Tyler Hadden — Direct/Cross/Redirect
614 linesCOURT BAILIFF: All rise.
COURT BAILIFF: Please be seated and come to order.
THE COURT: All right. Good morning.
THE COURT: Do we have any preliminary matters before?
MS. BREDEHOFT: We do, Your Honor. May we approach?
THE COURT: Sure.
THE COURT: All right.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I realized, when we were moving the admission of the Saenz exhibits yesterday --
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: That we didn't put the actual exhibit numbers, so I wanted to put those on the record.
THE COURT: Sure, sure.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Defendant's 428.
THE COURT: 428. Got it.
THE COURT: Huh?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Defendant's 1650.
THE COURT: 1650. All right.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Defendant's 315.
THE COURT: 315. Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Defendant's 758.
THE COURT: 758. No particular order,
MS. BREDEHOFT: Sorry about that. 756.
MS. BREDEHOFT: 757. I'm getting a little bit better.
THE COURT: 757. Although, these are probably going to be coming in later?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Then 730 came in.
THE COURT: Got that. I do need the one with redactions.
MS. BREDEHOFT: It was redacted.
THE COURT: I need a copy.
MS. BREDEHOFT: It's not redacted on Your Honor's copy?
THE COURT: We'll check. We'll check. Because I saw redactions. We'll check.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And then we had some confusion yesterday, but Defendant's 686, which is also Plaintiff's 325, wasn't played. It was the O building security video footage. But I think everybody -- I think there was just confusion if it was supposed to be played.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So --
THE COURT: Okay. 686.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Defendant's 686.
THE COURT: You want it in evidence? I think it was already in.
MS. LECAROZ: I think it might be.
THE COURT: 686. 325.
MS. BREDEHOFT: It might be Plaintiff's
THE COURT: Plaintiff's 325. I don't have 325 in evidence. So which one do you want in evidence?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go with Defendant's 686, then, Your Honor.
THE COURT: There's no objection to 686?
MS. LECAROZ: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: 680 -- actually 680 through 688 were in evidence.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Yeah. It was a video question.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And then the ones that are pictures, Your Honor, and those would also be subject to also coming back in, potentially. 715.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Oh, wait. Back up. 717 and 716.
THE COURT: 716. Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And 709.
THE COURT: Okay.
THE COURT: Okay.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: 705. 697.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And I think that's all. And then Hadden would have some of the identical ones. I'm assuming Your Honor is going to still rule that we can put the pictures in front of him.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: But 730 is in, I've spoken with people already on that.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And then, so, for Hadden, it's 715, 707, 717, 709, 710, 711, 712 and 713.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And then we're trying to work on Officer Gatlin.
THE COURT: So Hadden's first today? All right. So we're good with that?
THE COURT: Thank you.
THE COURT: All right. Are we ready for the jury, then?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay.
THE COURT: All right. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Please be seated.
THE COURT: All right. Your next witness.
MR. CHEW: Yes. Good morning, Your Honor. Mr. Depp calls Officer Tyler Hadden. And, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the first part of the testimony you will hear is questioning by Ms. Heard's counsel and then we'll let you know when Mr. Depp's counsel takes over the questioning.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you. By deposition. Thank you.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Please state your name and your business address.
OFFICER HADDEN: Tyler Hadden, 1546 W. Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard, Los Angeles, California.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And what is your occupation?
OFFICER HADDEN: I'm a police officer for the City of Los Angeles.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And how long have you been a police officer with the City of Los Angeles?
OFFICER HADDEN: Approximately, five and a half years.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you serve in any law enforcement capacity prior to coming to the LAPD?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: When you said approximately five and a half years, do you recall, approximately, when you started employment with the LAPD?
OFFICER HADDEN: Approximately, November of 2015.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you attend the police academy prior to November 2015, or did you attend it after you became employed by the LAPD in November of 2015?
OFFICER HADDEN: I began the academy in 2015, that is November.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, could we turn that volume down? That volume's a little loud.
THE COURT: Thank you.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And how long were you with the academy?
OFFICER HADDEN: Approximately, six months.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And when did you start as a patrol officer with the LAPD?
OFFICER HADDEN: Six months after November.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall your date when you started patrol?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall the exact date, no.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And that would be May, end of May of 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And was the first training officer that you worked with on patrol Melissa Saenz?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
COURT REPORTER: Question: When did you first have body-worn video assigned to you?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall the exact date.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Approximately, when?
OFFICER HADDEN: Approximately, three months into I working patrol. So, maybe, during the summertime.
MS. BREDEHOFT: The summer of 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: When you started working with Melissa i Saenz as your training officer, did Officer Saenz have body-worn video?
OFFICER HADDEN: Not at the time I worked with her.
MS. BREDEHOFT: How much training did you have on domestic violence while you were at the academy?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall the exact amount of time.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Approximately, how much?
OFFICER HADDEN: Hours, approximately.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So, just to make sure that I understand, we had a few disrupted questions and answers.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So it's your understanding, as of May 2016, that if you answered a call for domestic violence and there was evidence of a crime, even if the victim did not want to press charges, that you had to take a report; is that correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: If there's evidence of a crime, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So, your best recollection today is that you had been on patrol as a probationary officer, somewhere between a week and three weeks before answering the May 21, 2016 domestic violence call at the Eastern Columbia Building; is that correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall any of the other incidents that you reported to that evening of May 21st, 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: At all? Any part of them?
OFFICER HADDEN: Nope.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So, this was new for you, working with Officer Saenz; is that correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And as a probationary officer, then, you would defer to Officer Saenz; is that fair?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And if you could just describe, to me, what your understanding of Officer Saenz's role was to you, as your training officer, in May 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: To teach me and guide me in how to become a - complete the duties of being a law enforcement officer.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Officer Hadden, under your understanding of the LAPD rules in 2016, if a victim of domestic violence said that the altercation was only verbal would you -- would that require you to write a report?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, I'm going to ask you to take a look at the first page of what has been marked as Deposition Exhibit number 1, Hadden Number -- it's actually Number 3, my apologies. And this is an incident recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: What is your understanding of what this document is, Officer Hadden?
OFFICER HADDEN: It's essentially what is given to us on our computer.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And what do you mean it's given to us on our computer?
OFFICER HADDEN: In our car.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Right. So what happens?
OFFICER HADDEN: So, when we're assigned to radio call, the radio call comes to our computer in our car, and this is what we see on our screen. But in a different format.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, how was this particular call characterized by the dispatch, at least initially?
OFFICER HADDEN: Initially, it was dispatched as a domestic radio call.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And what does "domestic radio call" mean to you?
OFFICER HADDEN: That there's some type of - whether it's disagreement, all the way up to a violent crime that's occurred between two people that are just in some type of relationship or have some involvement.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So, Officer Hadden, this comes out into I the system, and it's accessible by all of the LAPD black-and-whites that were on patrol that night, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes. Whoever's logged in and working / 15 that night. I could look up any division's radio calls, if I wanted to.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And then it has a DS, and then ER after stat. What does that mean?
OFFICER HADDEN: DS means dispatched, ER means we're en route
MS. BREDEHOFT: So, at 8:46 and 37 seconds, p.m., your vehicle was en route to 849 S. Broadway, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall how far away you were?
OFFICER HADDEN: I do not recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And then it says "Primary Unit: PD1A1-W3."
MS. BREDEHOFT: What is that?
OFFICER HADDEN: That's my call assignment. So, the PD is police department, 1A1 is my car assignment, W3 means I work watch 3.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And we have, at 20:57, which is 8:57 p.m., that AS.
MS. BREDEHOFT: What does that mean?
OFFICER HADDEN: At scene. We're there.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. So you arrived at the scene at 8:57 p.m., correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: What did you do then?
OFFICER HADDEN: We walked to the location.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall anything that you did before you went up to the penthouse?
OFFICER HADDEN: We walked in and met with security, who showed us where the elevator was.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you do anything else? on an elevator; is that right?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall what time you arrived at
OFFICER HADDEN: Not that I recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: But your best recollection is that you went in, you talked to security, and then you went the apartment, the penthouse?
OFFICER HADDEN: No, I don't. I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Then your next entry here is 21 :22. So that would be 9:22 p.m., and 57 seconds?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yeah.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Met with victim. Checked Joe. Verified husband left location. Victim advised verbal.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?
OFFICER HADDEN: Uh-huh.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Who wrote that?
OFFICER HADDEN: That's what we write - when we put the comments of the call of what happened in the radio call, that's what we wrote.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So, do you recall whether that was you that wrote that or Officer Saenz?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall who wrote it.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And so, you were back in your vehicle by 9:22; is that correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Approximately, yeah.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, if you wrote this at 9:22, would it be fair to say you were back in your vehicle writing this?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Now, did you take a report?
OFFICER HADDEN: We issued a business card.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I asked, did you take a report?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Why not?
OFFICER HADDEN: Because the victim didn't request a report, and during our investigation, it didn't reveal that we needed to take a report.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So who decided to use the words "victim advised verbal dispute"?
OFFICER HADDEN: Whoever created the comments of the call used the word victim Whoever gave the comments of the call used the word victim So, I don't know who that was. who chose the language "advised verbal dispute"?
OFFICER HADDEN: It was either my partner or I. I don't recall who.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And I'm even more specifically asking, Now, what is the significance of writing down "verbal dispute"?
OFFICER HADDEN: We're writing what happened, what we believe happened and what we - our investigation revealed.
MS. BREDEHOFT: But you were not present, at any time, when Ms. Heard discussed whether there was any type of verbal argument; is that correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Was I there? Yes. Was I speaking to her? No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Was there any discussion of verbal argument in your presence when you were up in the penthouse investigating?
OFFICER HADDEN: Not that I recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You did not hear Ms Heard say that it was only a verbal dispute correct
OFFICER HADDEN: I did not.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, I asked you a little earlier, if it's a verbal dispute, whether that triggers having to write a report. And you indicated that it does not. Am I accurately characterizing that?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, here, in addition to the victim advised verbal dispute, says "and refused to give any further information."
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that? Question: Okay. So if the victim does not want to press charges and
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
OFFICER HADDEN: COURT REPORTER: advises that it's a verbal dispute, then that would not trigger you writing a report? Is that your understanding about LAPD --
MS. BREDEHOFT: Policies and procedures on domestic violence at that time?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct There are other circumstances that were also within this incident as well
MS. BREDEHOFT: What do you mean by that?
OFFICER HADDEN: During our investigation, we had other reasons to believe that this was true.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry. During your investigation, you had other reasons to believe what was true?
OFFICER HADDEN: That it was a verbal dispute.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And what would you have during your investigation that created, in your mind, evidence that it was only a verbal dispute?
OFFICER HADDEN: After discussing the investigation with my partner at the scene, the - Ms. Heard refused any medical treatment and had no visible injuries. There was no sign of struggle. And the victim - correction, the witness that was there, that I spoke with, was uncooperative as well.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Anything else?
OFFICER HADDEN: At this time, that's all.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, you recall seeing that Ms. Heard was in tears and was crying and red-faced; would you agree?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct. From a distance.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, from a distance, Ms. Heard was in tears, crying, and had a red face, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Why did you issue a business card?
OFFICER HADDEN: It's part of our policy. We're •6 supposed to issue a business card, and it shows that we were there and completed an investigation. And if she would like us to come back, we offer that assistance, that we can come back at another I time, if she feels like she needed us to come back.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you take any notes at all?
OFFICER HADDEN: Notes of what?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Notes during the time that you were investigating this call.
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you take any notes after you got back to your car, about the call?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you take any pictures?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you record anything?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Would it be fair to say that on 5/21/2016, at 9:22 p.m., you and your training officer, Saenz, considered this incident closed?
OFFICER HADDEN: I said, yes, that is correct. At that time, we pressed enter and the call went off my screen, meaning it was completed.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you ever have anything come up on your screen, again, relating to this incident that evening?
OFFICER HADDEN: Not that I recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. At the time that you closed out this incident on your screen at 9:22 on 5/21/2016, did you know that this call involved Johnny Depp?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you -- at the time that you closed this out on your screen, were you -- did you recognize Amber Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. I had no idea who she was.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And is it fair to say that you considered these people to be "just citizens"?
OFFICER HADDEN: That's correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have any communications, at all, with Officer Gatlin or his patrol partner the night of May 21st, 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: No, not that I recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: The next thing we're going to go to is the CAD summary, which is at page 12 of exhibit Number 3. And this is a CAD summary report, and it also has the name "DF AR Report" at the top, and it's from 5/21/2016. And says, specifically, Officer Hadden and Officer Saenz.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Typically, when you would arrive for your shift, was there a period of time that you would do things, maybe, at the precinct or whatever before you get in your vehicle and log on and go forward?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: What, typically, would you do back in 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: I would change, put on my uniform, and then I would have a roll call, where we would be given our assignments. And then we would stand in line and check out our equipment and check out our car. And then we have to go put our equipment in the car and then wash the car, vacuum the car, gas the car. And then go and find out if there's any radio calls pending.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And so, how long would it typically take for you to do all those things, from putting your uniform on through the time you start checking for radio calls?
OFFICER HADDEN: I'm not sure. Approximately, an hour.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. How many people, how many police officers, patrol officers, were part of that roll call?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't know the exact number. I'd say, approximately, 30.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And when you said you had to stand in line to check out your equipment, was it all 30 of those patrol officers that would get in line and check out their equipment?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes. And supervisors.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And what equipment were you checking out that night?
OFFICER HADDEN: A shotgun, a less-lethal shotgun, mics for cameras inside the car, pouches for our mics, batteries for our radios, keys for the cars, taser. I think that's about it right now.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you have a recollection of there being cameras inside your car back on May 21, 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes, I believe so.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, when you arrived at the penthouse, you saw that there was a female holding and embracing Ms. Heard, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: I believe it was when I was leaving the location. When we were getting ready to leave.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, you believed that Ms. Heard was uncooperative because she was being emotionally crying, was refusing that she was hurt, and she didn't know, initially, whether she wanted to file a report or not, and then she didn't want to file a report, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, you said that Officer Saenz told you, later, that Ms. Heard called the number on you that Ms. Heard called the number on the card?
OFFICER HADDEN: No, I don't - I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall, approximately, how much time you spent at the penthouse speaking with the business card. Do you recall when Officer Saenz told either the male or with Ms. Heard or looking at the premises that night?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall right now.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall, roughly, whether it was I 13 15 minutes, a half hour, hour?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't- I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to take a look at what has been marked as Deposition Exhibit Number 17. I'll just scroll down so you can see that. Hold on. Do you recognize the person in this photo?
OFFICER HADDEN: I believe that's Ms. Heard.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Is this the same person you saw on the night of May 21st, 2016, when you arrived sometime after 9:04 p.m.? And do you recall seeing the red marks that are reflected on this Exhibit Number 17, on Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: No, I was never this close to be able to examine her face.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You were never close enough to Ms. Heard to be able to examine her face; is that what you're saying?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. If you had seen these -- this mark, close enough to be able to see it, would you have believed you had an obligation to prepare a report?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. Because I don't know what this is from. I ...
MS. BREDEHOFT: Would you agree it's a red mark on her face?
OFFICER HADDEN: From what I saw, it was red from her crying. There was no red marks from any other thing. It was consistent with her crying.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Does this look like a red mark that's from crying? Officer Hadden, in reviewing this picture, does it appear that there's an injury on Ms. Beard's face in this picture?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You would say that doesn't evidence an injury?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Why not?
OFFICER HADDEN: Because I don't see an injury.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to show you what has been marked as Deposition exhibit Number 18.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you recognize this carpeting?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Officer Hadden, what do you see in this picture?
OFFICER HADDEN: I see stripes with some type of thing on the possible flooring.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Do you have a recollection of seeing stains on the flooring outside of Ms. Heard's penthouse that night of May 21st, 2016? that you can recall, what do you mean by that?
OFFICER HADDEN: At this point, not that I recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And when you say, at this point, not
OFFICER HADDEN: It's five years ago. I don't remember.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Officer Hadden, I'm going to show you what has been marked as Hadden Exhibit Number 19.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize the business card?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And tell me what you can recall of that.
OFFICER HADDEN: Well, that's my handwriting, and those are our LAPD business cards.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. The next thing on there is "refused report." Do you see that?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Was it your understanding that
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes. Ms. Heard did not want to press charges?
OFFICER HADDEN: She spoke with my partner, and that's what my partner advised me.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Were you ever in the room when Ms. Heard either refused report or refused to press charges?
OFFICER HADDEN: I believe we offered her one final chance before we gave her the business card, if she needed medical treatment or report, and she declined at that time, and that's when we issued I 6 the business card.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And what did you mean by "report"?
OFFICER HADDEN: An official investigative report.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Is that the victim's choice, to I write -- whether you write an official I investigative report?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes. A citizen can ask for a report or I anything, essentially, with LAPD.
MS. BREDEHOFT: But do you have an obligation, as an LAPD patrol officer, to write a report if you see injuries or property damage?
OFFICER HADDEN: If there's evidence of a crime, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And when you say "if there's evidence of a crime," would injuries and property damage constitute evidence of a crime?
OFFICER HADDEN: If there's evidence of a crime, yeah.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Is there something different about what you're saying and what I'm asking? I'm trying to understand, when I say "if you see evidence of injuries and property damage," is that evidence of a crime, in your mind?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes. If the person didn't do it themselves. I mean, I can damage my own property; it's not a crime.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Did you have any reason to believe that Amber Heard created any injuries to herself or to her property at the time you were there on May 21st, 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. I don't recall seeing any damaged property or her obtaining any injuries -- or having visible injuries that I saw.
MS. BREDEHOFT: It says "advised can call at later time if changes mind."
MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, discussion did you have with Officer Saenz about what that meant?
OFFICER HADDEN: Well, that goes with what I said earlier, was a citizen can make a report about anything, at any time. It's called an investigative report or an incident report. So if she wanted a report, then she'd call us back, and we'll take a report.
MS. BREDEHOFT: But, at that point, you had already written, into your system, that the victim advised verbal dispute only, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And you did not write a report or take pictures or create any kind of record, did you, of anything that transpired there?
OFFICER HADDEN: Just the business card.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you, Officer Hadden, to take a look at what has been marked as Deposition exhibit Number 24.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize the person in this picture?
OFFICER HADDEN: Ms. Heard.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize her as Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. I had no idea who she was.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize the person in this picture, on Hadden Exhibit Number 24, as the person who was the subject of your and Officer Saenz's reporting to the Eastern Columbia Building that evening?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. So let's go to exhibit Number 24.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And, do you -- what do you see in this picture with respect to whether there's any injury depicted on Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: I see a female, light, fair-skinned, with a pink cheek.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry, with a what?
OFFICER HADDEN: Pink cheek and pink eyes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Do you recognize that as potential injury on her face?
OFFICER HADDEN: Knowing what our investigation revealed, no. That pink's consistent with crying.
MS. BREDEHOFT: What do you mean by what your "investigation revealed"?
OFFICER HADDEN: That it was a verbal dispute and she refused that she had any injury.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And just so we're clear, again, you were never in the presence of Ms. Heard when she, connect?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, when you, as a police officer, investigating, if you saw this, what's depicted in ! 5 this picture, would you believe that you needed to investigate further?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yeah, I would need additional Is information, just because I see a female with pink cheeks and pink eyes. Doesn't mean something ' ! happened.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right.
OFFICER HADDEN: Maybe she can be sad and crying that their dog died.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you engage in any further investigation?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. The only investigation I did was part of speaking with my partner and then speaking with the witness -- with the witness, the next-door neighbor.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And what did you discuss with the witness, the next-door neighbor?
OFFICER HADDEN: I tried to obtain information of what occurred.
MS. BREDEHOFT: What did you ask?
OFFICER HADDEN: Who, what, when, where, why?
MS. BREDEHOFT: And what did he say?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't remember his exact words, but he wasn't very coming with the information. Very vague information, as far as what he was telling me.
MS. BREDEHOFT: What do you specifically recall the witness telling you?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You don't recall at all?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall specific words or sentences.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall the witness taking you around and showing you property damage in the penthouse?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. I recall my partner and I doing a protective sweep, and that's it.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You don't recall Josh Drew being with you and taking you through?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall. I don't recall someone else being with us, no.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall one way or the other?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Now, you have a recollection of you and Officer Saenz going through the entire penthouse; is that correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: We did a protective sweep of the location that she was at.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And tell me what you mean by "protective sweep."
OFFICER HADDEN: We walked through the general housing there, that she was at, to make sure there's no one else there that shouldn't be there or there's no one hurt.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall how many rooms you went through?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. No, I don't.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Let me ask you, Officer Hadden, to take a look at number 25.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this as Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And do you see any injuries PIANE I depicted on this picture?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. I:
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to show you what has been marked as exhibit Number 26.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this as Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Do you see any injuries in this picture, on Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you the same question, exhibit Number 27.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this as Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you see any injuries in this picture, on Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask the same questions. Officer Hadden, I'm going to ask you to look at Hadden Exhibit Number 28. Do you recognize this as Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you see any injuries depicted on Ms. Heard's face in this picture?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Show you Exhibit number 29.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this as Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see any injuries on Ms. Heard in this picture?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, you indicated that you and Officer Saenz went through the apartment, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct. We did a protective sweep.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Protective sweep. And in doing the protective sweep, you did go into each room, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Well, I mean, I don't know exactly where we went, but we walked around what she claimed was her living quarters.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Would you agree that if Ms. Heard displayed injuries at the time that you reported to her residence, after the domestic violence call, that you would have had an obligation to prepare a report?
OFFICER HADDEN: If there was injuries or a complaint of pain, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry; injuries or what?
OFFICER HADDEN: Complaint of pain.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Would you agree that if Ms. Heard displayed injuries that you perceived to be injuries at the time you reported to Ms. Heard's residence, after the domestic violence call on May 21st, 2016, you had an obligation to prepare a report?
OFFICER HADDEN: If I perceived them to be injuries, then, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Would you agree that if there was property damage present at the time you reported to Ms. Beard's residence, after the domestic violence call, you had an obligation to prepare a report?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. Because if she's living there, that's her property, and she's being uncooperative and doesn't say that someone else did it or anyone else did it, then, I have no other information to go off of. She could have broken it herself.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Officer Hadden, did you provide any pamphlets to Ms. Heard, you or Officer Saenz, relating to domestic violence?
OFFICER HADDEN: I personally did not.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know whether Officer Saenz did?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't know.
MR. CHEW: And ladies and gentlemen, at this point, counsel for Mr. Depp takes over the questioning
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
OFFICER HADDEN: I believe mo.
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall exactly. I think it \as, approximately, ten feet
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
OFFICER HADDEN: No. I wear contacts, though, so I can see perfectly fine.
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MR. CHEW: Did you have any trouble seeing the contours of her face the first time you saw her that evening? ,14
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MR. CHEW: Did you perceive any signs of injury on her face or anywhere else on her body that was visible to you?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
OFFICER HADDEN: Few seconds. Not very long.
OFFICER HADDEN: Right before we left.
OFFICER HADDEN: Approximately ten feet.
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
OFFICER HADDEN: I did. Yes.
OFFICER HADDEN: I believe so. I believe it was - the •14 light was a little dimmer, but it was still lit.
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MR. CHEW: Did you see any swelling, of any kind, on her face, either during the first time you saw her or the second time you saw her that night?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MR. CHEW: Did you see any marks on her face, either the first time you observed her that night or the second time you observed her?
OFFICER HADDEN: Just the redness, which was consistent with her crying.
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MR. CHEW: Did you see, at any time that evening, any indication or any sign, whatsoever, of any injury to her face?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MR. CHEW: And going to your -- was it the security -- what was the term you used, the security sweep; is that correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: The protective sweep?
OFFICER HADDEN: My access what? Sorry.
OFFICER HADDEN: The witness that was there, he kind of - I believe he guided us kind of through the place. I don't know, you know, where he guided us through.
MR. CHEW: Did you see any broken glass anywhere in the penthouse, where you did the protective sweep?
OFFICER HADDEN: Not that I remember.
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
OFFICER HADDEN: Signs of - or any evidence that a crime has occurred.
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MR. CHEW: And why do you look for potential signs of vandalism or disturbance to property in the course of a domestic violence allegation or possibility?
OFFICER HADDEN: Just because that tends to happen when I some type of domestic altercation occurs between two people.
OFFICER HADDEN: Not that I recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection.
OFFICER HADDEN: Not that I recall. If they were visible or complained to me.
MR. CHEW: Do you recall some questioning from Ms. Heard's counsel Ms. Bredehoft, about a man who led you through the penthouses on the evening of May 21, 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
OFFICER HADDEN: I attempted to gather information of who the husband was and what occurred and where he possibly went, so we could interview kind of all the different parties, and he wouldn't give me his name of who the husband was.
OFFICER HADDEN: I'd say, approximately, five to ten minutes.
MR. CHEW: Did he report to you, in words or I substance, that any domestic violence had I occurred?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall any exact verbiage he said.
OFFICER HADDEN: No. Not that I recall.
MR. CHEW: On the evening that you and your partner got a call to the penthouse on May 21, 2016, were you and your partner in a particular hurry to close out this incident?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
OFFICER HADDEN: When we - when we dispo the call and we get rid of the call, we leave our comments of what occurred and what we did in that call.
OFFICER HADDEN: No, unless it's at the request of one of the parties.
MR. CHEW: When you were typing in your computer to add text to a call, is it common to refer to the focused individual in the call as a victim, whether she -- whether a crime has been committed or not?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes. Because that's how the call was broadcasted and created.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, there was another woman that was present as well, correct, that night?
OFFICER HADDEN: I believe so, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you remember testifying earlier that, at the end, she was holding and embracing Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yeah, I believe she was on - sitting on the couch with her when we left.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you interview that woman?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. She was with Ms. Heard when my partner was speaking with her, I believe. I never spoke to her.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. I was going to say, did you ever attempt to interview that woman that was on the couch, who was embracing Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. Because I was speaking with the gentleman outside.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know whether Officer Saenz ever attempted to interview that woman who was sitting on the couch with Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: I'm unaware.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, let's go back to the description that you gave, and you responded, again, to it with Mr. Chew, that she had -- she was crying and had a red face. And you said the redness was consistent with crying. Do you recall that?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Why was she crying?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't know. That's a great question. I don't know why she was crying.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you ask her?
OFFICER HADDEN: I personally did not because my partner interviewed her.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Then when you downloaded with your partner later, did you ask Officer Saenz why Amber Heard was crying?
OFFICER HADDEN: No. My partner never advised me if she spoke with her while I was speaking with the gentleman.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall that you testified that I there was another woman who was embracing Ms. Heard on the sofa at the end of your visit?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall asking why she was embracing and holding Ms. Heard, why did you not ask, either the other woman or Ms. Heard, why the woman was embracing and holding Ms. Heard?
OFFICER HADDEN: Why I did not is because we were trained, in the academy, to separate the parties and to try and attempt to build a rapport with the individual you're speaking with. Therefore, it was two females, and my partner is female, so, therefore, my partner spoke with the females.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Would it be fair to say that you deferred to Officer Saenz to conduct any type of investigation with both Ms. Heard and the other woman who was embracing her?
OFFICER HADDEN: I know my partner spoke with Ms. Heard. I am unaware, I cannot testify if she spoke with the other female.
MS. BREDEHOFT: When you said you learned at the academy divide up the parties, was it your understanding that "parties" meant the victim and the suspect?
OFFICER HADDEN: All parties.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know whether anyone made an attempt to divide up the woman from Ms. Heard, the woman that was embracing her?
OFFICER HADDEN: I'm unaware.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, the redness that you said was on Ms. Heard's face when she was crying and emotional could it also have been consistent with injury?
OFFICER HADDEN: I do not think so. I perceived it as redness from crying.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you consider whether the redness on the face might be from something in addition to crying?
OFFICER HADDEN: No, I did not.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And you had never met Ms. Heard before, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Never. Never even seen her.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And would it be fair to say that you don't know what Ms. Heard's -- what her characteristics are for swelling, bruising, redness, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you, Officer Hadden, to look at what has been marked as Hadden Exhibit Number 8. And it's from the office of the Chief of Police, and it's dated November 24, 2014, and the subject is "Domestic Violence Supplemental Report, Form 115.40.02- Revised."
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?
OFFICER HADDEN: I do.
MS. BREDEHOFT: This was provided to us by the LAPD in response to our document requests.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have an understanding that there was a domestic violence supplemental report form that was in place as of May 21st, 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to show you what is Exhibit Number 9, and this is called "Domestic Violence Supplemental Report."
MS. BREDEHOFT: And it is something -- is it your understanding that the police officer fills this out?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes, we fill that out.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Do you recall whether you had filled out this supplemental report, at any time, prior to May 21st, 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, if you look at the first column on the domestic violence supplemental report, it has a column that says "victim," and then there are a number of descriptive words underneath those boxes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Now the first one is
OFFICER HADDEN: I do. shaking. What, if any, observation did you make of Ms. Heard shaking?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. What, if any, observations did you make about Ms. Heard being unresponsive?
OFFICER HADDEN: The little time I dealt with her, yeah, she was unresponsive and crying.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry. I didn't catch the first part. She was unresponsive and crying, did you say?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And I guess you've answered the s third one here, that she was crying, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And what, if any, observations did you make whether Amber Heard was scared?
OFFICER HADDEN: I didn't.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You didn't what?
OFFICER HADDEN: I did not observe.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry. Are you finished with that answer? It sounded like it was a half. I just s want to make sure you were finished.
OFFICER HADDEN: Yeah. I did not observe her being fearful.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. But Ms. Heard did not want to file a report, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: She did not want to press charges, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And she did not want to tell you the name of her husband, correct?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't know because I didn't talk to her.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, do you recall testifying earlier that Ms. Heard was uncooperative?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yeah. She was uncooperative with my partner.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And do you recall testifying that Ms. Heard was uncooperative because she was emotional, she was crying, she wasn't sure whether she wanted to file a report or not, and she was not -- then she said she did not want to?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yeah. That's what she had spoken to my partner about.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know why Ms. Heard did not want to file a report, or did not want to press charges?
OFFICER HADDEN: No, I do not.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Officer Hadden, I'm going to show you what's been marked as Deposition Exhibit Number 10, and I'm going to have you look that -- it starts out with field notebook divider, domestic violence laws, LAPD 18.30.02, and it has the date. This is the date of January 31, 2010 at the bottom, with the footnote.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to just direct your attention here to case preparation, and this is relating to domestic violence laws, case preparation says IO "note the complainant's emotional and physical condition."
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And then "Ensure all evidence is gathered and preserved, e.g., bloodied clothing, damaged phones, damaged property."
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Did you or Officer Saenz provide any kind of notes relating to Ms. Beard's emotional and physical condition on May 21, 2016?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you or Officer Saenz ensure all the evidence was gathered and preserved, including any damaged property?
OFFICER HADDEN: I said, no. And all of these things would have been documented if there was a report.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Let's go to the next bullet. It says "Ensure photographs are taken of injuries or lack of injury to complainant and accused, both the day of and a day or two after." Did you take any photographs to show a lack of injury?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you take any photos to show a lack of damage?
OFFICER HADDEN: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And then, this next one is, "Ensure photographs are taken of the scene and damaged property, et cetera."
MS. BREDEHOFT: So I've already asked you that one, so let's go to the next one. Canvass location, interview all witnesses, including children, neighbors, law enforcement.
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Who did you interview?
OFFICER HADDEN: I spoke with the gentleman.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Anyone else?
OFFICER HADDEN: No, that's it.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, there were two females present in addition to Ms. Heard; were there not?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes. Including her. I believe there was two.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You don't recall the third woman there?
OFFICER HADDEN: No, I don't recall a third woman being there.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Did you ask if there was anybody else that was present who had witnessed any aspect of this?
OFFICER HADDEN: I don't recall exactly, but...
MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to Exhibit Number 11. So what did you determine this call was after your investigation?
OFFICER HADDEN: Dispute, a verbal dispute. It's not against the law to argue. I argue with my wife.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So you decided that there was only a verbal dispute, therefore, it didn't constitute domestic violence?
OFFICER HADDEN: From the information or lack of information I was able to receive from the witness and the information my partner had gathered, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Is it your understanding that a police officer can be brought up on charges of misconduct IO if they engage in neglect of duty?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Is it also your understanding that a police officer can be brought up on misconduct charges at the LAPD if they violate department policies, rules, or procedures?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And is it your understanding that a police officer can be brought up on charges of misconduct if they engage in conduct which may tend to reflect unfavorably upon the employee or the department?
OFFICER HADDEN: Yes.