

MS. HEARD: In New York.

385 54:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: Where was Mr. Depp at that time?

386 54:30

MS. HEARD: Johnny was in LA, at the time, and then eventually went on location for his movie, Black Mass, in Boston.

387 54:38

MS. BREDEHOFT: So you were in New York and Mr. Depp was in Boston, at some point?

388 54:42

MS. HEARD: Eventually. By May, 2014. That's it.

389 54:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, discussions or arguments did you have with Mr. Depp relating to James Franco in that time frame of May 2014?

390 55:05

MS. HEARD: It's a nightmare. I wanted to do this independent film. I liked the story, I liked the character. I, you know, told him I'm not going to wear makeup in the thing.

391 55:29

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

392 55:30

MS. BREDEHOFT: Apparently --

393 55:33

THE COURT: Ms. Bredehoft, if we could approach, please.

394

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

395

THE COURT: I don't need those side comments.

396

MS. BREDEHOFT: I apologize for that. I'm just so baffled. I don't know why --

397

THE COURT: If there's a prior statement that she made, it's hearsay. Unless you have an exception for it. Context is not an exception.

398

MS. BREDEHOFT: State of mind. Present tense --

399

THE COURT: No, those are not exceptions for I wasn't going to wear makeup.

400

MS. BREDEHOFT: I mean, it's context as well, Your Honor.

401

THE COURT: Context is not an exception.

402

MS. BREDEHOFT: It's not offered for the truth of the matter.

403

THE COURT: Then what's it offered for?

404

MS. BREDEHOFT: Offered to show -- well, it doesn't matter whether she's wearing makeup or not, Your Honor. That's not --

405

THE COURT: Then it's not relevant.

406

MS. BREDEHOFT: But it's leading up to the argument. It's still context, Your Honor.

407

THE COURT: Context-- Ms. Bredehoft, prior statement is hearsay unless there's an exception. Context is not an exception to that. Or if it's not offered for the truth of the matter, what is it offered for?

408

MS. BREDEHOFT: It's offered for context.

409

THE COURT: That's not -- okay, I'll sustain the objection.

410

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

411

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412

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

413 56:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, tell the jury what Mr. Depp said.

414 56:54

MS. HEARD: He was mad at me for taking the job with James Franco. He hated, he did, James Franco, and was already accusing me of kind of secretly having a thing with him in my past, since we had done Pineapple Express together.

415 57:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So I'm going to take you to the Boston plane incident. We've heard about that earlier, May 24.

416 57:29

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you, please, describe, for the jury, what took place on May 24, relating to the plane incident?

417 57:40

MS. HEARD: Well, I I had spoken to Johnny, you know, he's in Boston, I'm in New York, and I spoke to him. He had already been upset with me and accused me in, like, many arguments about not telling him about scenes that I had. If I had a y kissing scene, any sort of romantic scene, and I wasn't explicit about what I was going to do, then I was accused of having withheld information and hiding it from him.

418 58:16

MS. HEARD: So I didn't want the fight, of course, I didn't want the argument, but I had to kind of eggshell, tip toe around how to tell him when I had any sort of scene like that. And I did tell him in this occasion --

419 58:33

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

420

MS. BREDEHOFT: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

421 58:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: We need to stay with what Mr. Depp said, okay?

422 58:40

MS. HEARD: Okay. So he was upset with me, but he didn't sound coherent so much on the phone. He was yelling at me about how could you? How could you tell me this? How could you tell me this when I'm filming, when I have this scene that I'm doing? How could you tell me this when I'm working?

423 59:00

MS. HEARD: Obviously, I couldn't tell him any other time because we were both filming, and I told him as soon as it was relevant. But he kept saying, how could you tell me this? How could you just tell me this? And it was like I had told him I was having an affair or something. You know, he was that angry at me. But he kind of started to sound less connected to reality as these, like, arguments would happen on the phone. This is in one day.

424 59:30

MS. HEARD: Eventually, he hangs up on me in the conversation, screaming. Screaming at me. I talked to his assistants, I won't say what they said, but I had conversations and felt encouraged that I could continue on with the plan, which was for me to get on the plane, go to Boston, pick him up, and we would go back to LA for his daughter's birthday. I was nervous because of the conversation I had had with him, and he was so upset with me on that conversation. But I figured he - I assumed he had passed out and that he would have been kind of sobered up the next day, assuming that the work would mean that he felt pressured to kind of pull it together. And I get on the plane, he sent the plane, so I assumed he's not that mad at me. He's over it. We're moving on. He sobered up. There had been a lot of talk about a sober plan, like a full detox, a full recovery, a doctor, the whole plan. You know, there were talks of that following what had happened in London. So I was feeling like, okay, well, maybe we're here. I get on the plane. It touches down and the SUV pulls up, and it sits on the tarmac for a very long time.

425 1:01:01

MS. HEARD: He knows I'm on the plane waiting for him, so I kind of started to anticipate that things weren't as I hoped, meaning that he was sober and had slept it off. And I get -- I mean, I'm sitting on the plane for a very long time waiting for him and he finally opens the door, and I see him get out of the SUV, and I can guess, by how he's moving, how he's walking, I didn't realize, at the time, I had already become really sensitive to these little changes because my life changed depending on what he was on. And he gets on the plane and I - I just knew, in every cell of my body, that something was wrong.

426 1:01:49

MS. HEARD: And he comes straight up to me, doesn't say anything to me, but is looking at me. He's got these glasses on and he takes them off in this kind of aggressive manner and sits down across from me, not in the usual spot We kind of have our places on his plane, you know, where you get used to sitting. I remember I got up and moved to accommodate him getting by so he could sit in the normal seat, as per usual. He didn't. He sat across from me.

427 1:02:19

MS. HEARD: At some point, I don't really remember the exact sequence of it, we take off, at some point he's asking me what's wrong with me? What do I have? Do I have something to tell him? Do I have something to tell him? Do you want to talk to me about your day yesterday? And then it gets - I already know that he's drunk. I already know he's using - he reeks of weed and alcohol. I mean, his breath smelled so bad and I could - I could anticipate that there was a no-win situation here. There was no me talking myself out of this or talking him down or any - you know, a lot of my arguments and my involvement in them are me trying to defuse by explaining -

428 1:02:46

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. nonresponsive.

429 1:03:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: She's telling the story, Your Honor.

430 1:03:17

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection as to the last part. Go ahead.

431 1:03:19
432 1:03:21

MS. HEARD: So he is asking me questions, and I know not to engage.

433 1:03:28

MS. HEARD: I was polite. I made sure to answer minimal amount of, you know, the minimal amount that I could. I moved slowly. I was trying to be polite but not engage because there was no win. And he kept going. Kept asking me. Eventually, it went from do you have something to tell me to you want to tell me how much you liked it? Tell me, did he slip a tongue? It got worse and worse. It just more. It went from asking me about how my kissing scene went or how the sex scene went to asking me what James Franco had done in the scene to being really explicit about my body. You know, he was talking about my-- saying really disgusting things about my body, about how I liked it, how I responded. Then he started taunting, just straight up taunting me. I know you liked it. He called me a go-getter. He called me a slut. Also, this is happening with security and his assistants on the plane.

434 1:04:45

MS. HEARD: And I remember I felt -- I don't -- I struggle to be able to tell you how embarrassed I was because he was speaking to me in front of people in this way, asking me if I liked it and if I was wet. And, you know, why I wasn't looking at him. And that was proof, I wasn't looking at him, that was proof that I was asking for it. Did I ask James to do this and this to me. And how about if he does those things to me, insert sexually explicit descriptions of what he accused me of wanting or deserving.

435 1:05:35

MS. HEARD: And I, at some point in this, get up and move to the front of the plane. And I remember getting up so slowly. I didn't want to aggravate him. I didn't want to give him any excuse to pounce on. I didn't want to upset him. I didn't want him to flip a switch and get worse. I didn't want -- I just remember very slow movements, and I slowly get up and move to the front of the plane and he starts throwing things at me. Ice cubes, utensils. He was calling me a go-getter and then an embarrassment. Talking about what an embarrassment I am. I don't know how many times I moved seats, I wish I did. I don't.

436 1:06:24

MS. HEARD: I remember moving more than once, and Johnny came to me each time. Not the other way around. He sits down in front of me, at one point, and because I'm not answering him, I was looking out of the window, and he slaps my face. And his friend is in our proximity. And I -- it didn't hurt me. It didn't hurt my face, I just felt embarrassed that he'd do that to me in front of people. It was the first time that anything like that had happened in front of somebody.

437 1:07:08

MS. HEARD: I got up to move again and he's just taunting me, having a laugh, screaming, and then just straight up mean, calling me names. And it was oscillating between those things.

438 1:07:21

MS. HEARD: And I get up, slowly again, and I just resolve to just sit, the rest of the time, up at the front of the plane.

439 1:07:30

MS. HEARD: And as I get up, he kind of kicks the swivel chair into my hip, but kind of just hits me. I look at him and he asks me, "What? What are you going to do about it?"

440 1:07:46

MS. HEARD: I just stared at him. I just stared at him and wanted him to see me. I wanted to get through to him. Didn't feel there was, like - it felt like there was a blackness in his eyes. I wanted to look at him. I wanted him to see me. It didn't even feel like him.

441 1:08:06

MS. HEARD: And as I'm walking away, slowly, trying not to be - I was being very deliberate about my movements, wasn't saying anything. I wasn't engaging. I'm walking away from him slowly, and he tells me, hurry the fuck up. Hurry up. And I just look at him one more time wanting to penetrate the monster to see the man that I love underneath that. The man I love. And he tells me to hun-y up again. And I pull my gaze away from him. I walk away from him. My back is turned to him. And I feel this boot in my back. He just kicked me in the back. I fell to the floor, I caught myself on the floor. I just felt like I was looking at the floor of the plane for, felt like, a long time. I thought to myself, I don't know what to do. I can't believe he just -- did he just kick me? No one said anything. No one did anything. It was like you could hear -- you could hear a pin drop on that plane. You could feel the tension, but no one did anything. And I just remember feeling so embarrassed.

442 1:09:40

MS. HEARD: I felt so embarrassed that he could kick me to the ground in front of people. And more embarrassing, I didn't know what to do about it. I got up and I just -- I walked to the front of the plane. I sat down, and I just looked out of the window. Jerry Judge, the security, and my g y y ! friend both kind of, under their breath, asked me, are you okay?

443 1:10:09

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

444 1:10:10

MS. HEARD: I spent a lot of time looking out of the window.

445 1:10:15

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

446 1:10:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did there come time that you tape recorded Mr. Depp on thus plane?

447 1:10:36

MS. HEARD: I want to sit here and say that I was, like - I was telling myself that I needed to leave him, but as he got worse, he demanded the oxygen tank from the flight attendant. The flight attendant, excuse me, and he continued to drink and then eventually started howling like an animal and passed out in the bathroom, with the door locked, and was howling. And I, at some point, pushed record on my phone because there was that 5 percent part of me -

448 1:11:24

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Nonresponsive.

449 1:11:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: I don't think it's nonresponsive. She's explaining to what led up to her tape recording him and why.

450 1:11:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: I mean, I can ask her.

451 1:11:34

THE COURT: All right.

452 1:11:35
453 1:11:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: Why did you tape record him?

454 1:11:40

MS. HEARD: Because I knew that Johnny wouldn't remember what he had done. I knew he would not remember-

455 1:11:47

MS. VASQUEZ: Calls for speculation.

456 1:11:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: But she can say why she did it and what she thought.

457 1:11:53

THE COURT: But !hat last part called for speculation.

458 1:11:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: You can say what -- why did you tape record?

459 1:11:59

MS. HEARD: In my experience, when Johnny was that inebriated, he would not remember what he had done.

460 1:12:06

MS. VASQUEZ: Calls for speculation.

461 1:12:09

MS. BREDEHOFT: How can that call for speculation?

462 1:12:10

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

463 1:12:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Let's go to Defendant's 221.

464 1:12:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: And I'm going to play three different parts for it.

465 1:13:06

MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, may we approach, please?

466

THE COURT: Okay.

467

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

468

MS. VASQUEZ: So I anticipate this is the Boston plane recording.

469

THE COURT: It seems like it, that's where we are.

470

MS. VASQUEZ: Yeah, so there are other voices on this recording besides Mr. Depp.

471

THE COURT: Okay.

472

MS. VASQUEZ: So I ask that those voices --

473

THE COURT: The clips you have aren't with other people's voices, correct?

474

MS. BREDEHOFT: One of them is, yes. The first two are him howling. But, Your Honor, that doesn't -- I mean, she's authenticated that she's made the recording.

475

THE COURT: Doesn't matter. Hearsay can still be involved in tapes, too. So the other people on there, you're trying to get their statements in, that would be hearsay.

476

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm not offering that.

477

THE COURT: Okay.

478

MS. BREDEHOFT: For the truth of the matter.

479

THE COURT: What do they say?

480

MS. BREDEHOFT: He says he's going to stay with this fucking idiot until he gets -- in case he gets sick. But I'm not offering it for that. I'm offering what's going on with the howling.

481

THE COURT: I'm going to sustain as to that statement.

482

MS. BREDEHOFT: Then the first two I'm offering -- ,22

483

THE COURT: The first two are just him I howling; is that right? Howling, is that what we're talking about here?

484
485

THE COURT: So just him howling? And is there's no other sounds or just her?

486

MS. BREDEHOFT: No, I don't believe so.

487

MS. BREDEHOFT: Jerry Judge is just on the third.

488

THE COURT: So you're just going to do the first two?

489

MS. VASQUEZ: That's fine, Your Honor.

490

THE COURT: So you're not going to get ! 12 the whole thing in. We're just going to call the I first one A and the second one B; is that okay? So, A is going to be?

491

MS. BREDEHOFT: Zero to one minute.

492

THE COURT: Okay. B?

493

MS. BREDEHOFT: B will be 2:50 to 3:20.

494

THE COURT: And then, after we hear these audios, why don't we wrap up for our morning break; will that be okay? Okay. Thank you.

495

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

496

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

497

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

498 1:14:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: So we're going to start with 221 and we're going to call it A, and that will be 0 through one minute.

499 1:14:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, may I approach?

500 1:14:21

THE COURT: Okay. Sure.

501

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

502 1:14:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: I think all three of O them have already been admitted into evidence and were played during Mr. Depp's examination,

503

[SECTION HEADER]: Cross-examination.

504 1:14:35

THE COURT: Do you have any of the audio? I don't remember the numbers, so you have to tell me which numbers you think they are.

505 1:14:42

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes. It's already been played, Your Honor. It was played during Mr. Depp's cross-examination.

506 1:14:49

THE COURT: Not the third one. Because they said Jerry Judge is in the third one, and I have not heard any recordings of other people.

507 1:14:57

MR. NADELHAFT: Remember during his we can check at the break.

508 1:15:04

THE COURT: Yeah, you can check. let's just do those two now. How about that?

509 1:15:11

MR. NADELHAFT: That's fine. But

510 1:15:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: We're going to start the first one with zero to 1 minute. And can you turn up the volume? There's part of it, the noise of the airplane is a little bit loud, to be able to pick up the noise.

511

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following audio clip was played.)

512

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Moaning.)

513 1:16:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: And then the second one is from 2:50 to 3:20, 30 seconds.

514

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following audio clip was played.)

515

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Moaning.)

516 1:17:21

THE COURT: 221 is in evidence. All of 221 is already in evidence?

517 1:17:25

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, may I play the third one, then, and then we can take the break?

518 1:17:28

THE COURT: Yes. You can play all of I it, if you would like.

519 1:17:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: I think that would torture the jury, if I did that, Your Honor. 9:30 to 10,just 30 seconds more.

520 1:18:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to stay with this fucking idiot in case he gets sick.

521

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following audio clip was played.)

522 1:18:12

THE COURT: All right. And you're O going to be changing gears after that, or do you have any more questions for this issue?

523 1:18:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: No, I think this would be fine for a break

524 1:18:17

THE COURT: All right. Ladies and gentlemen, let's go ahead and take our morning break, then. Just do not do any outside research, and don't discuss the case with anybody.

525

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury exited the courtroom and the following proceedings took I place.)

526 1:18:50

THE COURT: All right. Thank you. -122 And, again, ma'am, since you're still I testifying, don't discuss your testimony with anybody at this point, okay? All right. Let's just come back at -- let's make it 11 :42, all right?

527 1:19:01

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

528

COURT BAILIFF: All rise.

529

COURT BAILIFF: All rise.

530

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Recess taken from 11:26 a.m. to 11:42 a.m.)

531

COURT BAILIFF: Please be seated.

532

THE COURT: Are we ready for the jury?

533

MS. BREDEHOFT: No, may we approach? e 13

534

THE COURT: Sure.

535

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

536

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I'm going I to have a series of text messages.

537

THE COURT: Okay.

538

MS. BREDEHOFT: Emails. So I thought I would just head it off.

539

THE COURT: Sure. That's a great idea.

540

MS. BREDEHOFT: Looking at Rule 2:803.

541

THE COURT: Hearsay exception.

542

MS. BREDEHOFT: It says the following are not excluded by the hearsay rule --

543

THE COURT: Right.

544

MS. BREDEHOFT: Even though the declarant is available. And we've got admission by party-opponent.

545

THE COURT: Right. We've done that.

546

MS. BREDEHOFT: We have present sense impression.

547

THE COURT: Right. I understand. I'm very familiar.

548

MS. BREDEHOFT: I accept that, Your Honor. But -- and business records is also in the hearsay exception. I'm going to be putting a number of them And I'm going to be arguing, with each of them, that it is present sense impression and then existing state of mind. But I'm going to put them in -- I need to put them in, even if Your Honor rules against them

549

THE COURT: Anything you identify is part of the record. You can't put them into evidence. It's part of the record.

550

MS. BREDEHOFT: I understand. And I fully appreciate and respect that Your Honor has the right to rule however Your Honor wants to.

551

THE COURT: Yeah.

552

MS. BREDEHOFT: Just wanted to give you a heads-up on that.

553

THE COURT: Okay.

554

MS. BREDEHOFT: These are my two -- predominantly the two exceptions I'm relying on IO with this series. And there are some that are just spontaneous. Some of them are even almost -- they're saying --

555

THE COURT: I have to take them one at a time.

556

MS. BREDEHOFT: I appreciate that, Your Honor. I just kind of wanted to preview.

557

THE COURT: Thank you.

558

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

559
560

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

561 1:36:35

THE COURT: All right. Are we ready for the jury, then?

562 1:36:38

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes, Your Honor. Thank

563 1:37:06

THE COURT: Okay.

564 1:37:34

THE COURT: All right. Thank you. All right. Be seated.

565

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury entered the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

566 1:37:37

THE COURT: Next question.

567 1:37:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

568 1:37:42

MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, following the plane ride, what did you do once you arrived, once you landed in LA?

569 1:37:55

MS. HEARD: I called for a cab, a car to pick me up, met me at the private airport, and I left. I got straight off the plane as soon as we touched down. Johnny had been saying some - what he would do to me once we got on the ground, and I didn't know how long the cycle would last, so I wanted to just get out of there. And I went to a hotel and called my friends to join me, which was my coping strategy at the time.

570 1:38:29

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. I'm going to ask you to take a •3 look at Defendant's 204.

571 1:38:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: If you can bring that up.

572 1:38:44

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you reach out to --

573

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay and leading.

574 1:38:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I would direct Your Honor's attention to the first one in blue.

575 1:38:54

THE COURT: Okay.

576 1:38:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: And the third one in blue. And I would say present sense impression and the state, state of mind at that time.

577

THE COURT: All right. If you want to approach.

578
579

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

580

THE COURT: All right. So, I'm going to overrule as to present sense impression. Again, it's past -- present sense impression has to be happening at the time. If she called from the plane saying he's kicking me, for example.

581

MS. VASQUEZ: Overrule or sustain?

582

THE COURT: Sustain. I mean sustain. He's kicking me -- sorry. Thank you. He's kicking me. Those are present sense impressions.

583

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, "I need your help. JD--"

584

THE COURT: Yeah, JD, he is passed out on plane.

585

MS. VASQUEZ: But she says here, I'm headed to --

586

THE COURT: That's the one I'm talking about. That one. So, I need your help.

587

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes. I think that's state of mind. That's mental state of mind, at that point, Your Honor.

588

THE COURT: When are these texts?

589

MS. BREDEHOFT: This text is at 5:24, and right before that --

590

MS. VASQUEZ: She's already off the plane, Your Honor. She said she's headed to AD AD is one of Mr. Depp's residences, Sweetzer.

591

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, the cases that we cited, even on the excited utterance and the present sense, it says it doesn't have to be immediate, it can be after. Clearly, it's state of mind.

592

THE COURT: Well, the cases that you have, she had already'been assaulted and then she was calling and giving a license plate number.

593

MS. BREDEHOFT: That's one of them, that's correct.

594

THE COURT: She's already off the plane. She testified that on the plane, she was sitting, looking out the window.

595

MS. BREDEHOFT: It's state of mind, I need your help.

596

THE COURT: She said she was looking out the window for a time and then she was off the plane.

597

MS. VASQUEZ: And she recorded him

598

THE COURT: Then she recorded it. Just the window of her state of mind, so I'm going to I sustain the objection. Both of those, okay?

599

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

600

THE COURT: Thank you.

601

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

602 1:40:59

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Let's go to 205. Defendant's 205.

603

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

604 1:41:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: And this is a communication between you and Rocky Pennington, your best friend; is that correct?

605 1:41:18

MS. HEARD: That's correct.

606 1:41:19

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

607

THE COURT: All right. Do you want to approach?

608

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

609

THE COURT: All right. Do you want to make your responses for the record?

610

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes, Your Honor. The "I'm not good" is clearly state of mind. Mental condition at that point.

611

MS. BREDEHOFT: JD is drinking again and using some new round of prescription meds. He just freaked I on me bad. Never seen him like this before. It's worse than I've ever seen before. It's over. Maybe not forever but we're definitely on a break That's also state of mind, and it's also present sense impression.

612

THE COURT: Okay. I'm going to sustain as to present sense impression. Again, it's after ,9 the fact, and she's just talking about this -- 10 what she says happened.

613

THE COURT: And you're saying the first one, "I'm not good" is her state of mind?

614

MS. BREDEHOFT: Definitely state of mental mind.

615

THE COURT: All right. What's your response to that?

616

MS. VASQUEZ: It's vague. I'm not good. She could be not good in a lot of senses. There's no context there. I'm not good?

617

THE COURT: All right. So, state of mind must relate to a mental state that is relevant to the litigation. How is this relevant to the litigation?

618

MS. BREDEHOFT: She just got -- after being abused, she just got off the plane and she's not good. That's highly relevant. He's saying that he never abused her and that she abused him.

619

MS. VASQUEZ: She doesn't say she was abused. She just says, "I'm not good."

620

THE COURT: I'm going to overrule the objection to "I'm not good," but I'm going to sustain as to the last one, okay? Thank you.

621

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you.

622

MS. BREDEHOFT: This needs to be redacted.

623 1:43:28

THE COURT: So, 205 with redactions is in evidence.

624 1:43:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

625 1:43:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: May we publish to the jury?

626 1:43:37

THE COURT: It is.

627 1:43:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

628

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

629

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

630 1:43:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, Rocky Pennington, your best friend; is that correct?

631 1:43:44

MS. HEARD: Yes, it is.

632 1:43:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And when did you send this communication to Rocky?

633 1:43:51

MS. HEARD: Once I had touched down in LA.

634 1:43:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And you said "I'm not good."

635 1:43:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: What did you mean by that?

636 1:43:59

MS. HEARD: That I needed help.

637 1:44:01
638 1:44:02

MS. HEARD: That I was scared. I was scared of what had just happened to me. I was scared of what was going to happen to me. I was scared if I left him I was scared if I didn't. I needed help. I just needed support I couldn't - I didn't feel safe going home. I still had my place in Orange, he had keys.

639 1:44:28

MS. HEARD: I - I was scared.

640 1:44:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you text your mother and your father about this incident?

641 1:44:40

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

642 1:44:42

THE COURT: If you want to ...

643 1:44:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, communication did you have with your mother or your father following this incident? 222.

644 1:44:48

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

645 1:44:51

THE COURT: Sustain that objection.

646 1:44:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to Defendant's And, Your Honor, I suspect we're going to be back up.

647 1:45:02

THE COURT: Do you want to approach? That's fine.

648

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

649 1:45:08

THE COURT: All right. So you -- the one from the father is obviously hearsay, right?

650 1:45:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yeah, the one I'm looking at is in the blue box. And that is state of mind and present sense impression. She's going through and recounting what transpired. J 19

651 1:45:22

THE COURT: And when was --

652 1:45:29

MS. BREDEHOFT: This was 5:24.

653 1:45:35

THE COURT: You're saying present sense impression for all of this?

654 1:45:42

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes. It's describing what transpired, and then, it's also state of mind, how she is feeling about this and her struggle.

655 1:45:49

MS. VASQUEZ: After the fact, Your Honor.

656 1:45:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: Even after the fact, that doesn't take out state of mind.

657 1:46:02

THE COURT: Present sense impression is not after the fact. It's a present sense.

658 1:46:09

MS. BREDEHOFT: It's state of mind. She's saying where she is and how confused she is.

659 1:46:16

THE COURT: I'm going to sustain the objection to this. All right? Thank you.

660 1:46:23

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

661

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

662

[Section Header]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

663 1:46:29

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, communications did you have with Kate James following the Boston plane incident?

664 1:46:38

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

665 1:46:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, if we go to

666 1:46:43

THE COURT: Okay. 224.

667 1:46:44

MS. BREDEHOFT: My argument would be business records exception.

668 1:46:48

THE COURT: All right. If you want to come forward, we can do that.

669

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

670

THE COURT: Just let me read it. All right. You're saying the text message is business IO records?

671

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes, with her employee. She's also -- she talking about the hotel arrangements. She's asking her to book her on the plane, which is what her role is, she works for her.

672

THE COURT: But that--

673

MS. BREDEHOFT: Redirecting her texts, etc. So it's a business record.

674

MS. BREDEHOFT: But, Your Honor, the exception says it's a business record exception, that's an exception to the hearsay rule.

675

THE COURT: It's an exception, but then it also says, I can read it to you, if there's any opinions in it then that has to cover that hurdle.

676
677

THE COURT: And this is clearly all opinions in here. It's bad. It's worse than ever. Those are all opinions. Even if you get it in as a business record, none of the opinions come in, unless you have another reason --

678

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, here's my other question: Kate James has testified and was allowed to testify.

679

THE COURT: I can only handle the objections that are brought before me.

680

MS. BREDEHOFT: I understand. She testified because it was admissions against interest.

681

THE COURT: Right.

682

MS. BREDEHOFT: She said Amber Heard, you know, was having a great time, wasn't worried about it, never said anything to her.

683

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can't I do an impeachment on that?

684

THE COURT: Ms. James is not on the stand right now.

685

MS. BREDEHOFT: But she was a witness and it would be impeachment.

686

THE COURT: You can only impeach the person that's on the stand, okay?

687
688

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

689

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

690

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

691 1:48:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, what, if anything, did you do the evening of the 24th of May?

692 1:48:49

MS. HEARD: I reached out to friends and family, asked for support.

693 1:48:56

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

694 1:48:58

THE COURT: Sustained.

695 1:48:59

MS. HEARD: And surrounded myself with them, with that.

696 1:49:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if anything, did you do for Lily-Rose's birthday?

697 1:49:08

MS. HEARD: I - that's why we had gone back to LA. Johnny was sick after having passed out on the plane. So I took her to dinner. We went to Benihana's. It was, you know, again, put on my smile, took her out. Tried to make her feel loved and celebrated for her birthday. And then I booked a flight out to New York to go back to New York, obviously, without Johnny.

698 1:49:52

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to, now, turn to I 11 225.

699 1:50:02

MS. BREDEHOFT: And, Your Honor, I'm ! 9 going to be referring to the last two blue spots on that page, with the state of mind, mental I condition

700 1:50:19

THE COURT: All right.

701 1:50:20

MS. VASQUEZ: It's still hearsay, Your I Honor. May we approach? / rs

702

THE COURT: Yeah, would you want to approach. I just want to make sure I get the right context.

703

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

704

THE COURT: Which ones? The last two?

705

MS. VASQUEZ: Yeah.

706

MS. BREDEHOFT: The last two. Crying my eyes out.

707

THE COURT: She's sending them in two separate texts. All right.

708

THE COURT: Crying my eyes out. So, now, this is?

709

MS. BREDEHOFT: State of mind.

710

THE COURT: After dinner?

711

MS. VASQUEZ: After dinner, when she's at a hotel.

712

THE COURT: We're losing context here because this is after she took the daughter out.

713

MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, true, it's after what she -- remember that Kate James testified she was having a great time, she was consuming and no big deals, she wasn't upset at all. And this is what she's expressing to Kate James, that she's crying her eyes out, which is her state of mind at that point. She's crying her eyes out, she's very upset.

714

THE COURT: But you're trying to relate it back to the time on the plane, her state of mind. State of mind needs to be --

715

MS. BREDEHOFT: Sure. She's still upset. It just didn't go away.

716

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection. Thank you.

717

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

718

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

719

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

720 1:51:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to turn, now, to 228.

721 1:52:01

MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, we're going to object on hearsay.

722 1:52:02

THE COURT: If you want--

723 1:52:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: First line, Your Honor. Is all -- understanding Your Honor's ruling, but I think...

724 1:52:16

THE COURT: All right. if you want to come forward, that's fine.

725

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

726

THE COURT: All right. State of mind? All right. And is this --

727

MS. BREDEHOFT: I need your help. I . think that's clearly her state --

728

THE COURT: How is that her state of mind? I got the other one in, I understand that.

729

MS. VASQUEZ: I believe you just sustained an objection to the same type of text message.

730

THE COURT: I understand.

731

MS. BREDEHOFT: Actually, I thought the "I need your help" to Rocky came in for precisely that reason.

732

THE COURT: Well, she's had just gotten off the plane. Is that where we're at now? Or is p O this after dinner again?

733
734

MS. VASQUEZ: On what day, the 20 ...

735
736

MS. VASQUEZ: 24th.

737

MS. BREDEHOFT: To her sister.

738

MS. VASQUEZ: That was sustained.

739

MS. BREDEHOFT: I still think it's her state of mind, Your Honor. She's saying, you know, "I need help."

740

THE COURT: So you're just trying to get "I need your help"?

741

MS. BREDEHOFT: Right. Recognizing I I would like to get all of them --

742

THE COURT: No, I understand that.

743

MS. BREDEHOFT: I fully appreciate Your Honor's ruling.

744

THE COURT: A statement of the declarant' s then existing state of mind, emotion, sensation, or physical condition, but not including a statement of memory or belief to prove the fact remembered.

745

MS. BREDEHOFT: That's not a memory. I think that's clearly a state of mind, I need help.

746

MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, you just sustained the same objection to "I need help" to Rocky Pennington. It's the same thing. It's honestly the same message.

747

THE COURT: It is the same message.

748

MS. VASQUEZ: This is what she did.

749

MS. BREDEHOFT: This is what she did?

750

MS. VASQUEZ: Doesn't matter.

751

THE COURT: I don't see "I need your help" going to state of mind. I'm going to sustain the objection.

752

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

753

MS. BREDEHOFT: Present sense impression?

754

THE COURT: Noted for the record.

755

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

756

[Section Header]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

757 1:54:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, tell us what -- please tell the jury what you did, then, over that night, the next day, and at the hotel.

758 1:54:48

MS. HEARD: I cried, a lot. I tried to surround myself with my friends and resolve to leave him I felt - I felt powerless. Nothing I did made a difference. You know, on the plane, I was so careful -

759 1:55:11

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Nonresponsive.

760 1:55:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please just tell us what you did, and you can tell how you fee but don't go backwards, okay?

761 1:55:22

MS. HEARD: I resolved - I tried to - just get the strength to commit to leaving him I mean, I knew I had to. I knew nothing else would make a difference. So I got myself back to LA - I mean, I'm - excuse me, New York. And started going to Al-Anon meetings every day. It's a support group for people who love addicts and alcoholics.

762 1:55:54

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, communications did you have with Stephen Deuters?

763 1:55:59

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

764 1:56:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor --

765 1:56:02

MS. BREDEHOFT: Q: Let me ask it this way: What, if any, communications did you have with Mr. Deuters communicating on behalf of Mr. Depp?

766 1:56:10

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

767 1:56:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: I would say agency on that.

768 1:56:12

THE COURT: You have to lay a foundation for that.

769 1:56:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Let's go to 229A.

770 1:56:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: And could you -- without saying what the content is, could you tell us who this text message is with?

771 1:56:38

MS. HEARD: Johnny's assistant.

772 1:56:43

MS. BREDEHOFT: What's his name?

773 1:56:44

MS. HEARD: His name is Stephen Deuters.

774 1:56:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And what, if any, communication were you having with him following the Boston plane incident?

775 1:56:55

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

776 1:56:56

MS. VASQUEZ: May we approach?

777 1:56:57

THE COURT: All right. Yes, you may.

778

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

779

MS. VASQUEZ: So, I'll let Ms. Bredehoft.

780

THE COURT: What was your objection, first?

781

MS. VASQUEZ: My objection is hearsay, Your Honor. Very few employees are hired to be speaking agents. Mr. Deuters, while acting as an assistant to Mr. Depp, was not in charge of communicating with his then girlfriend/fiancee. And statements on speaking agents, only on matters within the sphere of their responsibilities.

782

THE COURT: And during the terms of their employment.

783

MS. VASQUEZ: And during terms of their employment.

784

THE COURT: I understand that.

785

MS. BREDEHOFT: He says here, "He's teary. He doesn't want to be a fuckup anymore." His words. And he testified, in his deposition, Your Honor will remember we showed that, that is Mr. Depp told him to reach out to Amber.

786

THE COURT: Depositions aren't foundation for here, okay? So if you had him here to testify that he told him to say that.

787

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, we should wait until later on these?

788

MS. VASQUEZ: The deposition, you didn't rule on it.

789

THE COURT: Okay. I didn't rule. So it wasn't part of the designation.

790
791

THE COURT: So his deposition is not coming in?

792

MS. VASQUEZ: Correct.

793

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm not positive we won't want to put that in, Your Honor.

794

THE COURT: We can't. The depositions are done.

795

MS. BREDEHOFT: I understand. Again --

796

THE COURT: Depositions are done in this case.

797

MS. BREDEHOFT: I understand.

798

THE COURT: That ruling isn't happening.

799

MS. BREDEHOFT: I understand.

800

MS. BREDEHOFT: My argument here is for the entirety of 29, which goes from 29A through M. It's admission by a party-opponent. A statement by the party's agent or employee, made during the term of the agency or employment, concerning a matter within the scope of such agency or employment.

801

THE COURT: Right. That's what I have here. I understand that. But I don't see the foundation for that. Only matters within the sphere of their responsibilities and during the term of their employment.

802

MS. BREDEHOFT: So if I lay a foundation that she's communicating with him --

803

THE COURT: You already said that. You already laid that foundation.

804

MS. BREDEHOFT: He is an employee.

805

THE COURT: It doesn't --

806

MS. BREDEHOFT: The deposition testimony on this --

807

THE COURT: You're saying, as a personal assistant, it was in his realm of employment to text the girlfriend of his employer?

808

MS. BREDEHOFT: That's what he testified.

809

THE COURT: No, that is not before me.

810
811

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

812

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

813

MS. BREDEHOFT: But I am making --

814

THE COURT: I'm sorry, which one? 229? For the record, I want to make sure I get them all. A through.

815

THE COURT: N --

816

THE COURT: M as in Mary?

817
818

THE COURT: So, 229A through M, I'll sustain the objection. Note your objection for the record for appeal.

819

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

820

THE COURT: Okay.

821

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

822

[Section Header]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

823 2:00:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you communicate, at all, with Mr. Depp in the days following the plane -- Boston plane incident?

824 2:00:25

MS. HEARD: Yes, I did.

825 2:00:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please tell the jury about those communications.

826 2:00:31

MS. HEARD: I heard from him directly; I heard from him through his assistants, who were texting for him.

827 2:00:39

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

828 2:00:41

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

829 2:00:42

MS. BREDEHOFT: You're not allowed to testify about the text messages with his assistant. But can you tell the jury about your communications with Mr. Depp?

830 2:00:53

MS. HEARD: Okay. It's kind of confusing because he's texting through them. j 7

831 2:00:55

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Your Honor.

832 2:00:58

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

833 2:00:59

THE COURT: I'll strike that from the record, and you'll disregard that testimony.

834 2:01:01

THE COURT: Please answer the question.12

835 2:01:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: Just confine it to the communications you had with Mr. Depp, please.

836 2:01:09

MS. HEARD: That he was sorry and told me that he was in a blackout He didn't remember everything, I, but what he did remember, he was ashamed of. Begged me to forgive him. Said he understood. Forgive me - forgave me if I never wanted to speak to him again.

837 2:01:34

MS. HEARD: He texted me at one point and then and then I didn't respond right away he text me again that he understood that I had made my decision to move on and good luck and I was better for it And then continued to contact me I spoke to him when I was in New York, on the phone, and he said that he was - he had a chip or that he was going to meetings; that he I think, at the time, mentioned sober- another celebrity that was kind of advising him on sobriety- not advising him, but encouraging him. He was saying, look, me and this person, we even went to a meeting. I've got three days sober, four days sober. And that was the last time. The monster will never come back. The monster will never come back.

838 2:02:43

MS. HEARD: Because it felt like such a different - it felt so much worse than it had ever been before and because I had, you know, went - went to New York and I was trying to get my strength to leave him. I actually thought that it kind of would be the turning point. I thought 201 had a -

839 2:03:07

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Nonresponsive.

840 2:03:10

THE COURT: Overruled.

841 2:03:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

842 2:03:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: Go ahead. Please continue.

843 2:03:17

MS. HEARD: I thought I -- I thought things would change.

844 2:03:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you draft any email to Mr. Depp to express your emotions and how you felt about all this?

845 2:03:32

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

846 2:03:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'll lay the foundation, Your Honor.

847 2:03:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to Defendant's 239.

848 2:03:51

THE COURT: 239.

849 2:03:54

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay, Your Honor.

850 2:03:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: And I would say both present sense impression and definitely state of mind, Your Honor.

851 2:04:02

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

852 2:04:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right.

853 2:04:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, did you ultimately communicate to Mr. Depp what you first drafted up in an email, without saying anything about what's in the email?

854 2:04:21

MS. VASQUEZ: That calls for hearsay, Your Honor.

855 2:04:24

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm just asking if she did.

856 2:04:27

THE COURT: Not what she said?

857 2:04:29

MS. BREDEHOFT: Correct.

858 2:04:30

THE COURT: Okay. Overruled.

859 2:04:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you communicate to Mr. Depp what you had drafted in the email? And don't -- you don't get to say what you said.

860 2:04:41

MS. HEARD: Yes.

861 2:04:42

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And what, if any, response did Mr. Depp have to your sending that email to him.

862 2:04:59

MS. HEARD: He -- he came to New York to fight for the relationship, for me, to prove that he was sober and he was committed to changing. I believed he was embarrassed and sorry. He said he was and I believed him. So I took him back -- or I got back with him on the condition that he would uphold his promise to do the treatment, to do the full detox, cleanup, and never go back.

863 2:05:31

MS. HEARD: P, g I I

864 2:06:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: So I'm going to take you, now, up to I the June through August 2014 time frame. And I think you testified earlier, and others have as well, that Mr. Depp brought in Dr. Kipper and his group, correct? ,6

865 2:06:20

MS. HEARD: Yes, he did.

866 2:06:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Could you, please, describe for s the jury what those next few months were like?

867 2:06:33

MS. HEARD: All of a sudden, the doctor gets brought on that had - that we had been talking about. I had heard this name before. And all of a sudden, this doctor, Dr. Kipper, apparently, wrote a book on addiction and was this doctor who was going to be the solution, the cure, you know. And he got - he got brought on board, and all of a sudden, the plan was that this team would be involved in Johnny's recovery. So it felt real. It felt serious. I felt, like, protected.

868 2:07:11

MS. HEARD: You know, I had already, by this point, heard a million times, it seems like, promises to get clean and sober, but this felt like a change. And they were going to come to Boston and start working with Johnny and the plan was to keep Johnny on the same level of drugs that he was on, since he was filming. They needed him to finish filming the movie, so he was going to be maintained with his - with prescription pills, including the painkillers, and the plan was he would, obviously, abstain from alcohol completely and all other drugs, like weed and coke, and, then, when he finished filming, the plan was to -

869 2:08:01

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Your Honor. Hearsay. Lack of foundation.

870 2:08:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: I don't understand what the objection -- I don't think it is. I think she was just explaining the context there.

871 2:08:15

THE COURT: Well, you can Jay a foundation of how she knew, that's fine.

872 2:08:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: How did you know that?

873 2:08:18

MS. HEARD: I was involved in the conversation with the -

874 2:08:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Continue.

875 2:08:23

MS. HEARD: The doctors and his sister.

876 2:08:25

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor.

877 2:08:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: J , That's still hearsay.

878 2:08:30

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

879 2:08:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: That part is.

880 2:08:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, what happened next, as a result of these communications, without saying what the communications were?

881 2:08:42

MS. HEARD: Nurse came to Boston, where Johnny was. I just would come for short periods of time, in between - I mean on weekends from filming, until I wrapped my movie, which I did, I think, in May, if I'm not mistaken. And I went to Boston, and I was there and saw a nurse was flown out to Boston, Debbie Lloyd, and I believe Kipper came out too. They put Johnny on a bunch of new medications, which they shared with me. Told me about.

882 2:09:17

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Your Honor. Hearsay.

883 2:09:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: We have to be careful about what other people told you, okay? But you can testify to what you know, okay?

884 2:09:29

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, what happened then?

885 2:09:33

MS. HEARD: I saw his medications change. I knew the amount that Johnny told them he was on was so that they -- they could maintain him for the filming. Meaning, not make a drastic change in the amount of painkillers he was taking. But he -- his behavior, his whole personality changed drastically. He would be speaking to me, and, at the time, I was staying in Boston with him, having wrapped my movie, and he would, in mid sentence, mid word, would fall asleep.

886 2:10:19

MS. HEARD: I ll One time, I was sitting across from him, and he would come in and out of sleep, of being awake or completely, what appeared to be, asleep while talking to me, and he had a cigarette in his hand. And, you know, Johnny constantly smoked, and he just had this cigarette, you know, as he fell asleep, while sleeping, down on his leg. They're hand rolled cigarettes, they don't stay lit very long, thankfully. But, you know, it was things like that, and I didn't understand it. Even though I had experience with drug use in my family, I hadn't is seen anything like this. And it was so dramatic, the change, that I was trying to figure out, with the nurses and doctors, what happened. What changed - how we could explain the change and what medications were causing it. I knew there were new medications involved. So, you know, I I was constantly worried and in communication, and as Johnny's behavior got worse and worse, more of this passing out, nodding off, waking up in the middle of the night screaming, waking up in the middle of the night, sometimes, crying, and the emotions would change from one to the next, like, by the second.

887 2:11:46

MS. HEARD: I remember we were on a long weekend, when he was filming in Boston. We went to this, like, this resort, retreat hotel, and, you know, he was just bawling, you know. It broke my heart. There were just a lot of changes, and I really didn't know - I felt so bad for him and I thought so maybe it was just what Kipper had introduced into the regime, the medications. But what I found out, in that time, is that he was taking about double the amount--

888 2:12:19

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Your Honor. Hearsay.

889 2:12:20

MS. BREDEHOFT: Is this your observation?

890 2:12:21

MS. HEARD: I saw it. I saw it.

891 2:12:23

THE COURT: Okay. Overruled.

892 2:12:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

893 2:12:24

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

894 2:12:27

MS. HEARD: He was taking about double the amount that he told them was his normal when he started the process with the doctors.

895 2:12:38

MS. HEARD: So, after a few, you know, it's, I think, months of going, what is wrong? And, you know, turning him over when he vomited at night or checking his pulse. There were -- all of a sudden, I just -- when I realized the amount was about double, I realized, then, that he had been lying to them and me about the amount so that he could get extra high before he had to detox.

896 2:13:19

MS. HEARD: Concerned for this person and he had just been doubling up his meds because he didn't -

897 2:13:29

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, Michelle, can you pull up 1092. Defendant's Exhibit 1092.

898 2:13:44

MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, did you take this picture of Mr. Depp?

899 2:13:47

MS. HEARD: I did.

900 2:13:49

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I'm going to move the admission of Defendant's Exhibit 1092.

901 2:13:52

THE COURT: Any objection?

902 2:13:53

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

903 2:13:53

THE COURT: All right. 1092 in evidence.

904 2:13:56

THE COURT: You can publish. Thank you.

905 2:13:59

MS. BREDEHOFT: And can you describe what's depicted here and why you took this picture?

906 2:14:06

MS. HEARD: This was during that time when the prescriptions that he was on and the doubling up of the opiates got so bad that he - he was - he was like this, just throughout the day, off and on. And then he would take Adderall and he would be really animated and ready to go, and then it would be this again. And it was so erratic and so - it changed so quickly. And I, naively, now, really did not understand what was going on.

907 2:14:42

MS. HEARD: I deeply cared about this human's well-being.

908 2:14:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right.

909 2:14:48

MS. HEARD: And it was very confusing and scary. j 8

910 2:14:53

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, did there come a time, then, that Mr. Depp went into detox for OxyContin, Roxicodone, or whatever they're called?

911 2:15:05

MS. HEARD: Yes. When he finished filming, the plan was to do this detox, and that's what we did.

912 2:15:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: And when was that?

913 2:15:14

MS. HEARD: That would have been early August of 2014. I believe we left-we were there for, I think, a week to ten days, 8th through the 18th, more or less.

914 2:15:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: And we've heard some testimony about this, but can you, please, describe for the jury what took place during this detox on the Bahamas ,21 Islands in August of 2014? /22

915 2:15:38

MS. HEARD: It was, for the first few days, okay. Peaceful. I - the nurse, and then later nurse and doctor, were staying on a different part of the island, a few minutes' drive by ATV, like, 10, 15 minutes, by, you know, one of those, you know, ATV vehicles. But we communicated via walkie-talkie and occasionally through texts. It was okay at first, and then the behavior - then it just really wasn't okay. It was up, down. He'd be mad at me then he was wanting a hug. He cried a lot and then he, you know, wanted to have sex a lot. Which was just not like Johnny at all. And it was just like that.

916 2:16:33

MS. HEARD: It was just up, down mood. And it felt like I was constantly catering to the mood, whatever he was going through at the time. I was just trying to adapt and just roll with it and provide support. I was taking his blood pressure. I was on a schedule and in constant communication with the nurses about delivering the meds, giving him his meds at a certain time. I was just trying to take care of him. And a few days in, you know, I guess the effects of the detox really started to change, and it went from this, like, erratic behavior, up and down, up and down, to just really down or mad. He would burst into anger at me, yelling at me across the -- I walked away from it at the table. I crossed the table in a certain way, and he screamed at me about that and he tried to overturn this table. Luckily, it was bolted down to the deck. But I remember him shaking it and screaming. At a different point, he was really calm and sweet and thanking me.

917 2:17:39

MS. HEARD: Then another -- you know, he -- looked like he was balancing out and we had a conversation, and he was saying he wanted to quit, like quit the detox. He couldn't do it anymore. And I was trying to find the language to encourage him. You know, I was trying to remind him how much he wanted that. How much he had told me he wanted that. How much he -- I was reminding him, he told me all the time, I saved his life and he wouldn't be doing this without me. I was telling him these things.

918 2:18:13

MS. HEARD: At one point, in our conversation, I told him about how --

919 2:18:16

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Your Honor. Hearsay.

920 2:18:20

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please try to continue without what you said, please.

921 2:18:25

MS. HEARD: I said something to him and he got so angry at me, he slapped me across the face. But he did it, like, while crying. It was the weirdest thing. He was crying, saying no woman had ever embarrassed him like that. No woman had ever made him feel like that. I heard that for the rest of the trip, too, on repeat.

922 2:18:52

MS. HEARD: And I felt bad. I feel bad, still feel bad. But, you know, I didn't want to make him feel embarrassed. That's not what I wanted to do. This was way over my head. I don't know how to detox someone. I don't know how to do that. I shouldn't have been there. He wanted --

923 2:19:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: Why were you there?

924 2:19:14

MS. HEARD: Because he asked me to. And I didn't know that that was a phenomenally dumb idea. I don't know why anyone -- why the doctors and I nurses didn't tell me not to. I didn't - I had no idea what that was going to look like or be like. And it was hell. You know, we're on an island, I'm trying to take care of him, and he's hallucinating.

925 2:19:39

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. nonresponsive.

926 2:19:42

THE COURT: Overruled.

927 2:19:43

MS. HEARD: Screaming at me for things I said when I didn't say - I hadn't said anything. I would tell him, Johnny-

928 2:19:51

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

929 2:19:53

MS. BREDEHOFT: I think in the context, Your Honor. It's not offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted.

930 2:19:58

THE COURT: What's it for, then?

931 2:20:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: Just telling the context of the --

932 2:20:01

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

933 2:20:02
934 2:20:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue, and just say what he Is I , said and he did and what your observations were.

935 2:20:10

MS. HEARD: He was accusing me of having a man in the house with me. We were in a single, you know, in a cabin. It's basically one room, with a closet and a bathroom. I mean, there's nowhere to hide, really. There's a closet and a bathroom. He, at one point, told me that I was hiding somebody in the house. Another point, he was communicating with someone not in the room. He would yell at me and then yell at someone else, who wasn't there. And I tried to ask for what I should do. I didn't know what to do. It was terrifying and strange. The whole week was.

936 2:21:02

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, after you left Bahamas and finished I with the detox there, where did you go from there?

937 2:21:14

MS. HEARD: We, meaning Debbie Lloyd, Dr. Kipper, and I and Johnny, we flew back to LA, and he was going back and forth between saying he wasn't going to continue to he was committed. It was back and forth. Everything was up and down, erratic, like, changing every second. And we got to LA and Debbie and Kipper communicated with me, I won't say what they said, but I decided it would be probably in everyone's best interest if I went away to a hotel. Johnny put me up in this room, in this hotel, while he finished the process of detox in LA, and I had my friends out with-- my girlfriends there to support me, as per usual.

938 2:22:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: So let's -- Michelle, can you pull up 272, please.

939 2:22:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: And after you both returned to LA, did Mr. Depp communicate with you by text while you were apart, while he was finishing the detox?

940 2:22:45

MS. HEARD: Yes, he did.

941 2:22:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I would like to move the admission of 272.

942 2:22:49

THE COURT: Any objection.

943 2:22:50

MS. VASQUEZ: Yes, Your Honor, to the first message -- excuse me, Your Honor, to the second.

944 2:22:54

THE COURT: You mean the response?

945 2:22:57

MS. VASQUEZ: Right.

946 2:22:58

THE COURT: Okay.

947 2:23:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: And it's just present sense impression, but I'm understanding Your Honor's rulings on that.

948 2:23:04

THE COURT: I'll sustain.

949 2:23:08

THE COURT: If you want to redact it, that's fine.

950 2:23:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you redact that second message.

951 2:23:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Your Honor, I --

952 2:23:23

THE COURT: All right. Any objection, O 272 redacted?

953 2:23:26

MS. VASQUEZ: No, Your Honor.

954 2:23:29

THE COURT: Okay. 272 in evidence, and we can publish.

955 2:23:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: And, Amber, I'm going to show you, now what is Exhibit 272, and this is on August 20, 162014. It's a text message from Mr. Depp to you.

956 2:23:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

957 2:23:47

MS. HEARD: Yes. I do.

958 2:23:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And just so that we can highlight here, he's calling you -- he says, "Just to let you know that I'm fine, my angel. I miss you of course, but this was the right thing to do" to speed up the process. I love you more than life. Yours, Steve.

959 2:24:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

960 2:24:06

MS. HEARD: I do.

961 2:24:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, what, if any, expressions was Mr. Depp giving you, at this point, that he was angry with you ever having to help participate with the detox or to be on the island or anything along that line?

962 2:24:22

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Form Compound.

963 2:24:24

THE COURT: I'll allow it. But just for -- trying to keep the record clear. 272 has already been entered into evidence without that redaction, and there wasn't any objection, so I wish-- if I could have both sides to keep track of their evidence. It's not my job to keep this.

964 2:24:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor, and I just got a note to that effect.

965 2:24:44

THE COURT: Okay. So, 272 is in evidence without -- you can clear the redaction y and publish it. It's really the parties' responsibility to take care of the record, not mme.

966 2:24:53

MS. BREDEHOFT: My apologies, on that one, Your Honor. All right.

967 2:25:02

THE COURT: All right. And I overruled the objection, so she can answer the question.

968 2:25:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

969 2:25:08

MS. HEARD: I'm sorry, can you remind me what the question is?

970 2:25:11

THE COURT: That's fair.

971 2:25:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if anything, did Mr. Depp say about that you were torturing him on the island and that he didn't want you there?

972 2:25:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: That's fair.

973 2:25:23

MS. HEARD: Very confusing for me to hear that because even though he was hallucinating and angry at me at various moments, when he would have these kind of episodes, I did nothing but try to take care of him. I'm not a nurse. I did my best to support him, and he thanked me. He thanked my mom. He thanked my dad. Told me, of course, I saved his life. That he wouldn't be able to make this change without me, and that this process was horrible and hard on him and us and me, but that he was so thankful that I was there for him.

974 2:26:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. We can take this down now, Michelle. Thank you.

975 2:26:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to take you up to September/October of 2014.

976 2:26:38

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you remember filming Magic Mike 2 in that time frame?

977 2:26:45

MS. HEARD: Yes, I do.

978 2:26:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what, if any, connections did you have with Mr. Depp in that time frame?

979 2:26:55

MS. HEARD: Well, I bargained with him about me doing the role. And he told me he would call the actors. It was a mostly male cast. But I bargained with him -

980 2:27:11

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

981 2:27:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: Don't say what you said, just say what he said, okay? , y

982 2:27:29

MS. HEARD: Uh-huh. He reluctantly kind of agreed to me working on this movie, or taking the job. He was filming a different movie in London at the time. I wasn't going to play a sexualized character. I wore no makeup, or minimal makeup in the movie. No sexy clothing. No kissing scenes. No sex scenes. So I went and did that film in October of 2014, in Georgia, while he finished his movie in London. And then, at some point, he came out to pick me up in Georgia and was there for my last, like, day or two filming.

983 2:28:25

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to tum to --

984 2:28:30

MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, can you bring up 310, please, Defendant's 310.

985 2:28:43

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have communications with Mr. Depp about auditioning for another role in this time frame?

986 2:28:50

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. I'm going to object to the exhibit. That's hearsay.

987 2:29:00

THE COURT: I'm not sure who's in the text exchange.

988 2:29:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: It is a text exchange, Your Honor. But the green is Mr. Depp and the one I'm most focused on is on the second page, Your Honor, the top.

989 2:29:21

THE COURT: The green bubble on the ; 6 second page?

990 2:29:26
991 2:29:27

THE COURT: All right. So just that text?

992 2:29:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: Based on Your Honor's rulings, yes.

993 2:29:33

THE COURT: Any objection to that text?

994 2:29:34

MS. VASQUEZ: No. Thank you, Your Honor.

995 2:29:35

THE COURT: Okay. If we can get that redacted.

996 2:29:42

MS. BREDEHOFT: And while that's being redacted, Amber, let me ask you, what, if any -- anything, was Mr. Depp saying to you in this time frame, we're talking November 2014, about you not working anymore or not taking on any more work or auditioning? auditioning? I l 1 !

997 2:29:48

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Compound. And leading.

998 2:29:53

MS. BREDEHOFT: They're all a subset.

999 2:29:59

THE COURT: Overruled. I'll allow it.

1000 2:30:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

1001 2:30:09

MS. HEARD: Johnny was angry with me for working. I had finished my job and I needed to eventually find another job, meaning a movie, to work on, and he was furious at me for - he found on, like, we call them sides, just pieces of an audition, pages, and he found something that had been sent to me to consider auditioning for, and he blew up at me for - yeah, I think he - what he said to me was that I didn't tell him - that I didn't ask him. And that because he didn't know about that audition, that I hadn't done yet, that I had been hiding it. And he was furious at me.

1002 2:31:18

MS. HEARD: I ended up not doing that audition, I believe. Well, there is a few, one or two, at that time, that I did put my - I did audition for and one or two that I didn't.

1003 2:31:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. I'm going to ask you, now, to take a look at what is Defendant's Exhibit 310.

1004 2:31:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this email from Mr. Depp?

1005 2:31:47

MS. HEARD: Yes, it's a text.

1006 2:31:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I'm going to move for the admission.

1007 2:31:50

THE COURT: It's in. 310, it's in with the redactions. I published it.

1008 2:31:53
1009 2:31:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please tell the jury about this text and the context.

1010 2:32:01

MS. HEARD: This was Johnny's response to me apologizing for having an audition.

1011 2:32:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Thank you.

1012 2:32:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Now, I'm going to stay in November of 2014.

1013 2:32:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: And did there come a time that Mr. Depp told you that he understood that you were not going to accept any more jobs, that you were going to stop working?

1014 2:32:35

MS. HEARD: Johnny said this to me in an argument, in a fit of rage, is the best way I can describe y it, and kind of alluded to me having agreed to not work anymore. Which, if you don't know me, is - is preposterous. There's no way I would agree to that Although, I did make concessions and gave up a lot of-

1015 2:32:54

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

1016 2:33:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: That wasn't --

1017 2:33:14

THE COURT: Overruled.

1018 2:33:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

1019 2:33:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

1020 2:33:18

MS. HEARD: So he reached out to other people and to me to that effect Furious at me for taking meetings. There was one, in particular, I wanted - one meeting I wanted to take because it was a project in development with a sci-fl writer, and I remember I wanted to take that. These things were just - they were just constant and constant fights, but in between them, when things were good between Johnny and I, he would be, you know, he would word it to me like I'm trying to look out for you. You know, you say that you I don't want to be objectified but you're doing it to yourself. You know, you -- at first, it was because I dressed a certain way or had sex scenes, ,4 then it just got more narrow, more narrow, more Is narrow what I could do, without being the blame for why the industry, Hollywood, the entertainment industry was putting me in a box and objectifying I me. So it became my fault, and I believed it. You know, I believed it. I adopted a lot of these changes myself, not because Johnny, you know, said you have to do it this way, but because of all the other things that he said and did. I eventually found myself making decisions about my own career, about how I dressed, how I wore my hair, how I presented, where my eyes looked at when I walked into a room. I believed those were my own decisions.

1021 2:34:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, did there come a time, in November 2014, that you engaged in some couples counseling with Dr. Cowan and you and Mr. Depp?

1022 2:35:08

MS. HEARD: We attempted to. I had stopped seeing my therapist at the -- in 2014. I couldn't sustain seeing her and be in the relationship with Johnny, and I chose Johnny. Eventually, Dr. Kipper introduced me to his close friend, Dr. Cowan. And I met with Dr. Cowan and agreed to let them share communication about my care, my treatment, both what I said to Cowan and what I said to Dr. Kipper, who had become my physician as well. He also put a nurse on me that would be my travel companion, and that travel companion would keep tabs on me and report to Dr. Kipper, who reported everything to Johnny.

1023 2:36:07

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay. Calls for speculation.

1024 2:36:11

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

1025 2:36:12
1026 2:36:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So tell us about the couples therapy in November of 2014.

1027 2:36:18

MS. HEARD: So Dr. Cowan, this man who is friends with Kipper, is treating me, agreed to see Johnny and I together. And I don't know how many minutes that went on before Johnny stormed out. Knocked something off the table on his way out, and rolled a joint in the bathroom before storming out of the office, slamming the door.

1028 2:36:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. So I'm going to take you up to December of 2014, and specifically December 17, 2014. And I'm going to ask you to take a -- what, if anything, do you recall of an incident with Mr. Depp relating to Clive Barker?

1029 2:37:08

MS. HEARD: Barker. He was the sci-fl writer that I liked -- well, fantasy sci-fl writer. I really-- I kind of had a dream project based on books that I loved of this author. He's just a weirdo genius artist/writer, and I had a meeting with him, through another director, about a piece of property he wanted to make into a movie. And I just remember we were -- I believe we were at the ECB, it was in December of 2014, when Johnny found out that I had this meeting scheduled and furious at me.

1030 2:38:07

MS. HEARD: Accused me of having this plan to sleep with this -- he was mad that I was taking this meeting at this man's house, but the man was very ill, like, terminally ill, and not able to leave his bed or his home. He was under home care and very ill, and that person who was introducing us explained to me how we had to meet, and I did. And that was a big problem for Johnny.

1031 2:38:40

MS. HEARD: At first, it was that he was concerned about my safety. And I thought that was sweet and, you know, there is something that I thought was sweet and romantic about that. But combined with the drinking, it just - he - it was not very long before I was being accused of full-on having this other plan to sleep with the writer in order to get this part that I was already being, you know, basically offered to develop. And it was just this, you know, he switched from me having - he was accusing me of having this ulterior motive with this director, the director having it with me and this writer.

1032 2:39:26

MS. HEARD: And the important thing that I can try to get across in this moment is that nothing I said, no amount of explaining, apologizing, accepting, not accepting, agreeing to not go, nothing worked. Nothing changed how mad he was at me and constantly telling me I had done something wrong to deserve what was happening, until, of course, he takes it too far, hits me too hard, breaks too many things in the house, and then leaves. Which was the pattern. He would leave and not have to deal with the cleanup. Never had deal with the cleanup. Never had to deal with the destruction or see me or the house that he had destroyed. Never had to , deal with my face the next day. He would just go. I will call it splitting. He just split.

1033 2:40:20

MS. HEARD: And eventually, I'd get an apology of some kind or I would get an offer to have him come over. He would offer to come over and talk or give me my peace or give me my good-bye. And in many ways, I found myself accepting that, knowing that it was kind of false pretense because I, too, wanted to resolve it. I didn't want him to think I was sleeping with the sci-fi writer. I didn't want him to think that I was this slut he said I was all the time.

1034 2:40:54

MS. HEARD: I mean, part of me really wanted to believe that he didn't mean those things and I wanted to get to that part of him that would tell me he didn't mean what he said and that he was acting this way because he was messed up, you know. And the cycle would repeat, I suppose.

1035 2:41:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: Was there any physical violence on or around December 17, 2014?

1036 2:41:20

MS. HEARD: Yes, is the answer to your question. I just don't -- I don't really remember what happened in that fight. I remember more afterwards. I remember how apologetic he was for it. I remember him telling me he took it too far. I remember him saying he'd never do it again. And I remember wanting to get to Christmas. You know, Christmases are hard, probably, for everyone, and I remember that it was close enough to Christmas that I was tired and I wanted to be in a forgiving -- not forgiving. I wanted to be in a kind, gentle, peaceful state for Christmas.

1037 2:41:59

MS. HEARD: I didn't want to go through a breakup this time. I didn't want to -- you know, that's what I remember at this time.

1038 2:42:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's bring up Defendant's Exhibit 321, Michelle. This is on 12/17/2014.

1039 2:42:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: Is this a text message exchange between you and Mr. Depp?

1040 2:42:27

MS. HEARD: Yes, it is.

1041 2:42:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I would like to move the admission of Defendant's 321.

1042 2:42:32

THE COURT: Any objection?

1043 2:42:35

MS. VASQUEZ: Sorry, Your Honor. Just a quick minute. Your Honor, no objection.

1044 2:42:47

THE COURT: All right. 321 in evidence. You can publish it, please.

1045 2:42:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, I'm just going to turn your attention to this. This is an email exchange between you and Mr. Depp and he says, "I'm truly sorry to have upset you to the degree that I have. I couldn't be more sorry for, yet again, ruining your day. I do, of course, take your generosity, your selflessness, your affection, your sweet doting deeply into my heart, and I think that I've been reciprocal. Agony is never the answer to any equation or occasion, nor is rage. Please know that my apology is sincere and solid. And as stupid as it sounds, I hope your meeting with Clive Barker is excellent.

1046 2:43:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

1047 2:43:39

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1048 2:43:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then you respond "Thank you for your words."

1049 2:43:43

MS. BREDEHOFT: And you indicate you just left Betty Sue's. That's his mother?

1050 2:43:49

MS. HEARD: Yes. And I then had a - a glass of wine with my former agent, Megan.

1051 2:44:00
1052 2:44:01

MS. HEARD: That afterwards, she encouraged -

1053 2:44:10

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

1054 2:44:11

MS. HEARD: Yeah.

1055 2:44:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Thank you.

1056 2:44:12

MS. HEARD: Sure.

1057 2:44:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: We can take that down. Let's bring up 325. Defendant's 325, please.

1058 2:44:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: And this is an email exchange the following day, 12/18/2014; is that correct?

1059 2:44:43

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1060 2:44:43

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Your Honor, I move the admission of Defendant's 325.

1061 2:44:49

THE COURT: It's already in.

1062 2:44:49

MS. BREDEHOFT: Oh, it's already in, Your Honor. My apologies. We'll get that figured out at lunch.

1063 2:44:54

MS. VASQUEZ: What is that?

1064 2:44:58

THE COURT: It's been in evidence. Does anybody over there have a list of evidence that's already in evidence? We're making sure?

1065 2:45:01

MS. VASQUEZ: Without redactions?

1066 2:45:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: Ours indicates it is. It's in.

1067 2:45:08

MS. VASQUEZ: Without redactions, Your Honor?

1068 2:45:11

THE COURT: It was redacted. I don't know what it was redacted to.

1069 2:45:14
1070 2:45:16

MS. VASQUEZ: Well, the redactions don't --

1071 2:45:19

THE COURT: That's how it is in evidence, Mr. Murphy? We can check. We'll check our copy.

1072 2:45:31

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you.

1073 2:45:38

MS. VASQUEZ: It's fine, Your Honor. We've, confirmed. Thank you.

1074 2:45:41

THE COURT: Yes.

1075 2:45:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right.

1076 2:45:48

THE COURT: All right. It can be published.

1077 2:45:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

1078 2:46:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: JUROR 3: Pardon the interruption, Your s Honor, but I can't see anything on my screen.

1079 2:46:02

THE COURT: You can't see it on your screen? Okay. We'll take care of that on a break. Oh, you got it? Okay. Thank you. Go ahead.

1080 2:46:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Thank you.

1081 2:46:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, this is from Mr. Depp, right? It says "it's away. I let it go" too far -- "went too far." Do you see that?

1082 2:46:21

MS. HEARD: Yes, I do.

1083 2:46:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: I always regret it when I jump or worse when you jump. I don't want to be conditioned to continue that behavior. Therefore, I'll put in heavy work with shrank.

1084 2:46:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: What is your understanding of what he's referring to with "shrank"?

1085 2:46:38

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Calls for speculation.

1086 2:46:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have an understanding of what he meant?

1087 2:46:42

MS. HEARD: Yes, I knew exactly what he meant

1088 2:46:44

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what did he mean?

1089 2:46:46

MS. HEARD: "Shrank" is shrink.

1090 2:46:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: What did he call shrink?

1091 2:46:53

MS. HEARD: Johnny called them shrinks, meaning psychologist, therapist, shrink.

1092 2:46:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. "I'm sorry for being less, for your disappointment in me, for my behavior. fucking savage." I'm a Do you see that?

1093 2:47:06

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1094 2:47:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. "Going to lose that. Going to lose that. The devil is all around, right?"

1095 2:47:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, you respond to this, and, of course, before you go there, and he says, "I am" well aware that I should have been bigger at the moment, and that it will never again manifest in negative experiences. It can be done. What a killer concept to visualize.

1096 2:47:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

1097 2:47:34

MS. HEARD: Yes, I do.

1098 2:47:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: And you respond "I love you. I miss you already," correct?

1099 2:47:41

MS. HEARD: That's right.

1100 2:47:43

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And what, if anything, is that in -- consistent with the cycle that you have described?

1101 2:47:52

MS. HEARD: Well, the language he used, after particularly violent episodes, were savage, monster, devil. We ended up both calling his other side - the side of Johnny that would do and say unbelievably horrible things is very different from the other Johnny that was, in my opinion, a direct opposite. And this is typical of the apologies that I would get when he took it too far, physically. I was encouraged because I thought it meant that he understood that he could really hurt me. Sometimes I didn't think he understood how much he could hurt me. Physically, I mean. So, after this, I had a visible bruise. I don't remember where, but I remember what other people -- well, I can't say that, what they said, so, anyway. And I, you know, in these fights, would try to stand up for myself.

1102 2:49:22

MS. HEARD: By December 2014, I was pushing back, I would push him off of me. I tried to hit his hands away. I tried to always get back up, which was -- not sometimes, almost always made it worse. Almost always seemed to provoke him, but I tried. I would yell at him, I'd scream at him. I'd call him ugly names. I'm ashamed of the names we'd call each other. It was awful. It was awful. And we both got into that pattern. It was so, you know, I felt so angry that this was happening to me and it felt just -- it felt so unfair, you know. It felt like nothing I could do.

1103 2:50:10

MS. HEARD: Felt like nothing I could do would change the sobriety patterns Nothing I could do would stand up Nothing I did would make him stop hitting me I nothing So, you know, I tried for over a year, maybe two, of just not responding physically, not responding verbally, just staring at him. I tried to freeze. I tried to go to a different place. I would try, then, lashing out verbally. I would try to threaten that if he hit me again, that I would call the police. You know, the police were called several times. I tried to do everything. I even tried to leave, you know. Tried to leave him. And nothing was working. And I think, by this point in our relationship, we're both saying awful things to each other, screaming at each other, and, unfortunately, when Johnny would start hitting me, he'd just win.

1104 2:50:42

MS. HEARD: I don't know how else I to describe it.

1105 2:51:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, this might I be a good time for the lunch break.

1106 2:51:16

THE COURT: All right. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll go ahead and take our lunch break at this time, until 2:00. Please do not discuss the case or do any outside research, okay? Thank

1107 2:51:50

THE COURT: All right. And again, ma'am, please don't discuss your testimony with anybody at this point, okay?

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury exited the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

1109 2:51:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor

1110 2:51:51

THE COURT: 2:00.

1111 2:51:51

COURT BAILIFF: All rise.

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Recess taken from 12:59 p.m to 2:00 p.m.)

1113 2:51:52

COURT BAILIFF: All rise. Please be seated and come to order.

1114 2:51:52

THE COURT: All right. Okay. Are we ready for the jury?

1115 2:51:52
1116 2:51:53

THE COURT: Okay.

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury entered the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

1118 2:51:53

THE COURT: All right Thank you ---------44-75-- All right You may be seated Your next question.

1119 3:54:30

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

1120 3:54:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, can you bring up Defendant's Exhibit 236, which has already been admitted.

1121 3:54:44

THE COURT: Thank you.

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

1123 3:54:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, I'm jumping back to the Boston plane incident just for a moment. We had a lot of different texts and a lot of exchange. But I just wanted to point out to you this text message is from -- this is from Mr. Depp to you, correct?

1124 3:55:06

MS. HEARD: Yes, it is.

1125 3:55:06

MS. BREDEHOFT: And this is on 5/25, the day after the Boston plane incident?

1126 3:55:12

MS. HEARD: That's correct.

1127 3:55:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And he is saying, Once again, I find myself in a place of shame and regret. Of course I am sorry. I really don't know why or what happened, but I will never do it again. I want to get better for you and for me. I must. My illness somehow crept up and grabbed I me. I can't do it again. I can't live like that again. I know you can't either, and I will for both of us starting today. I love you. Again, I'm so sorry, so sorry. I love you and feel so Is bad for letting you down." Do you see that?

1128 3:55:48

MS. HEARD: I do.

1129 3:55:49

MS. BREDEHOFT: And was that the message that you -- that you testified to that he gave you?

1130 3:55:57

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1131 3:55:59

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Now I'm going to jump back to where we left off. We're up in January of I 13 2015. Danish Girl, you're filming in London; is I that correct?

1132 3:56:12

MS. HEARD: Yes. That would have been January 2015.

1133 3:56:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, we heard some testimony I 1 s from Isaac Baruch earlier about a telephone call that you had with Mr. Depp.

1134 3:56:25

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall that call?

1135 3:56:27

MS. HEARD: I do.

1136 3:56:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you please tell the jury? And remember to tell them what Mr. Depp was saying on that call. And you can give -- I didn't mean to cut you off about the context. Go ahead.

1137 3:56:40

MS. HEARD: Is it okay to -- the nature of the conversation was pleasant.

1138 3:56:46
1139 3:56:51

MS. HEARD: Friendly, fine, normal. And then Johnny stopped making sense with this. Like he would start a sentence and then trail off and act confused when I would -- I would be confused. And that pattern kind of increased pretty dramatically in a short amount of time, and I was in a hotel room in London speaking to him in Los Angeles, and the phone, what I assumed, cut off.

1140 3:57:33

MS. HEARD: I thought it was a connection issue, and I remember getting out of bed and walking into the bathroom to get something, you know, redialing him, in the span of that short amount of time we were disconnected. It was minutes, not even minutes. I called him back, thinking the phone had been disconnected and he answered and he said, "How could you tell me that? How could you say" that to me? Who the fuck is he? Who the fuck is he?" And he asked me that a few times, and I was so confused. You know, I didn't understand what he was talking about. I expressed that to him. He said, "Who is the guy, the one in New York that you're fucking?

1141 3:58:31

MS. HEARD: And it was -- it was such a bizarre conversation because it had already started to feel like he was not -- it was almost as if he was confused by what sentence he had started by the time he got to the end of it. And then all of a sudden, he tells me that I have just told him that I had a boyfriend or a lover in New York and I had -- he's accusing me of having just told him about it, which was crazy to me.

1142 3:59:14

MS. HEARD: Not only was that not accurate, I would never have communicated with him like that. I wouldn't call him on the phone to do it and then call him back and wonder what the connection issue was. It was just the most bizarre thing. But he was so worked up, incoherent, and accusing me of having had this conversation with him. Eventually the line drops out, and I spoke to the person who picked up the phone.

1143 3:59:45
1144 3:59:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: And how did that end?

1145 3:59:51

MS. HEARD: I no longer spoke to Johnny. I probably can't say what the person told me.

1146 3:59:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: Are we talking about Isaac Baruch?

1147 3:59:58

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1148 4:00:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: So without saying what he said, you had O a brief conversation with Mr. Baruch, and that was the end of the call?

1149 4:00:05

MS. HEARD: I did. It was my understanding Johnny was passed out.

1150 4:00:07

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

1151 4:00:10

THE COURT: Sustained.

1152 4:00:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. January 25, 2015, Tokyo. Please tell -- it's the premiere of Mortdecai?

1153 4:00:21

MS. HEARD: Correct.

1154 4:00:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you accompany Mr. Depp to Tokyo for the premiere of Mortdecai?

1155 4:00:25

MS. HEARD: I did. I had just-

1156 4:00:29

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please tell the jury about that.

1157 4:00:32

MS. HEARD: Well, I had just started to pick out the wedding dress right before that trip, and plans were moving for us to get married shortly after this trip. So we took this trip to promote ls his movie. I went with him and we got into an argument in the hotel room, and I -- I said -- I I don't remember what I said to him, but I said ,8 something snotty to him that provoked him. It provoked him, and when I walked into the hallway, jlO he grabbed me by the arm and slammed me up against the hallway wall. And I kind of struggled with him, tried to push him off of me.

1158 4:01:20

MS. HEARD: And I managed to get out of his grasp enough to take a few steps and kind of -- I kind of curved around and went into the closet, and by the time I made it into the closet, he had me by the hair and what felt like he was just whaling on me, but in a really sloppy way, like hitting me in the back of my head, kind of wrestled me down to the floor. I mean, it felt to me like I didn't even have a fair shot because I wasn't even really-- I wasn't facing him or looking at him; I was walking away from him. Or else, you know, I would have at this point even, like, had a -- I would have tried to defend myself more. But I didn't. I kind of felt like I didn't see it coming, and he just wrestled me down to the ground. And I remember he was screaming at me. I mean, like really screaming, loud. And what I remember of that is trying to get up and him kind of wrestling me back down and then at one point he put his knee on my back, kind of like kneeling on my back. And I just had this, like, struggle with him.

1159 4:02:48

MS. HEARD: And I look at him, and he's still got his glasses on. I just remember looking at him and thinking it was so -- like he just looked like he hadn't been through anything. You know, he still had his glasses on, sunglasses, and he was screaming at me that he hated me, that it was over. He didn't want to marry me. He was disgusted. He made this mistake. It was a big mistake, and everyone hated me. And I remember crying on the floor, just -- more than anything, I was heartbroken. I thought maybe he was serious. I thought maybe, "God, he doesn't love me. Maybe this is - maybe he really feels these - this way." It broke my heart It broke my heart. I wanted to marry him so bad. I wanted- this is the man I loved, you know. Yes, it was awful at times, but I loved him and what he-

1160 4:03:13

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. nonresponsive.

1161 4:03:37

THE COURT: Overruled.

1162 4:04:01

MS. HEARD: What he was saying to me hurt just as bad as anything else. I just remember that he left me on the closet floor, and as embarrassing - as embarrassing as it is to say, I went up to him at some point, I don't know how much time passed. He was sitting at the piano in the living room of the hotel room that we had It's so - I know it may be hard to understand; it's hard for me to hear myself say, but I felt - I just wanted it to stop. I wanted things to just be okay.

1163 4:05:04

MS. HEARD: And I just sat next to him on the piano and I just leaned my head on his shoulder, and of course I was mad. Of course I was mad It was horrible what he'd done, but on the other hand, I just really wanted us to be okay. I could just put this other - I could put the physical stuff in a box, and it just kept going back how much I loved this person. So I just - put my makeup n and went to the premiere with him and walked the red carpet with him And I remember, in the car, checking my bruises for pictures because my back was - my dress was backless. Of all times to have a backless dress. It was pictures. I was on the red carpet. It was surreal because I just was checking for bruises and making sure that nothing - like there would be no marks on me, and we just we looked like this other thing on this red carpet when it was just - it was not like that. It's embarrassing. I know it's hard to - I'm sure it's hard to -

1164 4:05:59

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. nonresponsive.

1165 4:06:55

THE COURT: All right. I'll sustain the objection. Next question.

1166 4:06:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to take you to February, the next month, 2015, to your wedding. Can you please tell the jury about your wedding?

1167 4:07:15

MS. HEARD: We get married in Los Angeles. I get a sense that we were just - it was just that wedding running around Los Angeles, and I was getting married that day and I remember running around. Getting therapy. You know, I got ready and Johnny and I met at the penthouses downtown, and I wore a white dress and a veil I bobby pinned in my hair, and I walked out of that penthouse and 117 met up with - met Johnny in the hallway, and I thought he looked so handsome. And he seemed happy. And I felt we were really making the right decision. I was so looking forward to having this, you know, thought we would get married and we would have stability, g y safety. So I -- we get in the car. We get into, actually, Johnny's car, and for the second time since I've known Johnny, he drove himself, drove us, in his truck. It was weird being in the car with him alone. You know, we didn't have that.

1168 4:08:59

MS. HEARD: And we drove to his mom's house and a justice of the peace arrived looking kind of surprised, and she married us in the living room of his mother's house, Betty Sue, with our families together, my best friend, my mom, his mom.

1169 4:09:22

MS. HEARD: We ate food with the kids, they were there, and we had a wonderful evening and then got up and I got on the plane either the next morning or the day after and flew to Johnny's island, and we hired the -- what we had planned for the better, you know, we had planned for the better part of a year or so, maybe eight months, for this three-day wedding on his island with our close friends, about 12 people, maybe 15 people.

1170 4:10:01

MS. HEARD: And we had had these little houses built, like tents -- not tents, but not houses, these little -- for the guests. We had them built and designed on the island. He had people come out, and it was magic, you know. I was marrying the love of my life. It was complicated, but I thought he was the love of my life. And we had our friends and family out, and we had this three-day event, the first of which -- well, the first night of which was supposed to be he and I separate with our relative parties, so me with the bridal party and him with his fellows.

1171 4:10:51

MS. HEARD: The bridal party, we had planned to do a cuddle puddle, have mushrooms, and drink wine and, you know, have our 0"11, like, you know, girl party separate. And then we'd, the next day, have the wedding festivities. We were going to be married around sunset and on this beach, not the beach that Johnny had named for me, although we -- I think we originally planned on having the ceremony on that beach, but it was changed at some point to the other beach.

1172 4:11:27

MS. HEARD: And we walked down the aisle -- well, the beach aisle and said our vows and the sunset behind us, and we took pictures with our family. And we shot the bird, meaning the middle finger, up at the paparazzi helicopter circling or plane circling around us while we were on the altar. And we danced and celebrated. And then I left the island because I had to go work.

1173 4:11:58

MS. BREDEHOFT: And when you say you left the island because you had to go work; what were you working on that required that?

1174 4:12:03

MS. HEARD: I was filming the Danish Girl in O London, which was the film that I had been in London for in January when Johnny was hallucinating on the phone with me. I was there doing kind of prep work for that film.

1175 4:12:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what, if any, film was Mr. Depp going to, at that point?

1176 4:12:24

MS. HEARD: Well, the plan, why we did the wedding when we did it is because he had always had this commitment to do Pirates 5, and he was going to shoot that in Australia, and I was going to shoot the Danish Girl. And I started the Danish Girl in early February, and he was going to fly out mid February to Australia. So his movie was going to take the majority of the year, meaning until August, so maybe longer, so that the plan was to do it when we did at this time so that we didn't have to wait until the fall the following year. So shortly after I left, Johnny returned to Los Angeles and then flew from Los Angeles on to Australia to shoot PS - Pirates 5. Excuse me.

1177 4:13:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what was the plan for you when you finished with Danish Girl?

1178 4:13:28

MS. HEARD: The plan was always for me to wrap on my movie and then come and join him in Australia, where he was filming PS - Pirates 5.

1179 4:13:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And when, approximately, was that?

1180 4:13:42

MS. HEARD: That was March 3rd.

1181 4:13:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: March 3rd that you wrapped, that you finished with Danish Girl?

1182 4:13:51

MS. HEARD: I believe - I can't recall the exact date, but I believe it was around that time, yes.

1183 4:13:59

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then tell the jury where did you fly to to get to Australia? How long of a turnaround was it for you to get to Australia?

1184 4:14:10

MS. HEARD: It was about a 24-hour - I think it's about 24 hours. I could be mistaken on the exact amount of time. But I remember it's quite a distance from London. I was filming in London; he was filming in Australia. Effectively you have to fly 12 hours, stop, get on a different plane, and fly, I think, around the same amount of time if I'm not mistaken.

1185 4:14:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. When you arrived -- before you finished wrapping with Danish Girl and were heading out shortly before, what, if any, communications did you and Mr. Depp have?

1186 4:14:50

MS. HEARD: Well, at first it was great. Even though we were separated, it was so hard to - it was so hard to leave, you know, leave right after you get married, especially considering that in Johnny and I's relationship, it was so much worse when I went away to work. It just - that's when problems started. So that was hard, but we communicated pretty consistently and it was positive until it started to change. And I got the sense that he thought I was sleeping with the director and then it was with the - the actor I was filming with.

1187 4:15:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: Who was the actor you were filming with?

1188 4:15:38

MS. HEARD: Eddie Redmayne.

1189 4:15:39
1190 4:15:42

MS. HEARD: Of course I - not, of course, I was not. Not that it mattered But, you know, I could do my best to field the accusations, and then they would kind of subside and I thought things were okay. And then the day right before I was supposed to fly to Australia, he, like, right - I think it was the night before I was supposed to leave to go to Australia, he calls my hotel apparently. I had a sense that the phone was ringing. I think I was in the shower at the time. But not much time had passed, and I get a knock on the door and it was someone from the hotel that I was staying at.

1191 4:16:22

MS. HEARD: The hotel staff had been sent up to the room because Johnny -

1192 4:16:24

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Calls for hearsay. And speculation.

1193 4:16:26

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

1194 4:16:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: So don't tell what the staff said.

1195 4:16:30

MS. HEARD: Okay.

1196 4:16:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: What happened next?

1197 4:16:35

MS. HEARD: Then I start communicating with Johnny.

1198 4:16:38

MS. BREDEHOFT: And when you say "started," I mean, was he on the phone? Did you call him? What happened here?

1199 4:16:44

MS. HEARD: He called the room and then my cell phone, and then once I was on the cell phone, he was accusing me of not being in my room so he called the room And I had to prove that I was in the room because, I don't know, by answering the phone. And we had a lengthy, kind of circular conversation about where I was and why I didn't answer the phone -why I didn't answer the phone immediately. He didn't sound like he was connected to reality. It just didn't seem like - to me, it seemed like a previous pattern.

1200 4:17:21

MS. HEARD: I was unsure what to make of it because he wasn't right in front of me, but he was accusing me of what it seemed like as having, I guess, an affair or a reason to not be in the room, that I got a sense was, you know, cheating or, you know, that I was hiding something, and that was why I wasn't answering the phone and hence why I got the knock on the door.

1201 4:17:46
1202 4:17:48

MS. HEARD: That was right before I left.

1203 4:17:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: So as you're heading -- before you headed to Australia, what, if any, requests did ho you make of Mr. Depp for him to get you MDMA?

1204 4:18:01

MS. HEARD: That's ridiculous.

1205 4:18:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: Why is that ridiculous?

1206 4:18:08

MS. HEARD: Because I would never -- since that time I learned my lesson the hard way on the plane to Russia, I would never do MDMA with him.

1207 4:18:19

MS. HEARD: That's -- I'm asking for a problem in that case. Like, that, I would never do that. I 1 s

1208 4:18:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So you flew to Australia and met I with Mr. Depp, right? And I'm going to --

1209 4:18:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can we pull up Defendant's 1809. And, Your Honor, these are some of the pictures that Mr. King, you may recall, was testifying earlier said he had on his phone.

1210 4:18:40

THE COURT: Okay.

1211 4:18:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: And then those were given.

1212 4:18:48

THE COURT: So I don't have these is !

1213 4:18:49

THE COURT: What you're saying?

1214 4:18:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes, Your Honor.

1215 4:18:51

THE COURT: That's fine. 1809?

1216 4:18:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: Correct.

1217 4:18:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm just going to show you a few pictures, Amber. Do you recognize -- and I realize you ! 13 didn't take this photo.

1218 4:19:06

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to move the admission of it, though, Your Honor.

1219 4:19:08

THE COURT: Any objection to 1809?

1220 4:19:09

MS. VASQUEZ: No. Thank you, Your Honor.

1221 4:19:11

THE COURT: Okay. 1809 in evidence. You can publish.

1222 4:19:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Let me pass this up and hand the other side. Try to, given the strangeness of this. May I approach, Your Honor?

1223 4:19:28

THE COURT: Yes. Thank you. I appreciate it.

1224 4:19:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, do you recognize this photo?

1225 4:19:37

MS. HEARD: I do.

1226 4:19:38

MS. BREDEHOFT: And could you tell the jury what this is?

1227 4:19:41

MS. HEARD: That is the driveway leading up to the house that Johnny was renting while shooting Pirates 5.

1228 4:19:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then I'm going to -- I'm going to make this -- try to make it a little faster, and I'm going to go to 1810.

1229 4:20:04

THE COURT: Ms. Bredehoft, if you have a series of photos --

1230 4:20:05
1231 4:20:06

THE COURT: If you want to show counsel what they are, maybe we can get them entered all together, and then you can just --

1232 4:20:12
1233 4:20:12

THE COURT: Go on with your questions.

1234 4:20:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes. In fact -- and these are aR I will represent, ones that we got from Mr. King.

1235 4:20:22

THE COURT: All right. If you want to, take a look at them.

1236 4:20:24

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, if I may just approach, I'll give you the whole stack.

1237 4:20:29

THE COURT: Okay. That's fine.

1238 4:20:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: You can keep that up if you want.

1239 4:20:53

MS. BREDEHOFT: By the way, Amber, do you see kangaroos in there?

1240 4:20:58

MS. HEARD: When I was pulling up to the house, I saw kangaroos as well.

1241 4:21:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: This was a pretty big driveway?

1242 4:21:07

MS. HEARD: It was a pretty-

1243 4:21:07

MS. VASQUEZ: I don't have any objection, sorry.

1244 4:21:09

THE COURT: No objection to any of them? Honor.

1245 4:21:11

MS. VASQUEZ: Don't believe so, Your

1246 4:21:12

THE COURT: Make sure you look through them all too. I just want to make sure because I'll go ahead and read them into the record after you have looked through them all.

1247 4:21:44

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor. I've reviewed them I have no objection to any of these photographs. •8

1248 4:21:48

THE COURT: So I'll enter into evidence Defendant's 1804, 1805, 1806, 1807, 1808, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1814, 1815, 1816, 1817, 1819, 1820, 1821, 1825, 1827, 1828, 1829, 1830, 1831, 1834, 1835, 1837, 1838, 1839, 1840, 1841, and 1842. Did I get them all?

1249 4:22:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: I believe so.

1250 4:22:46

THE COURT: I want to make sure more than believe so. Is that all the evidence? They're all in evidence. So as long as you're going to be referencing those photos, we can keep them on and you can publish them

1251 4:22:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor. Appreciate it.

1252 4:22:58

MS. BREDEHOFT: Whose home was this in Australia?

1253 4:23:05

MS. HEARD: It was like a well-known sportsman, like racing cars or something of that nature.

1254 4:23:17
1255 4:23:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, if you can Is pull up 1810.

1256 4:23:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: Is this another picture from that home?

1257 4:23:31

MS. HEARD: Yes. That looks like it's the view Is from the bathroom.

1258 4:23:36
1259 4:23:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: And then let's go, Michelle, if you can pull up 1811.

1260 4:23:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: Is that a picture of the home?

1261 4:23:49

MS. HEARD: That's the house, yes.

1262 4:23:52
1263 4:23:54

MS. BREDEHOFT: And let's go to 1812.

1264 4:24:02

MS. BREDEHOFT: And that's --

1265 4:24:04

MS. HEARD: That's a view from the living room. It opened into a lagoon.

1266 4:24:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then let's look at 1813. I ,20 guess that's just another view, a little over, of the swimming poo correct?

1267 4:24:32

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1268 4:24:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then let's do one more, 1814. This is inside the house?

1269 4:24:45

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1270 4:24:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. If you can look to the back here where I've got my -- I'm making some -- what, if anything, is that back there?

1271 4:24:54

MS. HEARD: That's the kitchen.

1272 4:24:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: And this is the dining room and this is on the main level?

1273 4:24:58

MS. HEARD: What we're looking at is the dining room table on the main level with the kitchen in the background.

1274 4:25:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Thank you.

1275 4:25:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, I'm going to ask you to take this jury through your experience. What happened in Australia once you arrived there?

1276 4:25:29

MS. HEARD: Well, I was nervous because of the conversations that I had with him before I left. And then in transit, I stopped in Dubai and spoke to him too. So I was a little nervous, but he indicated to me that he wanted me to come. He said, "I miss my wife," at the end of the phone

1277 4:25:54

MS. HEARD: Call that we had in the airport I called him from Dubai. And he - he said, "I miss my wife. I miss my wife."

1278 4:26:08

MS. HEARD: I felt, okay, safe, you know. And I missed him so much. That's all I wanted - all I wanted to do is see my new husband. I flew in. I arrived early. I - immediately, I walked into the bedroom. I was so excited to see him, and he was so - like, he had lost a ton of weight. So I just knew something was up. And he kind of quickly, you know, kissed me and kind of - you know, we had some interaction. It was brief. He was leaving to go work. He had to work that day.

1279 4:26:58

MS. HEARD: But then after he - the plan was he would come back, which he did in the evening, and then he was supposed to have a three-day weekend, a long weekend.

1280 4:27:10

MS. HEARD: So he comes back that evening, and the chef had kind of prepared some things from the fridge, mashed potatoes, I think spinach as well. There were some steaks in the fridge, but he had kind of prepped some of the sides. And I was looking forward to having this kind of, you know, our style at-home date. You know, we had just been -- we're a married couple, and we hadn't seen each other for basically a month after we married. And I start dinner and am happy to see him. And some point early in that evening, he pulls out a bag of MDMA. I asked him what it was, and he told me it was MDMA. And I was surprised because at the time that was, you know, like, there was no question mark as to how I would respond to that, or so I thought. Like, what are you -- why would you even think that that's okay?

1281 4:28:14

MS. HEARD: He had already gotten clean and sober, although it was, you know, touch and go. But, you know, for the wedding, he was drinking Beck's. I think at some point, he did have wine on the island, but it wasn't an issue, just moved ahead. So I was surprised that he would even pull out this bag and well, frankly, not hide it from me. And he kind of seemed to suggest that we should do it together. I was like, "Absolutely not. Like, I just got here. I just got here. I want to see

1282 4:28:49

MS. HEARD: You. I want to spend time with you." And it was the exact opposite of what I expected, what I ,3 wanted, and it just seemed delusional at the time to me that he would even suggest this to be I something that I could participate in with him.

1283 4:29:13

MS. HEARD: If you had been through what I had been through at that point, it's crazy. And at some point, he drinks in front of me. At first I think it was like a Malbec or wine or something, and I remember we hadn't, like, it's -- it kind of started an argument, and that was upstairs in that room that we just looked at a picture of, you know, by the sunflowers, that's more or less where we were standing, just closer to the kitchen. And we get in an argument and I shove past him, just stomp off, and he grabs me. We had an argument about me walking away.

1284 4:29:57

MS. HEARD: Am I walking out of this? And in my head I was like -- I actually wasn't thinking of leaving yet, but that would later be going through my mind. We had a brief interaction, and I don't -- I don't remember the exact sequence of things. I wish I did have a lot of flashes. It gets a little bit more confusing for my ability to recall everything in a linear way a little later on as things got crazier. But for this part, the first night, what I distinctly remember is at one point, I don't think I had gotten very far. Maybe I came back into the room, but he - when he shoved me, I went flying across these parquet floors, I mean just skidding across these floors. And I remember thinking, "It just looks so easy for him to throw me around like that," you know.

1285 4:31:04

MS. HEARD: I - I just slid, screeching my skin against this, like, beautiful wooden floor.

1286 4:31:14

MS. HEARD: We had another argument that was a spinoff from that. It was just kind of this on, off, on, off kind of thing that I remember eventually in this interaction, he shoves me up against the fridge. He has me by the throat, and he just was holding me there by my throat. And I wondered if it was the drugs. I wondered if it was him. It hadn't - in my recollection, hadn't been that long. He has me up against the throat g p g kind of bashing me up against the wall next to the fridge. We're kind of moving in that area.

1287 4:32:04

MS. HEARD: And at some point I'm in his face, and he had - I don't know if he had let go of my neck or loosened my [sic] grip, but I remember slapping him across the face, screaming at him, screaming at me. I got my hand free when he tried to grab me when I walked off. I stormed off. I slammed the door upstairs. I don't know if it was in that instance or the later one where I eventually barricaded the door.

1288 4:32:41

MS. HEARD: You know, it couldn't - it wouldn't stop him from coming in. You could come in the other doors. You know, there's plenty- there's a back door, the patio. But at least I'd hear it. And my-this is March 2015 by this time. I'm being medicated by his doctor. He's giving me anti-anxiety meds, giving me -you know, had already tried to give me antidepressants. They didn't work for obvious reasons, I hope. I wasn't sleeping. I had insomnia. I'd wake up with panic attacks. I needed to sleep, but my ability to do so is really, really compromised at this point. And I kept thinking that I just wanted to hear him or know if he came in so I could be aware, so I could be ready for what was going to come in with ls him.

1289 4:33:36

MS. HEARD: And at some point I go back downstairs.

1290 4:33:39

MS. HEARD: I don't really know at what point I gave up and stayed behind my barricaded door. But I managed to go to sleep. I took some sleeping pills. I woke up and when I came downstairs, he was still up. He confirmed it when I asked him that he had not slept. He had not eaten. So I tried to get him to eat. We get into an argument. He was accusing me of Eddie Redmayne, and by this point, he thought I was working with Billy Bob Thornton on the movie I just shot, but I had already worked with him a year earlier.

1291 4:34:20

MS. HEARD: But he was very upset about him and the gentleman that invited me to a concert in London . You know, my costar, he was upset about these people, even though I had done that movie a year prior.

1292 4:34:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: Who was that?

1293 4:34:36

MS. HEARD: It was Billy Bob Thornton, Jim b Sturgess, and Eddie Redmayne who he was upset about.

1294 4:34:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let me just stop you for a moment. ' Is Have seen Mr. Depp take any drugs by this point?

1295 4:34:47

MS. HEARD: Oh, yeah. Sorry if I left that out, that we really had the argument about the MDMA. He suggested to me that it wasn't on the no-fly list, like it was on the no list. That's what was his argument -- that was his defense. This isn't on -- "You didn't say I couldn't have this." And I'm -- you know, over and over again, Johnny told me I wasn't the reason he was getting sober, but I was the reason he was staying sober. I saved his life and all this stuff.

1296 4:35:17

MS. HEARD: It wasn't like it was my-- it wasn't my job to police him, but I kind of ended up being in that situation, it seemed like, in his mind, you know, when he would express that to me.

1297 4:35:29

MS. HEARD: So he took the -- a handful of pills, ,21 and I didn't count how many, but when I came back downstairs, I did the math on the amount that was left, and I think it was either eight or ten, I can't recall as I sit here now, either eight or ten pills of MDMA.

1298 4:35:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: That he had taken or that were left?

1299 4:35:51

MS. HEARD: I don't know. I remember we had a conversation about the amount that he took. So I remember saying "You" -

1300 4:35:56

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

1301 4:36:01

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

1302 4:36:04

MS. HEARD: There were only a few left in the bag, so I think it was what he took. And I said, "Johnny, that" -

1303 4:36:10

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

1304 4:36:16

MS. HEARD: He confirmed that he took that amount and that he could take that amount.

1305 4:36:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what amount?

1306 4:36:22

MS. HEARD: At this point, there were ten - he had taken ten. Eight or ten, I can't recall.

1307 4:36:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: And when you say "at this point," is that the first night? Is that the second day?

1308 4:36:31

MS. HEARD: This is the second day. This is after I had already fallen asleep for the night in the -----4-5-07 y p g-----4-5-07 _ room upstairs, come back downstairs. He was still awake.

1309 4:36:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Please continue with that second day.

1310 4:36:46

MS. HEARD: He was accusing me of being mean to his sister. He was accusing me of not liking his sister, something about the wedding. I was trying to put out that fire, as you will. I was trying to say, "No, no, no. First of all I'm not filming with Billy Bob. No, I wasn't filming with Jim Sturgess. Yes, I filmed with Eddie Redmayne, but he was lovely, a gentleman."

1311 4:37:12

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

1312 4:37:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: That's not offered for the truth of the matter.

1313 4:37:13

THE COURT: Overruled.

1314 4:37:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

1315 4:37:16

MS. HEARD: Yes. And then when it came up with his sister, he was accusing me of kind of having this animosity with Christi. I tried to defend myself, explaining why her and I had kind of become cold to one another. I don't know how else to describe it because we never had any sort of direct interaction that was negative. We never had any sort of confrontation or anything. But I did my best to explain to him what I could answer to that accusation. And at one point he - oh, I mentioned that - well, I can't say what I mentioned. He, as a result of that phone call, picks up the phone and calls his agent. I don't know why, still to this day. He calls a few people. I don't know who's on the other line; I just heard his side of it, and he's screaming at them.

1316 4:38:15

MS. HEARD: I got a sense that it was money, that he felt people had been stealing money from him and that the studio had been ripping him off and that he was calling himself a, like a whore or he had been whored out.

1317 4:38:29

MS. HEARD: Seemed like he was upset. But I did not, at this point, this was maybe early evening; it was before the sun went down on the second day. I remember he took the phone at one point and called my divorce attorney. I had, at some point prior to this, got a divorce attorney -- not a divorce attorney, a domestic relations attorney to do a postnup because we got married in February, and there wasn't -- there was never any mention or talk from Johnny about a prenup.

1318 4:39:07

MS. HEARD: But I had had interactions with his sister, and so I thought, "Okay, I'll get a lawyer, and let's do a postnup." When Johnny found out about that, or when I reminded him of that in Australia, he went outside and called my divorce attorney and fired her and said the only way out of this was death, again, and I heard that already at this point, March 2015, probably 25 times. So he's screaming at her. He calls his agents. I hear him talking incoherently -- screaming incoherently at my lawyer and his agent.

1319 4:39:53

MS. HEARD: He comes back inside, and I genuinely didn't know if he was still mad at me or if it was about me at all. I didn't know. It didn't seem like it was connected to reality at all. At some point shortly after that, I have been saying to Johnny, "You need to sleep," let's eat some dinner, baby, let's relax. Please, like, calm down. In my head I was thinking that it would genuinely change if he just got some sleep. He needed to sleep it off. He needed to come down off the drugs. Clearly the combination he was hiding from me was not good. of what he had taken pill-wise with whatever else I had recognized that sort of delusion. I'd recognized that sort of unattached-to-reality rage. I had recognized the patterns of those kind of loops where he's yelling about things that aren't even being discussed or talked about. I knew already that he just needed to sleep it off, clean up, you know, sober up. And I thought we could. I put - I remember I went to the fridge. I got out the steaks so that they would, you know, be ready to cook, and I got out some of the food I was going to put together for dinner. I went upstairs.

1320 4:41:10

MS. HEARD: I don't know if I came back down in my nightgown at that point or if that was shortly after, but the next thing I remember is coming downstairs and looking for him. downstairs and looking for him.

1321 4:41:29

MS. HEARD: We had an interaction that I can't really describe. It didn't make a lot of sense to me. He was just belligerent. Belligerent, throwing things, screaming at me. And I realized I was back on the chopping block. I realized it was back. I realized that the arrows were pointed at me again. And I tried to defend myself. I was explaining, you know, trying to say that -

1322 4:41:43

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

1323 4:41:58

MS. BREDEHOFT: Not offered for the truth of the matter. She hasn't even said it yet.

1324 4:42:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: But try not to say what you're saying unless it needs it for context or something. Try to say what he's saying.

1325 4:42:09

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

1326 4:42:10
1327 4:42:13

MS. HEARD: He was just belligerent. I don't know how to describe to you because it wasn't making sense. It wasn't making sense.

1328 4:42:23

MS. HEARD: I don't know how - I don't know how the immediate next, like, string of the next part May 5, 2022 I of the violence actually even initiated, but then he had me up against the wall. I remember this time he slams me up against the wall hard. I mean, I hit my head hard. And this is a wall next to the - I say kitchenette, but it's more of a I remember there were these cooling ,6 bar. fridges, and I remember kind of being slammed up against those. I remember pushing him off of me. I remember the name-calling, the whore, the slut, the fat ass. I remember a lot of name-calling.

1329 4:42:52

MS. HEARD: I said -

1330 4:43:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Had he been drinking by this time?

1331 4:43:24

MS. HEARD: He was drinking -

1332 4:43:25

MS. VASQUEZ: Calls for speculation. Leading.

1333 4:43:27

THE COURT: I'll sustain as to leading.

1334 4:43:30

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, drinks had you observed Mr. Depp have by this time?

1335 4:43:36

MS. HEARD: Well, I had already seen him drink. Right in front of me, took a big swig out of a wine bottle upstairs, right in front of me as a gesture of -- like, looked right at me and took a big swig out of it as a, you know, like a show of -- you know, did it right in my face to make a point. And then when I came downstairs, he was drinking from the bottle. I don't -- I don't know what kind of liquor. I remember there was another bottle open, and I was wondering why was he drinking both.

1336 4:44:13

MS. HEARD: But at some point, he had me up against this -- the wall next to the cooling fridges, and I remember slamming my head up against the thing. He had me by the neck, squeezing my neck, and it got really -- it got really nasty. It went from like, "Oh, no one likes you. No one likes me. Everyone warned me about you." That's what it was. He started to tell me that everyone had warned him about me and that he wished he had never married me, wished he had never met me. No one liked me. You know, it sounds childish, but I remember feeling really hurt. And then at some point, I shove him hard to get him off me, and he shoved me back and he said,"Do you want to go, little girl?"

1337 4:45:17

MS. HEARD: That, I couldn't, as I sit here today, tell you if that happened before he choked me up against the wall, but at some point, I am in a, like, a struggle with him where I'm holding his shirt, lapel, and he kind of just flings me, for lack of a better way to describe it, throws me across the room. I land on the - a games table, like a ping-pong table. And I don't know if I was holding on to him or if he pursued me separate. But he gets on top of me on the games table, and he was just whacking me in the face, like, repetitive.

1338 4:46:07

MS. HEARD: We struggle on the games table. I don't know - I don't know how we get up. I don't know if he pulls me up. I wish I could tell you. But we were in this struggle down in this - this games room by the bar, and we had this conversation about the drinking or argument about the drinking and he holds up this bottle to me, and I'm saying, "Did you drink this whole thing?" Something stupid, focusing on this detail, and he is telling me that I can't control him anymore and that if I really, you know, if I really wanted to, try, take it.

1339 4:47:01

MS. HEARD: And then he's, like, taunting me to take the bottle from him. If I really- if I really want him to stop, why don't I take it from him? Go on, go on. He kept saying, "Go on," and kind of gesturing with the bottle towards me. And, like, he does that two or three times. I reach for it, and he'd revoke it, kind of laugh at me. And he's holding out the bottle. I think, like, maybe the third time or so I get hold of it. I pick it up and I slam it down on the ground, right in between us. It's a tile floor, white tile floor, and I smashed the bottle on the floor. And that really set him off.

1340 4:47:51

MS. HEARD: So stupid Sorry. And he's - it was like a light bulb switch went off. And he starts screaming.

1341 4:48:08

MS. HEARD: I don't know if he backhanded me or hit me normally. I don't really recall, but I remember it sent me down to the ground I remember by the time I picked myself off the floor, I stand up, he's got a bottle in his hand, and he threw it at me. It missed, thankfully, but I kind of pulled myself back into the bar area. I don't know how much time passed, but at some point, he had a broken bottle up against my face/neck area, by my jawline, and he told me he'd carve up my face.

1342 4:48:53

MS. HEARD: I don't know at what point in the evening, I couldn't tell you what, sequence-wise, when that happened, but it was terrifying. It wasn't the first time he said that to me. He said that to me on the plane as well. But this time he was holding a broken bottle to me.

1343 4:49:13

MS. HEARD: I honestly don't remember if I threw anything in his direction. I don't think I did. I just remember him having me by the nightgown. I remember him flailing me, throwing me around. I'm flailing. This is after there were some bottles broken on the floor. This is actually after, again, forgive me. I wish I could remember the sequence, but it's flashes. He's throwing these bottles at me. I remember retreating -- there were also cans, like soda cans, beer or soda cans, and they're coming at me one after the other. And I keep pulling myself into the bar area, there's like a bar behind me in, like, an L shape. He's standing in the only way you can exit from, so I'm kind of trapped in front of the sink surrounded by bar on three sides with him in front of me-ish, kind of off to the left. And he's throwing these bottles one after the other, and I could feel glass breaking behind me. I remember feeling one of them go by my head really fast, like a real velocity. I remember being terrified.

1344 4:50:40

MS. HEARD: I remember I couldn't move. I couldn't go anywhere.

1345 4:50:44

MS. HEARD: I eventually I'm trying to I don't know if he ran out of things to throw. I think that's how I moved myself toward the exit, and I believe that's most likely when we got kind of in this struggle by the bar area. Because I remember my feet slipping on the tile as he was slamming me from the wall to the countertops. At one point, he has me up against the wall and he's punching the wall. He had my, you know, nightgown and kind of ripped it off my chest.

1346 4:51:25

MS. HEARD: I remember at one point, he's teasing me, he's taunting me. He has my breast in his hand. My nightgown came completely off. It was ripped off of me, so I was naked. I was slipping around on this tile and trying to get my footing. I just remember slipping on this tile. Glass was underneath me, and I remember just trying to get my footing, you know. I felt really destabilized, and I felt really vulnerable and naked.

1347 4:52:02

MS. HEARD: He threw me around, and at some point, I'm up against the wall and he's screaming at me that he fucking hates me, that I ruined his life. I remember that I ruined his life, over and over. Then he starts punching the wall next to my head, holding me by the neck. I get free from him. I kind of step back from him, and it's like his energy shifted to the phone. There was a wall-mounted phone on the wall next to where my head was. And he went from punching the wall to, like, realizing there's a phone there, and he , g p , picked up the phone and he's screaming.

1348 4:52:46

MS. HEARD: He said (demonstrating), like, at the top of his lungs, screaming, "I fucking hate you. I fucking hate you. You ruined my fucking life," and screaming at the top of his lungs, picks up the phone and starts bashing the phone against the wall, against the wall like where I was just being held. And I remember kind of having some distance on what was happening and watching him do this, O and it was like his energy had shifted and I was that phone all of a sudden.

1349 4:53:14

MS. HEARD: And he was just over and over again, smashing this phone into the wall, over and over again screaming at me, and I was watching the phone every single time he pulled his hand back, it was just breaking into pieces. I remember thinking, "This phone is disappearing. He's smashing it to smithereens, just going into the wall."

1350 4:53:38

MS. HEARD: And at some point he's on top of me, no phone, but screaming the same thing. "I fucking hate you. You ruined my fucking life." I'm on the countertop, and he had me by the neck, and he felt like he was on top of me. And I'm looking at his -- in his eyes, and I don't see him anymore. I don't see him anymore. It wasn't him It was black. I've never been so scared in my life. It was black. I couldn't see him And he was looking at me, and I was trying to get through to him I was trying to say to him in some way that it was me. I was trying to get through to Johnny, and I couldn't see him I !! 11 couldn't see him at all. And my head was bashing against the back of the bar, and I couldn't I breathe.

1351 4:54:46

MS. HEARD: And I remember trying to get up and I was slipping on the glass, my feet were slipping, my arms were slipping on the countertop. I remember just trying to get up so I could tell him that he was really hurting me. I didn't think he knew what he was doing. I don't know how -- sorry. I'm sorry. I couldn't breathe. I don't -- I didn't want to do this. I didn't want to do this. I mean, I couldn't -- I couldn't I breathe. I couldn't get through to him I couldn't -- I couldn't get up. I couldn't get up. And I don't know how that ended. I don't know -- I don't know how -- I don't know what happened next. I think when I -- the next thing I remember, I was bent over backwards on the bar, meaning my chest was up. I was staring at the blue lights, and my chest was on this -- my back was on the (indiscernible), and I felt he was punching me. He was -- I'm sorry. He was -- I felt this pressure. I felt this pressure. (Indiscernible) he was punching me.

1352 4:57:16

MS. HEARD: 13 I could feel his arm moving, and it looked like he was punching me. I could just feel this pressure. I was thinking I didn't know if I was feeling pain, it was just the pressure in my pubic bone. I don't know. I don't remember what I said. I just remember being really still, not I wanting to move. I remember looking around the room I remember looking at all the broken bottles, broken glass. And I remember just not wanting to move because I didn't know if it was broken. I didn't know if the bottle that he had inside me was broken. I couldn't feel it. I couldn't feel it. I didn't feel pain. I didn't feel pain. I didn't feel anything. I just -- I didn't want it. I didn't -- I looked around, and I saw so much broken glass that I didn't know. I didn't know if he would know -- I didn't know if he would know if it was broken or not.

1353 4:59:06

MS. HEARD: And I just remember thinking, "Please, God, please, I hope it's not broken." I don't know how that ended. I don't know how I got off the countertop. I just remember being in the bathroom I remember retching. I remember the sound my voice was making. I remember I lost control of my bladder. I remember just retching. I remember there was blood on the floor. I got up some way. I don't know how that night ended. I don't remember what happened. I don't remember.

1354 5:00:26

MS. HEARD: I have a memory of him begging me not to leave. I remember going outside the front door. I remember him coming out to the front area, but I don't remember if that was before or after this. I . don't remember. I just have that memory. I remember taking a bunch of sleeping pills -- not a bunch, like, two, which is a lot for me. I remember falling asleep or -- I don't remember falling asleep, but I know I fell asleep because I woke up the next day. I assume it was late morning.

1355 5:01:19

MS. HEARD: I could hear him downstairs. I could hear Marilyn Manson music, not in person, I could hear the music. Maybe he said it was Marilyn, or maybe I could recognize, I don't remember. But I became aware that's what I was hearing. It was blaring. It came clear, obvious to me when I walked downstairs that he was still up, hadn't gone to sleep again. I walked downstairs, and I saw this brown on the walls, going down the stairs, and the brown on the walls became clear, like, it became clear, like lettering. And then it was obvious it was dry blood.

1356 5:02:13

MS. HEARD: He had written down the stair, spiral staircase, like white cream walls. There's blood on the carpet. I could see blood drips.

1357 5:02:25

MS. HEARD: I thought it was from my arms or feet, but it was drips. So that, plus the wall writing, I saw the brown letters on the wall and then realized that he was trying -- that that was meant to be a message, but it was incoherent. I saw what looked like my name, but I really couldn't make out most of the rest of the message, walking down the stairs.

1358 5:02:55

MS. HEARD: I saw a bird in the house, which was surreal. I went down to the main level where my painting studio was and I had some canvasses out.

1359 5:03:07

MS. HEARD: And that was in the living room area. And oh, by the time I got down to the bottom of the stairs, the dried blood had been kind of taken over by a paint. It was blue, navy blue paint, and then brown paint. And then it was, you know, on the walls, on the lamp shades, pillow cases of the sofa, the sofa cushions. There was blood. In the painting studio, the paint -- my 120 canvas had been covered with what looked like just brown, blue, green, red mess. It was just a mess. There was a painting that had -- you know a painting that the owners had that had, you know, like giant penis on it, and you know, some other things, like a table overturned, a bunch of broken glass on that -- on that floor.

1360 5:04:07

MS. HEARD: I walked downstairs where I heard the music coming from, and that's where I found him blaring his music. He was in the study, which is in the -- by the bar, games table area off to the side, and it was just glass and blood and broken windows and -- a broken window, and just it looked like a mess. The table was collapsed, and I walked into the study. There was a couple unbroken empty bottles. I remember wondering where they came from. And he just looked -- wasn't there anymore. He wasn't there. It wasn't Johnny. He was standing at the office desk.

1361 5:05:00

MS. HEARD: He had his hand wrapped in this, like, rags or, you know, bandanna rags, and I think he took them down or somehow showed me, and he said, "Look what you made me do. I did this for you," something to that effect. And I kind of put together it was covered in paint, and I put together that that's, like, he was using his finger. I quickly became aware that that's what he was using as a paintbrush, even though there was lots of paint brushes around. And we didn't have any sort of coherent conversation, as you can imagine.

1362 5:05:43

MS. HEARD: I figured out he was missing a finger. He sort of held it up, and I said, "What did you do? What did you do? When?" I realized in my head that there had been many hours since this probably happened, assuming that that was what happened with the phone. And in any case, I knew it had been way too long that he had had this blood -- you know, that he was bleeding, and I said, "I'm going to call 911 if you don't call Jerry now." I don't-- I still don't recall which of us called Jerry Judge, his security.

1363 5:06:25

MS. HEARD: At some point we went upstairs. He came upstairs, but he went up to the third floor while I was in the main floor, the entry-level floor. I went to make him a cup of coffee because he was demanding more Red Bull and I was he was demanding more Red Bull, and I was thinking, "That's probably not a good idea." I don't know why coffee would be so much better, but in my head it was. I thought maybe it would sober him up. I don't know. Help was coming though.

1364 5:06:56

MS. HEARD: I remember I made him coffee. As soon as I handed it to him, he threw it at the TV and started screaming again. It was like back to -- back to square one. Shortly after that, security arrives. I don't know how long, maybe a few O second or minutes went by, not long, but they kind of find Johnny, or Johnny finds them walking out of the front door. And they were trying to figure out what was going on.

1365 5:07:25

MS. HEARD: And as they were kind of looking at him and I and trying to figure out what the heck was going on, Johnny took his penis out of his pants and started peeing -- trying to pee or peeing outside of the house, saying he had more messages for me. And this was kind of in front of security, and they kind of just, like, looked at each other, looked at him and not laughed but kind of half, you know, played it off and corralled on May 5, 2022 I mm -- it was how it looked; it was like corralling a wild animal -- back into the house with, you know, with his penis still out of his pants, peeing or trying to pee.

1366 5:08:06

MS. HEARD: That's what he was indicating, and he went to the wall of the house. And I remember him standing at the wall, trying to leave me more -- saying he was gonna -- he had more information for me. He was going to leave me more message -- more messages, more information for me. It made no sense.

1367 5:08:24

MS. HEARD: And Jerry Judge, his security, and one of the nurses, shortly after, I think they put me I in the theater room, but shortly after I remember talking to one of the nurses, and she was trying to give me drugs to sedate me.

1368 5:08:42

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

1369 5:08:44

MS. BREDEHOFT: Trying to give her drugs. She didn't saying any --

1370 5:08:45

THE COURT: Overruled.

1371 5:08:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you Keep going Thank you. Keep going.

1372 5:08:54

MS. HEARD: And I just remember crying and rejecting what they were trying to give me and fighting with them about how much they were trying to give me. I felt like I needed to figure out what was happening with my life, what was happening with Johnny. I didn't know if he was okay. I didn't know -- I actually had no idea, like, could this be something he could die from? If anything, just the drugs and the alcohol, I mean, that alone, I didn't -- I just remember being scared and being in the theater room, this dark theater room, and not knowing what the heck was going on.

1373 5:09:43

MS. HEARD: And I eventually was taken up to my room by one of the nurses, and they -- I'm sorry, Debbie, and or suggesting I go up to my room. I went up to my room, and I took a quarter of what she was trying to get me to take, and I eventually fell asleep. I came back downstairs to look for my phone, which Johnny had picked up before security came in. He picked up my phone and said, "We're going to get to the bottom of this." Now, he wasn't making any sense at the time. Understandably, just different. Nothing made sense. But he picked up my phone and said, "We're going to get to the -- I'm going to prove this. We're going to get to this. We're going to get to the proof of this," something like that. I don't remember exact words, and he pushed record on my phone. I didn't actually at the time think that he had done that. I had no idea.

1374 5:10:50

MS. HEARD: But I did know that I didn't have my phone when I woke up and I went downstairs to get it. He was on the dining room table by where Jerry Judge as sitting. Jerry Judge was on the phone and talked to me, and I went back up to bed, took more of this sedative and fell asleep, and then I think the next day went to the closet and took out the clothes that he hadn't painted on. I guess when he went back upstairs, he had, like, looked like what he had done is dip his hand in a bucket of paint and just wiped it on my clothes.

1375 5:11:34

MS. HEARD: And he had picked up another portion of my clothes and put them in the bathtub. I don't know if he added paint or if he just had touched them with paint. But there was this ugly, navy blue, brown paint. I packed what was packable, well, hadn't been destroyed, and eventually left Australia with Ben King, who you met. On the way there--

1376 5:12:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let me stop you there because I want to ask you more questions about those three days, and then we can talk about Ben King and going home. IO So do you recall what bottle Mr. Depp was drinking from and then had the back-and-forth with you and you threw on the ground?

1377 5:12:21

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Compound. Leading.

1378 5:12:24

THE COURT: Sustained.

1379 5:12:25

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall what the bottle was?

1380 5:12:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: Liquor?

1381 5:12:27

MS. HEARD: No, I don't.

1382 5:12:29

MS. HEARD: Do you recall whether it was wine or It was liquor. Do you recall -- Because the wine was upstairs.

1383 5:12:38

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall what color it was?

1384 5:12:46

MS. HEARD: Well, I believe it was white -- I mean, clear. But I can't be certain. I think it was clear.

1385 5:12:52

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you remember whether it had a handle on it or not?

1386 5:12:55

MS. HEARD: No. It was a normal bottle. Like, I Is remember because he was holding it like this and gestured to me to take it. And I did try to reach ho for the bottle. It was a normal size, but for the In life of me, I can't remember, like, what brand.

1387 5:13:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. When you woke up that third I morning and came out of your room, what, if any, I food did you see?

1388 5:13:20

MS. HEARD: Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

1389 5:13:22

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. I 1 7 Leading.

1390 5:13:24

THE COURT: Overruled.

1391 5:13:26

MS. HEARD: There was mashed potatoes smeared all over the bedroom door and on the wall in various places. But I remember opening the door and being really confused at first as to what it was. It had little specks of green in it I assume to be spinach. And throughout the house, there was food rubbed in places, just countertops, walls, doors, as I mentioned. And later that evening, I found the raw meat that I had left out, the steak, all over the house, there were pieces of it. It was cut up. And he had ripped my nightgown into pieces, into shreds and wrapped the meat up, like, wrapped the steak pieces up with my nightgown. It was this beautiful burgundy silk nightgown that had this black lace trim.

1392 5:14:29

MS. HEARD: I ironically got it from Dr. Kipper for a wedding gift. And it was wrapped -- I found it -- I continued to find it throughout the rest of the time I was in the house in Australia. There were pieces of it in the microwave, pieces of it in the produce drawer, in the closet drawer. I mean, just raw, raw meat wrapped up in my nightgown as well as the smeared food on the walls. It was bizarre, to put it mildly.

1393 5:15:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if anything, do you recall seeing on any monitors?

1394 5:15:12

MS. HEARD: Oh, he had written on the bathroom mirrors, in the bedroom. And I believe -- there was another mirror. I just don't recall which bathroom it was in. I suppose it was the one that I went to which was on the very bottom level where I was retching, for lack of a better way to describe it. I think it was in that bathroom that he also wrote on that mirror as well.

1395 5:15:42

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if anything, do you recall --

1396 5:15:45

MS. HEARD: In blood and paint. I'm sorry.

1397 5:15:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry. What, if anything, do you recall any lampshade being written on?

1398 5:15:50

MS. HEARD: Well, messages to me, you know, things to the effect of "Go getter," you know, "whore," sort of things, that sort of language. But calling me easy, calling me a slut, calling me, you know, just things about ego and what a whore I was. But it was hard to make sense of it because it was clear he was just out of his mind. I mean, he wrote on the back of a pillow in blood. You can tell because it dries, like, in this ugly brown color. He wrote on the walls going downstairs.

1399 5:16:41

MS. HEARD: It took on -- in fact, you could see where he -- it looked like he had run out of blood because the messages became -- the markings became clearly letters, and the letters kind of became, like, I could see where he had clearly run out of blood or it wasn't bleeding enough and went and got paint and then it became paint and blood. You could see both. You could see where he went back with it, same with the mirrors. I could see where all the dried blood was, and then I could see a different set of markings with paint and some other material.

1400 5:17:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: So I'm going to go back to the time in the bar, and I know this is very painful.

1401 5:17:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall what Mr. Depp was saying to you when he had the bottle and was pushing it against your pubic bone?

1402 5:17:34

MS. HEARD: He said that he would fucking kill me. He said, "I'll fucking kill you."

1403 5:17:44

MS. HEARD: He said it to me over and over again.

1404 5:17:49

MS. HEARD: He said, "I'll fucking kill you."

1405 5:17:54

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you bleed from the vagina as well?

1406 5:17:59

MS. HEARD: I did.

1407 5:18:01

MS. BREDEHOFT: And did you experience any pain later?

1408 5:18:06

MS. HEARD: I didn't - I wasn't thinking about that. I was heartbroken. Eventually, I realized that I could be hurt because I was bleeding. But I - I convinced myself it wasn't broken and that I - that the bottle wasn't broken or else it would be a lot worse, and the discomfort I was feeling afterwards just paled in comparison to how scared, shocked, I was. I'm scared. I just married this man. I just married him.

1409 5:19:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: And forgive me for asking this, but I need to just make sure the record's clear. You were penetrated up the vagina into the pubic bone; is that correct?

1410 5:19:14

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Leading.

1411 5:19:17

THE COURT: Sustained.

1412 5:19:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, penetration was there in your vagina with the bottle?

1413 5:19:21

MS. HEARD: I can't believe I have to do that.

1414 5:19:25

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

1415 5:19:34

MS. HEARD: Johnny had the bottle inside of me and was shoving it inside of me over and over again. e 15

1416 5:19:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you experience any cuts on other /6 parts of your body?

1417 5:19:58

MS. HEARD: My forearms were cut. My bottoms of my feet were sliced up pretty good.

1418 5:20:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have any other bruising or swelling?

1419 5:20:08

MS. HEARD: I had a bruise across my jaw, I suppose, from the - one of the many times he clocked me in the face downstairs. I think - I think I just didn't make a record of any- anything else.

1420 5:20:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to turn to -- let's go to 1810 -- well, actually, let's go to 1815.

1421 5:20:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, if you can, bring that up, Defendant's 1815. And I think these are all in, Your Honor, so can we publish?

1422 5:21:05

THE COURT: Yes, you can publish.

1423 5:21:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: Is this the game table?

1424 5:21:16

MS. HEARD: Yes, it is.

1425 5:21:17

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And is this -- based on your testimony, is this where you were -- were you on top of this table?

1426 5:21:24

MS. HEARD: Yeah. He briefly got on top of me and was pushing on my throat, actually, at some point when I was on the table. I had forgotten about that. And this, though, looks like it is after a lot of the stuff was cleaned up because it didn't look quite like this.

1427 5:21:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Did the table collapse?

1428 5:21:54

MS. HEARD: Yes, it did.

1429 5:21:55

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Leading.

1430 5:21:56

THE COURT: Sustained.

1431 5:21:58

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if anything, happened to the table?

1432 5:22:00

MS. HEARD: The table collapsed underneath me when Johnny threw me into it and got a top of me or fell on top of me. I honestly don't know which one.

1433 5:22:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: If we could look at 1816, please, Defendant's.

1434 5:22:25

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this, what's depicted in this picture?

1435 5:22:44

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1436 5:22:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: What is it?

1437 5:22:52

MS. HEARD: Looks like the bottles that were by Johnny on the desk when I came up that last morning and he was still up, still drinking.

1438 5:23:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: If we could, go to Defendant's 1817.

1439 5:23:14

MS. HEARD: The bottle shape, the bottle shape.

1440 5:23:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry. Go ahead.

1441 5:23:21

MS. HEARD: I don't - I have -

1442 5:23:24

MS. BREDEHOFT: Go back to 1816, please.

1443 5:23:27

MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, I'm confused. Is there a question?

1444 5:23:30

THE COURT: Do you want to ask a question?

1445 5:23:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: What more do you recall about the picture?

1446 5:23:36

MS. HEARD: You had - I'm sorry. It took me a minute to respond because it's hard -- it took me a minute to respond because I had not remembered seeing the bottle that Johnny was using on me. I hadn't -- I didn't have a memory of seeing it, and Is this picture, I wasn't aware of until just the other day, yesterday -- the day before. And I felt my stomach tighten up, like I was going to be Is sick when I saw it.

1447 5:24:23

MS. HEARD: Because even though I didn't remember seeing the bottle, what I had remembered is a pressure, like something square, which is why I thought he was punching me because I feel -- I was feeling a square, something firm hitting me, like butting up against my pubic bone over and over again. I felt that pressure against my bone. It felt like a flat surface.

1448 5:24:53

MS. HEARD: But I -- when I realized it was an object or bottle and not his fist, which is what I thought, you know, because his arm, I could see his arm while he was holding me down, saying he was going to kill me, but I thought he was -- you know, his arm looked like he was punching me. And I hadn't seen this bottle. I didn't know. And then this came out in Ben's evidence, because he didn't share it until this date of this trial.

1449 5:25:03

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor.

1450 5:25:13

THE COURT: Sustained.

1451 5:25:23

MS. HEARD: And so I recognize it.

1452 5:25:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. All right. Now let's go to Defendant's 1817.

1453 5:25:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this area or this picture?

1454 5:25:52

MS. HEARD: Yes. It looks like one area of the bar. Obviously, this is sometime later because all the liquid is dried up. It was quite slippery. I was slipping all over that tile; that's how I know.

1455 5:26:07
1456 5:26:07

MS. HEARD: Looks like a lot of the glass has been I cleaned up almost.

1457 5:26:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then let's go to 1818. Actually, I think --

1458 5:26:22

THE COURT: I'm sorry, which -- that's not in evidence.

1459 5:26:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yeah, that's a duplicate. Let's go to 1819. My apologies.

1460 5:26:30

THE COURT: Okay.

1461 5:26:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this?

1462 5:26:39

MS. HEARD: Yes, I do.

1463 5:26:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: What is this?

1464 5:26:44

MS. HEARD: This is close to where my feet were when I was dangling off the counter, when he had me on the countertop by my neck. My feet were slipping on the tile, and I just remember my feet - I remember feeling glass underneath my feet and slipping. I couldn't get up, couldn't alleviate the pressure on my neck because he was crushing me. That's around that - not around, that's next to that. All the way at the end of the picture is the bar where I was standing when he was throwing bottles at me.

1465 5:27:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can we go to 1820.

1466 5:27:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize what's depicted here, the area?

1467 5:27:47

MS. HEARD: Yes. That's - to the left would be the - where the wall-mounted phone was, right to the left of that. To the right of that is the little L-shaped bar that I was telling you about where I was trapped.

1468 5:28:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: And when you say "to the left of the wall" --

1469 5:28:07

MS. HEARD: L'I'm sorry.

1470 5:28:08

MS. BREDEHOFT: What do you mean? Is it off the picture or on the picture?

1471 5:28:10

MS. HEARD: So if you're looking at this picture, imagine up and to the left at person height. It was like a - I don't know if it was antique, but kind of looked old-fashioned, like an old-fashioned heavy - it looked heavy; I didn't pick up the receiver. But it looked heavy when I was watching it break, you know, it looked like this really heavy glass, this really thick, heavy, not plastic but, like, a BIC lighter, something heavy material on it. That's my best guess. So that would have been to the left, and then to the right would have been the very end of the bar that you just saw a picture of.

1472 5:28:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Let's go to 1821, Defendant's.

1473 5:29:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you recognize what's depicted in this photo?

1474 5:29:12

MS. HEARD: Yes. That's the bar that I was just l talking about.

1475 5:29:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, I see a phone on the right side. Is that the phone you were talking about?

1476 5:29:19

MS. HEARD: No, that's not. This is a wall-mounted phone. That's a landline.

1477 5:29:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: And you see straight ahead at the I very -- if you look straight ahead at the picture, ! on the top part of that, it appears to be some broken glass. Do you recall -- what do you recall of ! I that?

1478 5:29:45

MS. HEARD: I recall more than just this window being broken. This is one of the windows that he broke when he was throwing things at me. My body was standing in front of that little kitchen sink you see at the end of the picture. I suppose that's some of the glass I felt, though, on the back of my arms, like when the window shattered.

1479 5:30:08

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Let's go to 1822.

1480 5:30:15

THE COURT: 1822, I don't have in evidence. 1822 is not in evidence.

1481 5:30:20

MS. BREDEHOFT: My apologies. That's exactly why I just went over here.

1482 5:30:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to 1825, is that the next one, Your Honor?

1483 5:30:28

THE COURT: 1825 is in evidence. I'm not sure if it's --

1484 5:30:33
1485 5:30:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this picture?

1486 5:30:41

MS. HEARD: Yes. That's where Johnny was standing when I found him the last morning - that morning. It might have been, like, mid day. When I say morning, it was after I woke up. It was certainly not early morning. And he was standing at that desk, behind the desk, with the Manson blaring when I found him and told him that I was going to call 911 if he didn't call Jerry.

1487 5:31:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: If you look in this picture, there appears to be a lampshade down below. Do you recognize that lampshade down below the table?

1488 5:31:20

MS. HEARD: That's one of the lampshades Johnny wrote threats, or messages, to me on.

1489 5:31:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Then let's go to 1827.

1490 5:31:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this?

1491 5:31:48

MS. HEARD: Yes, I do. That's my painting studio. So when I walked downstairs and saw all the blood on the walls, I walked into this room first. That's where the - the stairs empty into this room and kind of my painting area. And those are the canvasses that he repainted.

1492 5:32:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you see, if you look by the white, the white table-clothed table to the right of that, do you see a lampshade there?

1493 5:32:23

MS. HEARD: Yes. I don't know if that's the same lampshade or another one.

1494 5:32:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Then let's go to 1828.

1495 5:32:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you recognize what's in that one?

1496 5:32:44

MS. HEARD: I do. Those are my- were my paintings that I don't know when he did that, if it was before or after the writing on the walls, but he just ruined them.

1497 5:33:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: So I just want to make sure. So the painting canvas that's dark colored, there's two of them there.

1498 5:33:15

MS. HEARD: Well, there's - yeah, there's two or three. And then there's a smaller one in the center. And that was his daughter I was trying to paint a portrait of, and that was untouched.

1499 5:33:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: And then but just so we're clear, the one directly in front of you, that looks like it's just a lot of dark colors, was that dark colors before or?

1500 5:33:44

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Leading.

1501 5:33:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: I said, "Was that dark colors before?"

1502 5:33:48

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

1503 5:33:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, change was there on that canvas?

1504 5:33:54

MS. HEARD: Well, I'm a terrible painter, but I'm not that bad. That wasn't my painting. That was the start of a portrait, and he changed it dramatically.

1505 5:34:06

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then to the right side on the other side of -- more to the right than the one you already testified to, is that what that picture looked like before? Or is that --

1506 5:34:19

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Leading.

1507 5:34:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, changes were there to that picture?

1508 5:34:26

MS. HEARD: Well, the three canvasses were portraits, so they looked similar to the one that's in the center that I was doing of his daughter.

1509 5:34:38

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And the white that's below, what, if any, changes were there to that? The white canvas that you see there.

1510 5:34:45

MS. HEARD: It just looks like the painting was - it looks like once he destroyed the -

1511 5:34:51

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Calls for ! 18 speculation.

1512 5:34:53

THE COURT: All right. Sustained.

1513 5:34:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: Was there anyone else in the house besides Mr. Depp and you?

1514 5:34:59

MS. HEARD: Not that I know of, no. And no one was I around.

1515 5:35:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Do you have any reason to believe somebody other than Mr. Depp did this?

1516 5:35:07

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Leading.

1517 5:35:09

THE COURT: Sustained.

1518 5:35:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, reason do you believe that Mr. Depp did this?

1519 5:35:15

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. lo if any.

1520 5:35:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: That was not -- what,

1521 5:35:18

THE COURT: What's the objection.

1522 5:35:20

MS. VASQUEZ: Leading.

1523 5:35:22

THE COURT: No. I'll overrule that objection.

1524 5:35:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Thank you.

1525 5:35:25

MS. HEARD: It was Johnny and I in the house over the course of those three days, roughly, and there might have been somebody, his assistant or something, come on the first day or second day. I can't recall. So for the majority of the - I mean for the entirety of what I've been describing to you, it was Johnny and I in that house.

1526 5:35:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: And did you do any of this? Did you cause any of this damage?

1527 5:35:51

MS. HEARD: No. No.

1528 5:35:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm also going to -- take a look at the white tablecloth to the right there.

1529 5:36:00

MS. HEARD: And, also, Johnny was covered in paint, so to answer your question fully, that's also how I know.

1530 5:36:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. So I'm also just going to O draw your attention to that white tablecloth over there. Does it appear to have some paint on that as well?

1531 5:36:24

MS. HEARD: Yes. There was paint all over the place, to say it plainly.

1532 5:36:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, the painting that you indicated, there was a large penis, I believe. Where was that?

1533 5:36:37

MS. HEARD: I believe it was just - like in you're looking at this - I believe it was on the wall, almost right next to the painting directly center that we're looking at. That's my best recollection, but I can't be entirely sure.

1534 5:36:52

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Let's go to 1828.

1535 5:37:00

THE COURT: I think that was 1828.

1536 5:37:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: Oh, 1829, my apologies.

1537 5:37:09

MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you recognize this photo?

1538 5:37:14

MS. HEARD: Yes, I do.

1539 5:37:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what was this?

1540 5:37:18

MS. HEARD: This is one of the lampshades that Johnny chose as a medium to leave me messages in blood and paint.

1541 5:37:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Let's go to 1830.

1542 5:37:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this?

1543 5:37:42

MS. HEARD: Yes. That's one of the bathroom mirrors.

1544 5:37:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And if you could just look to the left, and I'm going to go ahead and circle it over here, you see red and black there; would you agree?

1545 5:38:02

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1546 5:38:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And there were some questions that were asked earlier about that red.

1547 5:38:09

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if anything, did you write on this mirror?

1548 5:38:14

MS. HEARD: I didn't write anything on the mirrors. I'm as confused as anyone in hearing that testimony.

1549 5:38:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: And based on looking at this area that I have circled, is the black on top or underneath •6 the red?

1550 5:38:33

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Calls for speculation. Leading.

1551 5:38:43

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection. You know what? This might be a good time to take a break. Why don't we go ahead and take our afternoon break? Ladies and gentlemen, let's go ahead and have our break. Do not discuss the testimony with anybody, and don't do any outside research. We'll come back here in 15 minutes.

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury exited the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

1553 5:39:19

THE COURT: All right. So we'll come back at 4:02, okay?

1554 5:42:54

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank.you, Your Honor.

1555 5:47:37

THE COURT: All right. Thank you.

1556 5:50:23

COURT BAILIFF: All rise.

1557 5:53:09

COURT BAILIFF: (Recess taken from 3:46 p.m. to 4:01 p.m.) All rise. Please be seated and come to order.

1558 5:55:55

THE COURT: All right. Before we get the jury, I just want to see -- talking with Sammy, is Friday, May 27th? We don't usually meet on Fridays, but is that an okay day to have trial on that Friday? It's the Friday before Memorial Day. I want to check with the jury, but I want to check with you first. That will actually be closing argument day for anybody that wants to know. So I want to make sure I keep track, but if it's good with the jury, I just want to make sure Okay. All back?

1559 5:56:08

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor. --

1560 5:56:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: That works for me, Your Honor.

MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, may we approach.

THE COURT: Okay. Sure.

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

MS. VASQUEZ: So, Your Honor, perhaps the witness misspoke, but she did say that yesterday or the day before, she looked at some photographs. I just wanted, on the record, that clear instruction is given to her, especially in light of the break that we're having, that she's O not supposed to be talking to the attorney about her testimony. Perhaps she misspoke, but she did say she looked --

THE COURT: I assume she saw them before she was on.

MS. BREDEHOFT: She did. She misspoke.

MS. VASQUEZ: At the end of the day I'll do that again, but I don't need her commenting on the evidence or evidentiary issues. That's the second time it's happened.

MS. BREDEHOFT: I realize that, Your Honor, but I can't talk to her.

THE COURT: I know you can't talk to y her, but you can tell her not to talk about evidentiary issues. That's not her testimony.

THE COURT: Don't you agree?

MS. VASQUEZ: Yes, Your Honor, and that's why I wanted to raise --

THE COURT: If you want to talk to her about that right now real quick or something, I just can't talk about things in front of the jury that we discuss outside the jury, and there's a reason we do things outside the jury's presence.

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. I'll go tell her that right now. Thanks, Your Honor.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

THE COURT: All right. You ready for the jury?

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury entered the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

THE COURT: All right. Thank you. Have a seat.

THE COURT: Your next questions, ma'am

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

1582 5:58:54

MS. BREDEHOFT: 1: ,6 Michelle, if you can bring back up 1830 for a moment. 1830, I'm sorry.

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

1584 5:59:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, we were talking about this right before the break It still has my highlight.

1585 5:59:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: Which color is underneath the other?

1586 5:59:26

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Calls for speculation.

1587 5:59:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: Based on your perception, which color is under --

1588 5:59:33

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

1589 5:59:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Let's do this: Let's bring up Defendant's 375, which is already into evidence.

1590 5:59:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: I think I need to clear that highlight, Your Honor, but I don't have the control on mine. There we go. Thank you.

1591 6:00:03

THE COURT: It's in the top right corner if you need it, but that's fine.

1592 6:00:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you. There it is. My menu was hidden.

1593 6:00:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, I'm going to ask you to take a look at -- this is a picture we saw earlier, and s do you see the area that's written in red here? ,6

1594 6:00:21

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1595 6:00:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. What, if anything, did you have Is to do with the writing of that red?

1596 6:00:28

MS. HEARD: Nothing.

1597 6:00:30

MS. BREDEHOFT: Before this trial, did you know who Carly Simon was?

1598 6:00:36

MS. HEARD: I might have heard her music, but, no, I didn't.

1599 6:00:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Did you know what songs Carly Simon wrote or sang?

1600 6:00:45

MS. HEARD: No. You had to tell me.

1601 6:00:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Thank you. All right. And then, if you can just remember this picture, again, the red area there that I've circled --

1602 6:00:53

MS. HEARD: Uh-huh.

1603 6:00:58

MS. BREDEHOFT: And then I'm going to ask Michelle to take this one down and put 1830 back up And I'm going to ask you to take a look at this.

1604 6:01:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you -- what, if anything, did you do to this mirror with respect to the black or the red?

1605 6:01:26

MS. HEARD: I didn't touch it.

1606 6:01:30

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And what, if any, pictures did you take?

1607 6:01:36

MS. HEARD: I took a picture of the - it was the picture we had right before this is the one I took because it was in the bathroom where I found my clothes in the tub and stuff like that.

1608 6:01:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And that's -- let's go to 374, please.

1609 6:02:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: That's already in evidence.

1610 6:02:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: Is that this picture you're referring to?

1611 6:02:14

MS. HEARD: Yes, it is.

1612 6:02:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And I'm sorry. I just want to make sure that I understand. What else was in this bathroom where this mirror was?

1613 6:02:23

MS. HEARD: The bathtub and another mirror, which also had writing on it. The bathtub had a few of my clothes in it and paint, and both of the two mirrors were painted. I believe I took a picture of both mirrors.

1614 6:02:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then I'm going to ask you, Michelle, if you can bring us back to 1831.

1615 6:02:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: And did you take this picture?

1616 6:03:01
1617 6:03:01

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And do you see in the mirror there, can you see the bathtub in the back there?

1618 6:03:09

MS. HEARD: Yes, I can.

1619 6:03:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: Was that the bathtub you're referring to?

1620 6:03:13

MS. HEARD: Yes, it is.

1621 6:03:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: And that had your clothes in it?

1622 6:03:17

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Leading.

1623 6:03:18

THE COURT: Sustained.

1624 6:03:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry.

1625 6:03:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if anything, did it have in the bathtub?

1626 6:03:22

MS. HEARD: Few of my clothes with paint on them.

1627 6:03:25
1628 6:03:28

MS. HEARD: You can see them. I think that's what I see in the corner of the mirror.

1629 6:03:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then let's go to 377 for a moment.

1630 6:03:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: That was in evidence already.

1631 6:03:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you recall seeing this picture earlier?

1632 6:03:50

MS. HEARD: I do.

1633 6:03:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And now let's go to 1829, please.

1634 6:04:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does that appear to be the same lampshade but in color?

1635 6:04:09

MS. HEARD: It does appear that it is.

1636 6:04:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Thank you.

1637 6:04:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Now let's go through, I'm going to ask you to take a look at 1834.

1638 6:04:24

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what does this depict that you can recall?

1639 6:04:28

MS. HEARD: That is the TV that Johnny threw the cup of coffee at.

1640 6:04:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And let's go to 1835.

1641 6:04:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what does this depict?

1642 6:04:49

MS. HEARD: One of the sofas in the living room next to the kitchen with blood on it.

1643 6:04:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then let's go to 1837. And what does this depict?

1644 6:05:09

MS. HEARD: It's one of the guest bedrooms with Johnny's iPad on the bed and blood and/or paint on the -- on the duvet cover.

1645 6:05:20

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Thank you. Now let's do 1838. And what does this depict?

1646 6:05:32

MS. HEARD: Lampshade -- or a lamp that has been robbed of the shade.

1647 6:05:38

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Let's go to 1839.

1648 6:05:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: What does this depict?

1649 6:05:51

MS. HEARD: Different bed with more blood on it.

1650 6:05:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: Then let's go to 1840. And what does this depict?

1651 6:06:07

MS. HEARD: Blood on one of the guitars that Johnny was apparently trying to play.

1652 6:06:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. You didn't try to play the guitar?

1653 6:06:17

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Calls for speculation.

1654 6:06:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: I didn't even get the words out.

1655 6:06:22

THE COURT: I'll overrule it at this point. Next question.

1656 6:06:24

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, effort did you make to play a guitar?

1657 6:06:29

MS. HEARD: I've never played the guitar.

1658 6:06:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Let's go to 1841.

1659 6:06:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: What does this depict?

1660 6:06:42

MS. HEARD: It is where Johnny slammed the end of a bottle into the wall while holding me up against it.

1661 6:06:54

MS. BREDEHOFT: Is this in the bar area?

1662 6:06:58

MS. HEARD: This happened in two rooms, so it's hard to tell.

1663 6:06:59
1664 6:07:01

MS. HEARD: The bottle into the wall, the best of my recollection, happened in the kitchenette/bar area downstairs, but I can't be a hundred percent certain.

1665 6:07:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And let's go to 1842. What does this depict?

1666 6:07:25

MS. HEARD: Another broken lamp.

1667 6:07:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then I've just got a few more left.

1668 6:07:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: 1805, and what does this depict?

1669 6:07:44

MS. HEARD: Wine spill. It looks like the remnants of a wine glass being thrown, and it looks like broken glass.

1670 6:07:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize where this was in the house?

1671 6:07:59

MS. HEARD: Well, it looks like a bedside table, but I can't be certain.

1672 6:08:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Let's go to 1806.

1673 6:08:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's -- let's skip that one, and let's go to 1808. Do you know what this depicts?

1674 6:08:26

MS. HEARD: Wine spill.

1675 6:08:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. All right.

1676 6:08:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, you started to testify about -- before we go there, in these pictures, would you say they accurately depict the damage that you saw I that third morning?

1677 6:08:59
1678 6:09:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: What else -- how were they not accurately depicting?

1679 6:09:06

MS. HEARD: Well, if you can believe it, this is a - it seems significantly cleaned up. There was much more damage, specifically broken glass. On the countertops there was a lot of broken glass. I could feel it cutting my arms when I was trying to get up, and I could feel it underneath my feet. So I don't know when these pictures were taken, but there's been some cleanup.

1680 6:09:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, you indicated that the -- that Johnny had turned on your iPhone and I recorded; is that correct?

1681 6:09:50

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1682 6:09:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did there come a time that you discovered a recording on your iPhone from Australia?

1683 6:09:55

MS. HEARD: Yes. Much later. There was this five-hour-long recording, and naturally I didn't know what that could possibly be. Because even though Johnny and I recorded each other often as part of our, you know, struggles to figure out our relationship, this one was, you know, five hours was unusual. And that's when I discovered that there had been this recording of the end of that Australia incident, if you will.

1684 6:10:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: And did you listen to that recording?

1685 6:10:35

MS. HEARD: I have heard it, yes.

1686 6:10:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: And does it accurately represent what I was depicted in that recording?

1687 6:10:39

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1688 6:10:41

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Form. Lack ! of foundation. ,14

1689 6:11:27

THE COURT: All right. You want to approach? I'm not sure.

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

THE COURT: All right.is

MS. VASQUEZ: The recording, Your I Honor, is five hours long. She's not there for most of it. It's other people's voices.

THE COURT: So I guess the question is how can she say the whole thing was accurate if she wasn't there the whole time.

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm trying to indicate that she is --

THE COURT: Are we going to move it in?

MS. BREDEHOFT: Don't we already have parts of it in?

MS. VASQUEZ: We do not because there's other voices.

THE COURT: Well, let's do that now. Are you moving it in?

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes, I'm moving in parts of Defendant's 378.

THE COURT: What are the parts you're moving in? You're not moving in all five hours to this jury are you?

THE COURT: But the parts you have, are they just --

MS. BREDEHOFT: There are other people. There are absolutely other people. I don't understand why that wouldn't be admissible.

THE COURT: Hearsay.

MS. BREDEHOFT: If I'm understanding, it's not hearsay to see videos.

THE COURT: No. Videos aren't statements; videos are pictures.

MS. BREDEHOFT: But recordings aren't statements here.

THE COURT: If there's hearsay inside recordings, it's hearsay.

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Well, then I'm moving to admit them and --

THE COURT: Moving to.

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm moving to admit the recording that I guess Your Honor's going to deny. But...

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.

1713 6:12:21

THE COURT: The objection's hearsay. l'm going to sustain the objection. Ms. Bredehoft, can you tell me the number of that -- the exhibit number so I can ...

1714 6:12:26

THE COURT: Thank you. Thank you.

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

1716 6:12:31

THE COURT: Okay.

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

1718 6:12:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, you testified that you made arrangements to return to home. Can you describe -- let's take you to the point you left the Australia house to go to the airport and were accompanied by Ben King. Could you tell the jury what transpired during that period of time?

1719 6:12:57

MS. HEARD: So I left Australia shortly after that. My understanding was Johnny was in the hospital for his finger, and Ben King was going to accompany me. And on the ride on the way to the airport, Johnny called me, and we were just crying on the phone. We were just crying. He asked if it was - if he had killed it, meaning the relationship. It was - I don't remember the exact words that he used but he was kind of asking me in that way, "Is it done? Is this over? Did we kill it? Did I kill it?" that sort of thing.

1720 6:14:01

MS. HEARD: I don't remember what I was saying to him, but we hung up as I went into the airport. I had a mix of feelings. Nothing really was making perfect sense to me, for sure. And I flew back with Ben. I don't really remember speaking to Ben on the flight.

1721 6:14:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: When Mr. Depp was -- what you testified on what Mr. Depp said to you on the phone, were you on the phone with Mr. Depp? Or was there anyone else you were on the phone with?

1722 6:14:48

MS. HEARD: I only remember speaking to Johnny. And I remember sitting in the back seat of the SUV that had driven me, and we were outside of the entrance where you walk into the airport. And I, even then, felt torn about leaving. I obviously didn't want to stay, but I was in such shock.

1723 6:15:05

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Nonresponsive.

1724 6:15:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: I don't know how that's I nonresponsive.

1725 6:15:23

THE COURT: You can ask your question again, Ms. Bredehoft.

1726 6:15:25
1727 6:15:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please tell us how you felt at that point and what Mr. Depp was saying to you.

1728 6:15:33

MS. HEARD: I remember --

1729 6:15:35

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Asked and answered.

1730 6:15:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: She was in the middle of responding to it, Your Honor. Never said ask a different question.

1731 6:15:44

THE COURT: It's a different question. But I'll sustain that objection if you want to ask a different question.

1732 6:15:46
1733 6:15:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: How did you feel at that time?

1734 6:15:53

MS. HEARD: I felt destroyed, like my heart was broken. I didn't know what to do. I thought maybe if I left him in Australia, I thought maybe something would happen to him. I thought he might die or kill himself. Because that certainly seems like the trajectory he was on. He told me he put a cigarette out on his face before, the Friday before. And combined with all of the --when I was in the bedroom and he was in the hospital, I found -- and I was packing my bags and stuff, I found all these empty bags of -- coke bags, you know, dime bags with white residue on them and in them all over; they were in the books, in bedside table. There were so many, I wondered how I didn't see it before, even though I had, you know, just gotten there.

1735 6:16:57

MS. HEARD: So I was worried he would die. And I was worried that we wouldn't come back from what happened. I was worried that there's just no way to turn this around. There was no going back. But -- shock. Shock.

1736 6:17:20

MS. BREDEHOFT: So you flew out of that airport. Did you have to -- did you have a stop anywhere before you went back to LA?

1737 6:17:32

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Relevance?

1738 6:17:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: In a minute, I'll show --

1739 6:17:38

THE COURT: Overruled.

1740 6:17:41

MS. HEARD: Yes. We stopped in an airport, I think it was we stopped at the Sydney airport from Brisbane, I believe.

1741 6:17:49

MS. BREDEHOFT: And did you have to change gates there?

1742 6:17:52

MS. HEARD: Yes. I -we had a short flight to get to Sydney, and then in Sydney, I walked with Ben through the airport to get the next plane. And we passed a newsstand, and I just remember I passed this newsstand and there was a book on there, you know, on one of the book stands outside of the store, and it had this puzzle piece on it. And Johnny and I used to use that as a term of endearment, puzzle piece, you know, and I saw this puzzle piece on the cover of the book. It got my attention, said "Four Ways to Click: A Relationship Guide," so I bought it. And I -

1743 6:18:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: Who was the author?

1744 6:18:47

MS. HEARD: Dr. Amy Banks.

1745 6:18:49

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Go ahead. Please continue?

1746 6:18:52

MS. HEARD: So the book, at least from the subtitle, said it was a book on solving relationship problems. So I bought it, and I read it on the way home.

1747 6:19:08

MS. BREDEHOFT: And why did you buy it and read it on the way home?

1748 6:19:15

MS. HEARD: Because I loved this man. I loved this man so much. And it was so toxic. And for some reason, I couldn't get him to -- I couldn't get him to not hurt me. I couldn't -- and it seemed like I was hurting him. We love each other -- loved each other so much, at least I loved him so much. And I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to do with this relationship. It was awful and toxic, but it was so important to me and I loved him so much. I -- I would have read a million books.

1749 6:20:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: So when you got back to LA, how long before Mr. Depp came back?

1750 6:20:50

MS. HEARD: Few days. Johnny came back within a few days. He went to his Sweetzer house, the main house, which was what we did. You know, if there was a problem between Johnny and I, we weren't under the same roof once, you know, the fight had either paused or ended, depending. But he would go to Sweetzer, and I would stay at the ECB. And so he went to Sweetzer upon landing, and there were some conversations with the medical team, you know, doctors and stuff, and I just remember feeling concerned for his life because things had changed. And without saying what they said to me, it -

1751 6:21:06

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

1752 6:21:08

MS. BREDEHOFT: She said, "without saying."

1753 6:21:09

MS. VASQUEZ: She's characterizing it.

1754 6:21:11

THE COURT: I'll overrule for now. See where we go.

1755 6:21:17

MS. HEARD: I was - I became really, really worried that Johnny was not going to live through this, that there would be infections or problems and things, and he wouldn't stop using coke and he couldn't get the surgery he needed because he wouldn't stop using coke and they wouldn't put him under because of all the coke, so -

1756 6:21:40

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

1757 6:21:40

THE COURT: All right. I'll sustain as to the last part.

1758 6:21:41

MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

1759 6:21:42

THE COURT: All right. Next question.

1760 6:21:44

MS. BREDEHOFT: So when did you next -- when did you next see Mr. Depp after you got back from Australia?

1761 6:21:57

MS. HEARD: I saw him a few days - I don't know how long it was. But it was at the doctor - I think it - my best recollection was it was in the doctor's office, or around that, he needed a procedure.

1762 6:22:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did there come a time that you reconciled after Australia?

1763 6:22:19

MS. HEARD: Yes. Because it - it almost felt like it went away so quickly because there was this surgery that he needed, and there was, maybe, a few - maybe he had more than one surgery, but it was, you know, like it became, very, very about getting Johnny through the next step, you know, getting Johnny home, getting Johnny off the coke long enough to get the procedure done. And then after that procedure, getting another procedure done.

1764 6:22:53

MS. HEARD: And it was just these small steps, and before you know it, we were kind of back in it with the prospect, of course, of him being done with all the drugs and drinking because that's what necessarily had to happen for him to have this surgery. So that made me feel a little, you know, a little more secure in kind of coming back into this relationship with him.

1765 6:23:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: So I'm going to take you to March 23rd, 2015, just a few weeks after -- two and a half weeks, roughly, after Australia.

1766 6:23:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: Where was Johnny staying at this point?

1767 6:23:48

MS. HEARD: I think he was staying at the Eastern Columbia - at the ECB. Yeah, he was staying at the ECB at the time because we were kind of in the bedroom together the night of the 22nd, which is when he passed out, how I found his iPad.

1768 6:24:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry?

1769 6:24:14

MS. HEARD: I found his iPad open. He was texting someone with it open. He passed out, and I saw what he was texting.

1770 6:24:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please tell the jury about that.

1771 6:24:27

MS. HEARD: He was he was texting this woman that he had had a relationship with on and off kind of at the beginning of our relationship so I recognized the name But the date was right after the wedding I saw it He had gone to her house after we got married like upon touching down in Los Angeles I think it was the next day he went to this woman's house that he has a sexual relationship with And -

1772 6:25:08

MS. BREDEHOFT: What did you do as a result of seeing that on the iPad?

1773 6:25:13

MS. HEARD: I freaked out. I immediately, like, confronted him about it. I was, you know - I didn't care in that moment if he did kill me, which was likely in confronting him at that stage of our lives. I didn't even care anymore. At this moment I was - he had already ripped my heart out. You know, this, like, I had just been through what I - after having been through what I.

1774 6:25:50

MS. HEARD: 119 went through in Australia just weeks prior, I see this, it was, like, believably painful - unbelievably painful.

1775 6:26:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: So what did you do?

1776 6:26:15

MS. HEARD: I'm yelling at him, so just yelling. I called -- I was calling him all these ugly names. I was screaming at him, told him to get the fuck out of the house. That's what I said. Excuse my language. We were screaming at each other.

1777 6:26:37

MS. HEARD: At some point, we were upstairs in penthouse 3, and we kind of get into a -- how do you describe it? Pushing each other, you know. And I just remember being so mad at him for cheating on me and doing so in this way, like, right after the wedding, and then I, right after my wedding, go to see him, and then Australia happens and it just felt like everything came crashing down and I was so hurt.

1778 6:27:31

MS. HEARD: Anyway we I break out of his grasp at some point and I go into my sister's room The apartments in the ECB are connecting at least three of them are and they connect from upstairs only So you could get from Johnny and l's apartment into the neighboring apartment where Whitney my sister was staying at the time and then you can go from that apartment into penthouse 5 again still on on the top floor So I went through Johnny's office, which is how you access the door that gets you into Whitney -- the neighboring apartment where Whitney was, my sister. And I went in there and woke her up, crying, screaming, saying, "What am I going to do?"

1779 6:27:43

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

1780 6:27:56

MS. HEARD: Sorry.

1781 6:28:08

THE COURT: I'll sustain.

1782 6:28:20

MS. BREDEHOFT: That was not offered for the truth of the matter.

1783 6:28:22

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

1784 6:28:24

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. You entered Whitney's -- don't tell the jury what you said to her, but what I 7 happened next?

1785 6:28:35

MS. HEARD: Johnny comes into penthouse 4 and grabs me. I don't know what -- why -- I don't know what he was doing. But at one moment I kind of am aware that my sister's somewhere nearby, and I thought about that. I just remember thinking about that. And I -- I remember getting kind of free from Johnny, and he left. Well, he walked out of the room.

1786 6:29:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: When you say "free from Johnny," what, s if any, connection did you have, physical connection, before that?

1787 6:29:18

MS. HEARD: Well, I mean, I'm, you know, trying to stand up for myself, and Johnny would, at that stage in our relationship, he would just throw me, shove me, hit me in the face, and it was just like all I could do is just try to -- try to fight back or try to not get more hurt than not doing anything would have certainly left me.

1788 6:29:52

MS. HEARD: I don't really recall specifics. I remember at one point, he had his uncasted hand in my hair and I was looking at the carpet. I don't know -- I don't know what happened immediately after that, but I remember he left. He was out of the room for a while. I don't know how we got into -- I think I heard him in P5. Again, it's the neighboring apartment to that, so it's P4 in between, and P5 is the corner and that apartment, was empty basically and so I used it, the top bedrooms, the bedrooms on the top floor, as my closet. And I had all these clothing racks and shoe racks and stuff like that in there. And then it had another level, the mezzanine, which is an over -- you know, it hung over the rest of the bottom floor, and I used that as my office. And the bottom floor is, of course, the living room, with just some couch -- sparsely decorated with some couches and a low table. And I go on to -- I hear him in penthouse 5, and -- oh, and the lower level also, there's another painting studio, painting area of mine. So I go in there because I hear him, and he's in there and he's screaming, but I don't know who he -- my understanding was he was screaming at me, but I wasn't in that apartment. I could hear him.

1789 6:31:25

MS. HEARD: And when I heard him, I came into the -- into penthouse 5, and I have to go down the stairs, and I went down the stairs to the mezzanine level where my office was. And I could see him and a security guard and Debbie, the nurse, and he was sitting on the sofa when I first walked into the room. And he kind of stood up, was drinking a Red Bull and screaming at me, and Debbie came up the stairs because I'm screaming back at him. She came up the stairs, I think, and while we were - she came up, I suppose, to kind of comfort me.

1790 6:32:09

MS. HEARD: And while I was up on the mezzanine floor, Whitney came down, and he threw the Red O Bull can up at me, certainly, but it kind of either hit or narrowly missed Debbie. And I said he - I called him a pussy and said something about, you know, I'm screaming at him angrily. I at least called him a fucking pussy. I don't know what else I said, but I was screaming at him because he threw this can at me and everything else that had happened.

1791 6:32:50

MS. HEARD: And when I did that, he bolted up the stairs, and, you know, there's only- I mean, he - he was up the first flight of stairs. Again, I'm on the mezzanine which is in between two flights of stairs. Bolted up the steps, and two flights of stairs. Bolted up the steps, and I -- I don't know-- I don't know how he managed to get his hands in my hair so fast, but he had his hand on the back of my head, my hair, and kind of was yanking me down and hit me in the face with this cast he had.

1792 6:33:32

MS. HEARD: I just remember this brief struggle we had before kind of breakaway Whitney, my sister, all of a sudden put herself in between Johnny and I. She just threw herself, like, in the line of fire, whatever. She just all of a sudden was there and was trying to get Johnny to stop. Her back was to the staircase, and Johnny swings at her. And I just see my little sister with her back -- face -- her back to the staircase, and I know Johnny swings at her and I don't even wait, don't even wait for any other -- I don't hesitate. I don't wait.

1793 6:34:29

MS. HEARD: I just, in my head, instantly think of Kate Moss and the stairs, and I swung at him. In all of my relationship to date with Johnny, I hadn't landed a blow, and I, for the first time, hit him, like, actually hit him, square in the face. He didn't push my sister down the stairs. In all of my time, all my time of being in that relationship to that point, hadn't even landed one on Johnny. Sure, I had tried to fight back; threw my arms, flailed my arms, hit, whenever I could, to try to block blows myself, but never landed anything. And Johnny kind of looked stunned and then laughed at me and then lunged at me again. And before I know it, security stepped in between us and pulled Johnny away. And I went upstairs 112 with my sister, and we locked the door and I could just hear all this commotion happening in penthouse 5. I could hear him raging, destroying my things. I could hear it And then some point, I saw it the next day.

1794 6:36:01

MS. BREDEHOFT: Tell the jury what you saw the next day.

1795 6:36:08

MS. HEARD: All these clothing racks - all my clothing racks were toppled over, shoe racks toppled over, thrown down the stairs, desk - my desk wiped off, just looked like everything that desk wiped off, just looked like everything that he could touch, he tried to tum over, destroy, smash, you know. But my clothing racks, these huge, heavy clothing racks full of clothes, there's at least one of them he threw down the stairs. The rest were toppled over.

1796 6:36:42

MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, I'm going to fast-forward to December 15, 2015. Were you and Mr. Depp together Is at that time?

1797 6:37:01

MS. HEARD: Yes, we were.

1798 6:37:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have a fight that night?

1799 6:37:09

MS. HEARD: December 15th? Yes, we did, but I -- I don't recall -- I don't recall what started the argument. We had had periods leading up to that that were really beautiful and really good and then periods that weren't.

1800 6:37:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, let's talk about the December 15, 2015. What do you recall of your fight that night with Mr. Depp?

1801 6:37:38

MS. HEARD: I remember him chasing me in the kitchen. I remember throwing something in his direction to slow down his momentum. I remember him screaming. I remember him getting on top of me at some point, toppling me. Mostly at that moment downstairs, he was hitting me in my face. This is another example of when I wish so much I could tell you in exact sequence, but I can't. It's flashes. So I'll tell you what I do remember.

1802 6:38:25

MS. HEARD: I remember at some point trying to go -- flee upstairs. And we had -- he got ahold of me, and I got free and I managed to get all the way up the stairs almost. I was on the last flight, and we had had some interaction where I said -- I think I said something to him on the stairs. It might have been broken up, and I think I said something on the stairs. And I just remember how quickly he shot back up those stairs and grabbed me by the back of my hair, my head, and slammed his hand on my head. And I went down on the stairs, and he overtook me.

1803 6:39:14

MS. HEARD: I remember him so well, I remember his boots and the sound I made. I remember him grabbing my, my hair, my head and kind of dragging me up the stairs the rest of the way. He dragged me into the room where that opens into, like a salon/foyer area. And we had this argument that kind of, you know, was a shoving match that I was losing. By the second or third shove, he sent me toppling over this chaise lounge [sic], like a little low-line sofa seat, and I hit my head on the -- on the brick wall. There was an exposed brick wall.

1804 6:40:11

MS. HEARD: I remember I stood up, and I remember Johnny asking me if I wanted to go. And he did that thing where he's, like, challenging me, said it in that way, challenging me to stand up and get back up. And when I did, he said, "Oh, you really want to go now, tough guy." Shoved me back down, "Oh, you really want to go, huh? Oh, you're so tough."

1805 6:40:39

MS. HEARD: I stood back up again. This time he hits me in the face. I stand back up and look him right in the eye. It was just a really still moment, I'll never forget it, really still. I stood up and he said, "You really want to go" I 1 again, tough guy? And I just looked right at, him. Just liked right at his face. And he balled I! up his fist, leaned back, and headbutted me square in the nose, just right as I stood in front of him. I was a foot from him, slammed me right in the nose.

1806 6:41:18

MS. HEARD: Instantly, searing pain. It's one of the few memories I have in this long relationship that I actually remember the, like, the physical pain in that moment, you know, it's just searing, and I remember thinking, "You have your hand free." You know, like I had time to think, "You have your hands free. You could have hit me with ! your hands. Why did you headbutt me?"

1807 6:41:56

MS. HEARD: I told him that night I was going to leave him. I went through his office to go into the other room where I kept all my stuff. We had another struggle. He overtook me. I was trying to hit him off me. I was trying to get him to - I was trying to get his body off of me. I think he was just pummeling me. I don't know how to describe what - I went down to the floor. I remember him being on top of me, and he's screaming and swinging at me while I was on the floor. He had me by the hair and dragged me the rest of the way from the office into the neighboring room -- the neighboring apartment. I remember the door that connected these two buildings -- these two rooms had a metal grate -- not grate, but a metal bottom, metal floor that separated it, a big heavy, bank door. And I remember he was dragging me, and I removed my hands from my head and kind of tried to grab onto the metal door to prevent him from dragging me into the room.

1808 6:43:23

MS. HEARD: But he -- I couldn't stop him. He dragged me all the way from that carpet, I was trying to ex- -- I was trying to get free of his grasp. I was trying to stop him from pulling me.

1809 6:43:38

MS. HEARD: I remember feeling the carpet and the metal, and he wrestles me -- drags me up to the bed, throws me down onto the bed, and kind of wrestles me down onto the bed. And he kneels on my back with one -- one leg. And I was trying to fight him off me because I was face down on the bed top, and he wrestled me down, kind of trying to hold me down with his knee on my back. And he's punching me, punching me with a closed fist, punching me repeatedly. And I don't remember even feeling the pain. I just remember the sound of Johnny's voice. He got next to my ear, and he was screaming over and over and over again. Each time it sounded louder and more desecrate: "I fucking hate you. I fucking hate you. I fucking hate you," over and over.

1810 6:44:52

MS. HEARD: And then pounding the back of my head, pounding it with his fist. And I don't even remember feeling pain. I just could hear myself scream until I couldn't hear myself anymore. I could just hear him say that he was going to kill me. And that he sounded like an animal in pain when he was saying he was -- that he fucking hated me. He sounded like he was almost crying, or something in his voice was different. He sounded different, like, he sounded like he was in agony. It was high pitched and loud.

1811 6:45:38

MS. HEARD: And I don't know how many times he just hit me over and over and over again, and I got really still and it felt in my body, like, got quiet. And I thought, "This is how I die. He's going to kill me now, and I'm not -- he's going to kill me and he -- he wouldn't even have realized it."

1812 6:46:13

MS. HEARD: I couldn't breathe. I remember trying to scream, and I couldn't scream. I was suffocating in this pillow top with him holding me down, punching me over and over. And I don't have any memory after that until I woke up.

1813 6:46:44

MS. BREDEHOFT: When you woke up, was there anyone there?

1814 6:47:11

MS. HEARD: I remember hearing my best friend's voice. I felt like it came -- I felt like it was, like, on a speakerphone, like it came from everywhere. I just heard her voice in a weird way. It felt like it was coming from two directions. I realized that I was sitting on the edge of the bed on the carpet of the floor against the broken frame of the bed, and it was a low-lying bed with a really thick, wooden frame.

1815 6:48:03

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Calls for speculation.

1816 6:48:05

MS. HEARD: I could feel it.

1817 6:48:07

THE COURT: Overruled.

1818 6:48:09

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you. Please continue.

1819 6:48:14

MS. HEARD: I was there for it. And while he was on top of me, I could feel that. I could feel him trying to get balance. I could feel him slipping. I could hear it. I don't know how I got off the bed. I don't know what happened to me from the time I was - I stopped hearing myself scream, I don't know what happened to me. It's a really weird feeling because I - next thing I remember is laying - leaning against the broken part of the bed and on the carpet and my friend saying "Oh, my God, oh, my God"

1820 6:48:52

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

1821 6:48:54

THE COURT: Sustained.

1822 6:48:56
1823 6:48:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: Go ahead. Without saying what Rocky said.

1824 6:49:06

MS. HEARD: And I - eventually she called the nurse, Nurse Erin. She got something out of the freezer for my face. She did a concussion check with Erin on the phone. I thought I probably had a concussion and certainly that I had a broken nose. There was blood everywhere, blood all over those pillows. My head was bleeding from the ripped-out hair, chunks of hair on the floor, all over the place, actually. It was just all over the apartment. He, after leaving me, had written on the countertops in Sharpies.

1825 6:50:01

MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, I'm going to ask you to bring up Defendant's exhibit 510.

1826 6:50:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this photograph?

1827 6:50:18

MS. HEARD: Yes, I do.

1828 6:50:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: And does it accurately depict the scene portrayed?

1829 6:50:24

MS. HEARD: Yes. That's the next day, I think.

1830 6:50:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I'm going to move the admission of Defendant's exhibit 510.

1831 6:50:31

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection, Your Honor.

1832 6:50:32

THE COURT: All right. 510 into evidence. You can publish it, please.

1833 6:50:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

1834 6:50:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: Could you describe to the jury what that is?

1835 6:50:47

MS. HEARD: Those are chunks of my hair that Johnny ripped out while dragging me and punching me.

1836 6:50:54

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

1837 6:50:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, could you bring up 513, please, Defendant's 513.

1838 6:51:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this picture accurately depict you and the scene portrayed?

1839 6:51:21

MS. HEARD: I think this is a couple days later, but, yeah.

1840 6:51:23
1841 6:51:24

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to move to admission of Defendant's 513.

1842 6:51:29

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1843 6:51:31

THE COURT: All right. 513 in evidence.

1844 6:51:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: And could you tell the jury what this is and what it depicts?

1845 6:51:39

MS. HEARD: This is my face with a busted lip, which is difficult to see in this picture, but my two black eyes; one is worse than the other, it was, like I said, maybe a day or two later, and my broken nose.

1846 6:52:06

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Thank you.

1847 6:52:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, can you bring up Defendant's exhibit 514.

1848 6:52:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this accurately portray the scene depicted?

1849 6:52:27

MS. HEARD: Yes. That's my face sometime after.

1850 6:52:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I'm going to move the admission of Defendant's 514.

1851 6:52:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. If you could, just briefly describe for the jury what this one is.

1852 6:52:42

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1853 6:52:45

THE COURT: 514 in evidence. You may publish.

1854 6:52:47

MS. HEARD: That's my face sometime after Johnny I beat me up.

1855 6:53:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

1856 6:53:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, if you can, bring up Defendant's 515.

1857 6:53:06

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this accurately portray the scene depicted?

1858 6:53:12

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1859 6:53:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to move the admission of Exhibit 516.

1860 6:53:20

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1861 6:53:22

THE COURT: 515 or 516?

1862 6:53:24

MS. BREDEHOFT: 516. I misspoke.

1863 6:53:25

THE COURT: You said 515 before.

1864 6:53:29

THE COURT: No objection to 515?

1865 6:53:31

MS. VASQUEZ: No, Your Honor.

1866 6:53:32

THE COURT: 515 in evidence. You can publish it.

1867 6:53:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what does that depict, Amber?

1868 6:53:41

MS. HEARD: This is my face sometime after.

1869 6:53:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Let's look at Defendant's 516, please.

1870 6:54:01

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this accurately portray the scene depicted, Amber?

1871 6:54:09

MS. HEARD: Yes, it does, maybe -

1872 6:54:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let me move it first.

1873 6:54:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: Move the admission of l Defendant's exhibit 516.

1874 6:54:18

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1875 6:54:19

THE COURT: 516 in evidence.

1876 6:54:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: May we go ahead and publish it to the jury?

1877 6:54:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Amber, go ahead and explain what it is.

1878 6:54:30

MS. HEARD: I think that's maybe that night or the next night after Johnny left me on the bed.

1879 6:54:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to 517. Does this accurately portray the scene depicted?

1880 6:55:02

MS. HEARD: Yes, it does.

1881 6:55:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: Move to admit Defendant's 517, Your Honor.

1882 6:55:07

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1883 6:55:09

THE COURT: 517 in evidence.

1884 6:55:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, please describe for the jury what this portrays.

1885 6:55:18

MS. HEARD: That's my face after this incident.

1886 6:55:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what is -- what's portrayed on your lip?

1887 6:55:32

MS. HEARD: Well, he busted my lip when he punched me. It's bleeding in this picture. It kept reopening. You know, it's a mouth. Your lips move.

1888 6:55:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to 519.

1889 6:56:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this accurately portray the scene depicted?

1890 6:56:08

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1891 6:56:09

MS. BREDEHOFT: Move the admission of 519.

1892 6:56:11

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection, Your Honor.

1893 6:56:14

THE COURT: 519 in evidence.

1894 6:56:17

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you tell the jury what this shows?

1895 6:56:20

MS. HEARD: This is my lip a few days later.

1896 6:56:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Let's go to Defendant's 520, please.

1897 6:56:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this accurately depict the scene portrayed?

1898 6:56:41

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1899 6:56:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: Move the admission of Defendant's 520 -- is it 521? 520.

1900 6:56:49

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1901 6:56:49

THE COURT: 520 in evidence and published. depicted here?

1902 6:56:52

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you please tell the jury what's

1903 6:56:56

MS. HEARD: That's my scalp with a chunk of it missing from when Johnny was dragging me by my hair.

1904 6:57:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to Defendant's 521, please. I don't think that's the same. Let's take that one down. Let's go to 522.

1905 6:57:58

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this accurately portray the scene depicted?

1906 6:58:03

MS. HEARD: Well, it's a few days later.

1907 6:58:05
1908 6:58:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: Move the admission of 522, please.

1909 6:58:07

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1910 6:58:09

THE COURT: 522 in evidence.

1911 6:58:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what shows there?

1912 6:58:14

MS. HEARD: My face is healing.

1913 6:58:17
1914 6:58:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to 523.

1915 6:58:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this accurately portray the scene depicted?

1916 6:58:36

MS. HEARD: Yes. I think this is day or so after, l ,9 maybe longer. I can't tell. But, yes, it does.

1917 6:58:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: Move the admission of 523.

1918 6:58:49

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1919 6:58:51

THE COURT: 523 in evidence.

1920 6:58:52

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm just going to draw your attention, Amber, to an area up here. What, if any, bruising did you sustain in that area?

1921 6:58:59

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection.

1922 6:59:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any.

1923 6:59:01

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

1924 6:59:06

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, bruising did you sustain?

1925 6:59:10

MS. VASQUEZ: Same objection.

1926 6:59:12

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

1927 6:59:17

MS. BREDEHOFT: What injuries did you have? the -- my neck, the back of my head. I had

1928 6:59:28

MS. HEARD: I had bruising on my temple, my chin, swelling and pieces of, you know, my scalp kind of ripped, torn. They were gross, pussy, but this from the bruising around my temple from one of the blows. One of several blows, I don't know.

1929 6:59:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to 524.

1930 7:00:01

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this accurately portray the scene IO shown? y 11

1931 7:00:06

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1932 7:00:07
1933 7:00:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: Move the admission of 524. 1 15

1934 7:00:09

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1935 7:00:10

THE COURT: 524 in evidence.

1936 7:00:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what does this show?

1937 7:00:18

MS. HEARD: It's a -- I had a pretty -- can I touch the screen?

1938 7:00:20

MS. HEARD: I had a pretty gross bruise right there

1939 7:00:22

THE COURT: Yes, ma'am, you can.

1940 7:00:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes. in my head, my temple. Difficult to see it in this light, but I remember it was pretty ugly.

1941 7:00:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, let's go to Defendant's 509.

1942 7:00:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this accurately portray the scene depicted?

1943 7:01:02

MS. HEARD: Yes, it does.

1944 7:01:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I move the admission of Defendant's 509. is?

1945 7:01:07

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1946 7:01:09

THE COURT: All right. 509. Will you please tell the jury what this

1947 7:01:18

MS. HEARD: That's the bed Johnny broke while on top of me.

1948 7:01:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Let's go to Defendant's 511, please.

1949 7:01:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this accurately portray the scene depicted?

1950 7:01:51

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1951 7:01:52
1952 7:01:52

MS. BREDEHOFT: Move the admission of Defendant's 511.

1953 7:01:54

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1954 7:01:55

THE COURT: All tight. 511 in evidence.

1955 7:01:58

MS. BREDEHOFT: What do you see in this picture, Amber?

1956 7:02:02

MS. HEARD: Just more destruction from a part of the fight that happened in the bedroom, not the bedroom that I was just talking about. It was the main bedroom. There had been a part of the fight that happened in there too.

1957 7:02:16
1958 7:02:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to Defendant's 512, please.

1959 7:02:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: Does this accurately portray the scene depicted?

1960 7:02:50

MS. HEARD: Yes. That's downstairs in the main -

1961 7:02:54

MS. BREDEHOFT: Wait. Let me move the admission of it.

1962 7:02:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: Move the admission of Defendant's 512, please.

1963 7:03:00

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1964 7:03:02

THE COURT: 512 in evidence. Okay. Now please tell the jury about I it.

1965 7:03:07

MS. HEARD: That's downstairs in the main apartment.

1966 7:03:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. ,5

1967 7:03:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to Defendant's 525.

1968 7:03:24

MS. BREDEHOFT: And does this accurately depict the scene portrayed?

1969 7:03:29

MS. HEARD: Yes.

1970 7:03:30

MS. BREDEHOFT: Move the admission of , 11 525, please.

1971 7:03:33

MS. VASQUEZ: No objection.

1972 7:03:34

THE COURT: All right. 525 in I evidence.

1973 7:03:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: And please tell the jury what that is.

1974 7:03:39

MS. HEARD: This is Johnny's graffiti on our kitchen counter that he left on his way out, I suppose.

1975 7:03:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: And I think

1976 7:03:52

MS. HEARD: Defendant's 526 is already into evidence. Can you ,21 just bring that up.

1977 7:03:59

THE COURT: Yes, 526 is in evidence.

1978 7:04:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, Amber, after -- as of December 15, 2015, what were your plans for Christmas that year?

1979 7:04:20

MS. HEARD: Well, up to this point, the plan was to have our families join us. We would go with the kids and celebrate Christmas together, you know, as a married couple, and we would all go to Johnny's island. And he'd invited my best friend at the time, Rocky, and her family, meaning her mom and her fiance and my parents and my sister. We were all going to go to this island I've told you about that Johnny has in the Bahamas and spend it together. And that was the plan leading up to this.

1980 7:05:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And what, if anything, changed as a result of this night of December 15, 2015?

1981 7:05:18

MS. HEARD: After they saw my face, no one wanted to go to the island anymore with Johnny. They wanted me to leave him.

1982 7:05:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have to appear -- were you scheduled to appear on the James Corden show on December 16th?

1983 7:05:37

MS. HEARD: That's right. I was promoting the Danish Girl, the film I had done earlier in the year in London before going to see Johnny in Australia. So I was promoting that film that had been completed, and they asked me to make an appearance on the night show called the James Corden show.

1984 7:05:57

MS. HEARD: After this appeared and I did the first concussion check with Erin on the phone, I got worried that I wouldn't be able to hide the bruising and swelling. But I -- I stayed up all night and the next day checked in the mirror to see if I could get away with it, meaning hiding it so I could make an appearance. And I gambled and thought maybe I could pull it off.

1985 7:06:42

MS. HEARD: I had my hair and makeup team come, and they worked around it, meaning worked around the lesions on my head with the hair spray, because that stings, and worked around the bruising by covering it with hem'Y makeup, heavier makeup than normal, bruise-covering makeup. And I remember my g p y lip was still bleeding and swollen, so we did this, like, really thick, super-heavy, matte red lipstick. I remember very well at the time that we had no choice in coloring. That was a - one of my favorite colors to wear, and this occasion we had no choice because nothing else would hide my busted lip. And I went on the show, did what I always do. I told people I had an accident.

1986 7:07:47

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

1987 7:07:48

THE COURT: All right. Sustain the objection.

1988 7:07:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: Not offered to prove the truth of the matter because she didn't have an accident, but...

1989 7:07:51

MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor.

1990 7:07:53
1991 7:07:54

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

1992 7:07:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Please continue. Did you appear on the I appeared on the show. And did there come a time that you changed your mind and went to the Bahamas with Mr. Depp for Christmas?

1993 7:08:11

MS. HEARD: Eventually.

1994 7:08:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: In 2015?

1995 7:08:13

MS. HEARD: Eventually, I did.

1996 7:08:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: And you went there with whom?

1997 7:08:21

MS. HEARD: I went with Johnny's kids -- I was -- Is you know, obviously I didn't see Johnny after this because he doesn't -- he didn't face the damage he caused, in my experience. He was never around for the cleanups. And so he wasn't around for a few days, and I eventually heard from him, and he said he wanted to talk and that he understood that it couldn't go back, you know, like almost as if he understood that I wouldn't forgive him, made it easier somehow to talk to him. You know, I didn't feel so bad about myself in that case because, you know, how could I put up with this, right?

1998 7:09:17

MS. HEARD: But with the understanding that we were done, I could have, you know, allowed for us to have one last conversation, I suppose. But I just -- you know, it's like -- I was heartbroken by the idea that I would spend this - my first Christmas as a married couple with his kids and everything on the island, I was heartbroken at the idea of missing that. And, you know, it's - the best I can describe is it for every, every hit, every incidence of violence, every time I was choked, every single one of these incidences was like a heavy coin put into a piggy bank. And, you know, you think, "Okay. Each single one of these is like"-

1999 7:09:26

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. I N

2000 7:09:35

MS. VASQUEZ: Nonresponsive.

2001 7:09:44

MS. BREDEHOFT: I think it's responsive, Your Honor.

2002 7:09:53

MS. VASQUEZ: The question was "With whom did you go?"

2003 7:10:02

THE COURT: If we could ask the question.

2004 7:10:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: Tell us how you felt and what you were thinking in this process of whether to go to have Christmas with Mr. Depp and his children?

2005 7:10:22

MS. HEARD: I guess I was trying to explain.

2006 7:10:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: Go ahead. Go ahead.

2007 7:10:27

MS. HEARD: That, you know, just you think each one of these is - it's almost like you - for each one of these things that happens, you lose the will or resolve to leave. You know, it's like every single heavy coin you put in this piggy bank is like an investment into the future you're going to get to, you know, and then before you know it, you're just carrying around this weighted ball, this piggy bank's too heavy. You can't leave.

2008 7:10:57

MS. HEARD: You know, for every single time I went back or allowed him back after this sort of thing would happen, I lost a piece of myself, a piece of my self-confidence, my trust in myself to believe and move on. You know, I lost fortifications. I lost myself, and it was somehow easier to stay.

2009 7:11:35

MS. HEARD: I didn't want to stay in the violence or this, I wanted to stay with Johnny, the good Johnny that I loved. So I, like, put another one of those coins in the piggy bank for investment and hope and future, and I forgive him It wasn't even that simple. I just decided to believe him p j that it would never happen again, clean and sober once again. This time was the last time because it couldn't be worse than this, right? It couldn't be worse. And part of me thought maybe it just needed to get this bad to get, you know, like now we can't go back. There's no way this could happen again.

2010 7:12:24

MS. HEARD: So I went to the island. After a few days of talking with Johnny, arguing with Johnny, talking with Johnny, negotiating that he's going to be clean and sober, he wasn't going to drink anymore, he wasn't going to use anymore, he would never lay a hand on me again, he would rather die than do that, that's what he was saying, I was scared. My friends were scared. But I decided to go.

2011 7:12:50

MS. HEARD: After a few days of having the plane and the kids waiting, not knowing what was going on, they were at Sweetzer, at the main house, kind of just waiting to go on this Christmas vacation. And eventually I got in the car with Johnny, and we picked his kids up and left for the island.

2012 7:13:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: So let's go to the island for the Christmas holidays. And what, if any, arguments did you have with Mr. Depp at the island over the Christmas holiday?

2013 7:14:04

MS. HEARD: Towards the end of the trip, it was - I mean, the trip itself was pretty nice. But towards the end, he started drinking again and started with wine. And we were on the couch in the main house, the cabin, it's like a one-room kind of cabin. And we're sitting on the couch and Johnny- what I perceived as nodding off, I don't still know what it was, but he was kind of passing out or nodding off or something like that.

2014 7:14:06

MS. HEARD: And I'm sensitive at this point to the clues that I can pick up on to know what pattern of behavior I'm dealing with because they made a huge difference in my life, so if I knew what he was on and what he was doing, I could react accordingly. So I'm picking up clues. I'm sitting next to him, and he's nodding off. And every single time he kind of, like, nods off he dumps his glass of wine on my lap. And I say every single time because it happened three times. First time, whatever. Second time, I'm like, "Johnny are you all right?" and I probably say it like a little weighted. And in my head, I'm just wondering what he's on. Does this mean he's on the roxies again? Is it nodding off? What's going on? What am I going to deal with?

2015 7:14:49

MS. HEARD: He'd just made a promise that he was clean and sober. We had the horrible thing happen in December. I thought we were moving forward. And the third time this happens, I jump up. I already changed my pants twice, and I jumped up and I shouted at Johnny, like, "What are you doing?" Or "Johnny, you spilled it on me again," something to that effect. And I get up, like a - 116 get up off the couch, and Johnny's son says -

2016 7:15:27

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor hearsay.

2017 7:15:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, not offered for truth of the matter. It tells, it explains --

2018 7:15:27

THE COURT: If you could approach, I just don't know.

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

2020 7:15:28

THE COURT: I just don't know what the statement is, so I can't say if it's for the truth or not of what did his son say.

2021 7:15:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: His son's going to say is "Do you need any help?" And she's going to say she looked pointedly at Johnny and said, "No. Thank you, Jack." And then she went in to change, and that's when he came after her. So it fits that she said "No. Thank you."

2022 7:15:28

THE COURT: So you're saying hearsay?

2023 7:15:28

MS. VASQUEZ: Hearsay.

2024 7:15:29

THE COURT: Why are you saying it's not?

2025 7:15:29

MS. BREDEHOFT: It's not offered to prove the truth of the matter. What he said, the fact that he said, "Do you need some help?" it's not offered to prove the truth that he wanted to help her.

2026 7:17:20

THE COURT: What's it offered for?

2027 7:19:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: It's to show the chain that she says, "No, thank you," and she looks at Johnny. And that's what sets him off, and he beats her up.

THE COURT: Well, then it's for the truth of the matter.

MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, but it's not. Because Jack is just saying, "Do you need some help?"

THE COURT: All right. I'll overrule the objection.

MS. VASQUEZ: Okay. Thank you.

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

MS. BREDEHOFT: Amber, please continue. Jack said ...

MS. HEARD: Says, "Are you okay?" Or "Can I help?" something to that effect. And I pointedly say to Jack, but really to Johnny, like, "Thank you, Jack," to make a point of the fact that he hadn't offered to help me or even acknowledge that he had been spilling wine. First, he's drinking wine. Second, he's spilling it all over me, and third he's spilling it because he's nodding off is what I assume.

MS. HEARD: At Jack, thanking him for offering. And I get up, go to the closet, take off the pants that have just been ruined, and Johnny comes into the closet right after me and slams me up against the side of the closet, and I mean, just with clarity, while holding my neck, said he'll fucking kill me if I ever spoke to him like that in front of his kids again, if I ever embarrassed him, and he shoved me at embarrassed. If I ever embarrass you -- "If you ever embarrass me again in front of my kids, I'll fucking kill you."

MS. HEARD: And I don't know-- I don't recall who told Jack to leave or -- I don't really recall having an awareness of where he was at this point. But I leave the closet, go into the bathroom which is right next to it, and he comes barreling into the bathroom behind me. Before he does that, I said something snarky to him, "Don't fucking ever talk to me like that again," or "I hate you," or something in response, you know, just something so that I felt like I wasn't just being a punching And I kind of, like, get over to the bathroom, but I didn't even have the door shut before he was in the bathroom with me. And I don't know if he used my body to shut the door or if he just shut it. But, again, bangs me up against the wall. But this time he just -- just grabbed my vagina, like, I was wearing this peach kind of, like, netted kind of styled swimming suit I 1 O underneath.

MS. HEARD: That's what I had on from the waist down, and he just grabbed me, best I can explain it, with his -- shoved his fingers inside me, but through my bathing suit, like, moved my bathing suit out of the way and just kind of held me there and asked me if I was so fucking tough, if I thought I was so fucking tough. "Oh, you're tough like a man now? You're a man now?" Kind of taunting me while jerking me around. And he kind of seemed to do this thing where he was smiling, not just like teasing me, you know? "Oh, yeah. You think you're so fucking tough? Now what?

MS. HEARD: Now what?

MS. HEARD: I don't know what happened after that. I went back into the room, or he went into the room. I don't know who went into the main room first.

MS. HEARD: I just remember his hand landing on the back of my shoulder/neck area. I remember trying to get him off of me. I don't know. I don't know what the next thing that happened was, but I do remember I knew I needed to get away from him. At some point, I ran. I ran out of the back door, ran out onto the patio. At some point before I ran, he swung at me, but I don't even remember how much of an impact it meant -- met -- made. But I remember running. I threw something in his direction when I was getting away from him.

MS. HEARD: I ran down the deck, ran out into the kind of like parking lot area, gravel parking lot area, of the house, and that's my estimation of when Johnny reached me, grabbed me by the hair, swung me around. I remember he hit my face at least once, but I'm not quite sure in what sequence. Was it before I broke away or after, I don't remember. I just remember the lights of the ATV coming up. The island, two of the people who worked on the island for Johnny, CJ and Tara, they pulled up in the ATV. I remember the headlights.

MS. HEARD: I remember separating from him -- or them kind of running up and saying something and separating us. And I didn't see Johnny for the rest of the evening is my recollection. I just found him the next day passed out in the cafe that was close to the house.

THE COURT: Is that the end of --

MS. BREDEHOFT: This is a good breaking point, yes.

THE COURT: All right. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen -- you can just stay there for a moment. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to be breaking. Again, this is time that we break for a week, okay, so I won't be seeing you until May 16th. But I wanted to talk to you a little bit how the remainder of the case will progress, okay? All right. So we promised to get the case to you by Memorial Day. So in order to keep that promise, there's going to be a few things I need from you, okay?

THE COURT: One thing, starting on May 16th, we're going to start having court at 9 a.m, so we'll be going 9 a.m to 5 p.m Some days we might have to go to 5:30, so I want to let you know ahead of time so you can plan accordingly, okay?

THE COURT: The other thing I need from you is Friday, May 27th, which is the Friday before Memorial Day, is going to be a court day. On that day, we're going to have closing arguments, and the case is going to be turned over to you for deliberations on that day, okay? So again, I wanted to let you know ahead of time, so you can plan accordingly so we get this taken care of for you, okay? All right. So those are the announcements I wanted to make for you make sure you have time to schedule what you needed to do.

THE COURT: Now, I also want to go over, as we always do on Thursdays, our responsibilities, the responsibilities you have as jurors, okay, in this case. All right. So you're not to read anything about this case. You are not to watch anything about this case. You're not to listen to anything about this case. This applies to television, newspapers, magazines, the Internet, and any online sites.

THE COURT: Further, you're not to read, watch or listen to anything about this case on any social networking site such as Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, et cetera, or any similar sites. In addition, you must not communicate with anyone about the case, whether in person, over the phone, by email, text, or instant messaging, or by any other electronic or nonelectronic means. This includes friends, family, co-workers, acquaintances, and strangers.

THE COURT: I also instruct you that you cannot do any research or make any inquires about this case, whether online or by any other means. What you learn about this case is limited to what you learn in the four walls of this courtroom when proceedings are underway, okay? So please enjoy your week off. Get plenty of fresh air and rest. All right. And then I'll see you at 9:00 a.m on Monday, May 16th, okay? All right, thank you.

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury exited the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

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THE COURT: All right. And again, ma'am, since you're still in the middle of your testimony, you can't discuss your testimony with anybody to include your attorneys, okay? You can step down, though, and have a seat with your attorneys. I have a few housekeeping matters I want to take care of before we finish.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. First off, I would just remind the litigants that no posting on social media, no talking to the press, and I hope you enjoy your week off.

THE COURT: To the attorneys, I won't see you tomorrow for Friday depositions because we finished all the depositions. I want to thank all of you for last Friday staying here until -- I think it was 9:00 at night, but we got them all done, and I appreciate your work on that. It does mean a lot. And now you're rewarded because you don't have to see me tomorrow. So no more depositions. What I'd also -- for planning purposes, since we're going to be going 9 to 5, the day's going to be a little bit different. So we'll start at 9. We'll probably break for morning break between 10:30 and 10:45. We're going to break for lunch between 12:30 and 1:30, so I want you to plan according for that.

THE COURT: Our afternoon break will probably be between, I don't know, 3: 15 to 3:30, maybe even a little later, 3:45. We'll see. And then we'll try to break at 5. There may be times when we might go to 5 :30, as I told the jury. So I just want to make sure you know that. Since I won't see you tomorrow, I want to go ahead and give you your times as of this very minute of what you have used and what you have left, okay? Are you ready?

THE COURT: Mr. Chew's going to try to do it with a highlighter. That's sweet. There we go. That's right. All right. So plaintiff has used 35 hours and 6 minutes. Defendants have use 36 hours and 31 minutes. Which means the plaintiff has 26 hours and 9 minutes left, and the defendant has 24 hours and 44 minutes left.

THE COURT: And just a reminder, as we said from the very beginning, once time is up, once your time is up, your time is up. If it's in the middle of a witness, I'm going to stop you, okay? So make sure. I mean, the 9-to-5 schedule when he start back at May 15 will give us a little buffer, but not much, so I will be keeping everyone on task for those last two weeks, so keep in mind as well. Enjoy the next week. I don't anticipate I will hear from you for this next week. If there's an emergency, I understand that, but just remember what my definition of an emergency is, okay?

THE COURT: We all remember that? All right. Great. So other than that, does anybody have anything else for me?

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes, Your Honor. It's, just a math question. I'm thinking we have 25.44, as opposed to 24.44.

THE COURT: Sammy says 24.

MS. BREDEHOFT: They have 35.06, and we have 36 point --

THE COURT: If you add 36 hours and 31 minutes and 24 hours and 44 minutes, you get --

THE COURT: You get what?

MS. BREDEHOFT: What is our allotment? Is it 61?

THE COURT: Well, you can get with Sammy when we're done, okay? Is it right or wrong?

MS. BREDEHOFT: What's the total that we've got.

THE COURT: What's that?

MS. BREDEHOFT: What's the total that we have?

THE COURT: 61 hours and 15 minutes. Does that add up then? That is right. Mr. Rottenborn says I'm right. Okay. So that's the right time.

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

THE COURT: Sammy did it three times over, so I thought that was right. You made him very nervous. Okay. So that's good. Everything else? Anything else? Yes, ma'am?

MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, we do have your updated exhibit page that you requested --

THE COURT: Oh, perfect.

MS. VASQUEZ: From plaintiff. May I approach.

THE COURT: That's fine. I think that's something Jamie needed. All right. We'll get that.

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

THE COURT: All right. Anything else?

MS. BREDEHOFT: No, Your Honor.

MS. VASQUEZ: No, Your Honor.

THE COURT: All right. We'll see you Monday, May 16th, 9 a.m, right?

MR. CHEW: Thank you, Your Honor. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

THE COURT: Thank you. Have a good day.

COURT BAILIFF: All rise.

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the trial was recessed at 5:38 p.m to reconvene at 9:00 a.m, Monday, May 16, 2022.)

COURT BAILIFF: IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my notarial seal this 6th day of May, 2022. My Commission Expires: September 30, 2024 NOTARY PUBLIC IN AND FOR THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA