Depp v. Heard Transcript Laura Wasser
Depp v. Heard / Day 10 / April 27, 2022
6 pages · 5 witnesses · 2,874 lines
Day 10 examined the May 21, 2016 penthouse incident through LAPD and building-staff testimony that exposed investigative gaps, then shifted to deposition evidence on career damages, post-TRO conduct, and divorce proceedings.
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THE COURT: All right. Your next witness.

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MS. LECAROZ: Plaintiff calls Laura Wasser by deposition, Your Honor, W-A-S-S-E-R.

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THE COURT: Thank you.

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[SECTION HEADER]: EXAMINATION BY COUNSEL FOR THE DEFENDANT AND BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Will you please state your name and address for the record.

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LAURA WASSER: Laura Allison Wasser, Wasser, Cooperman & handles, Suite 800, 2049 Century Park East, Los Angeles, California 90049.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you. What is your occupation?

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LAURA WASSER: I'm an attorney at law.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And how Jong have you been an attorney?

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LAURA WASSER: Years.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: You represented Mr. Depp in the divorce against Amber Heard; is that correct?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And you are here under subpoena?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Your practice has primarily been focused on domestic relations in California; is ! 22 that correct?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Are you a member of any bar other than California?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: During the period of 2012 through 2016, I was California a no-fault state with respect to divorce?

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LAURA WASSER: The answer is that California was a no-fault state during that period.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: During the period of 2012 to 2016, was California a community property state, with respect to the division of assets in a divorce?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And what does that mean to you?

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LAURA WASSER: California is a community property state, and what that means, to me, is that assets which were earned or created during the course of the marriage, absent some other theory of law applied, be divided equally.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And what do you mean by "absent some other theory of law applied"?

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LAURA WASSER: I'm sorry, Elaine. What was the question? Oh, a. theory of law? When I say a theory of law meaning if there's a premarital agreement, if there's some other, it's not completely blanket community property. There may be things that were earned from a separate property source that would not be considered community property. So I was just trying to provide, for the record, some exceptions to what would be considered community property and, therefore, divided equally.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, if someone alleges domestic violence or abuse against their spouse, would that change the amount they would otherwise be entitled to under community property laws?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: In obtaining a temporary restraining order, what is your understanding of the process?

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LAURA WASSER: The moving party files, generally with 24 hour's notice to the person who is being accused of domestic violence, a declaration and forms with the Court and requests a temporary domestic violence restraining order. That generally last no longer than a 21-day period, when the defendant is able to make his or her arguments as to why such a restraining order would be inappropriate.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And the temporary restraining order, can it be continued?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes. When did you first begin representing Mr. Depp relating to his divorce with Amber Heard?

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LAURA WASSER: I believe it was in December of 2015.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to pull up Document 1, Wasser Document 1. Let's go ahead and label that as Wasser Exhibit Number 1.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Wasser, I'm going to ask you to take a look at what has been marked as Wasser Deposition Exhibit Number 1. It is a letter dated May 24, 2016. It's addressed to Jake Bloom, and it says "Re: In the marriage of Depp."

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And it's from Samantha Spector, who indicates she's representing Amber Heard.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: As of the time of this letter, had you made known to Amber Heard or Ms. Spector or anyone j! else related to them that you represented Mr. Depp?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't believe so.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you receive a copy of this letter from someone?

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LAURA WASSER: I believe so. I think I've seen it before, so yes.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you receive this letter on or around May 24, 2016?

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LAURA WASSER: Okay. Next page, please. Hang on. Yes, it was around that time.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Around May 24, 2016?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have any communications with I Samantha Spector in connection with this letter?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And when you say within days, could it have been the same day, the 24th, the next day, the 25th?

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LAURA WASSER: Probably.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to direct your attention to the next paragraph. It says, "To this end, please have Johnny promptly sign and return, by Friday, May 27, 2016, the enclosed notice and acknowledgement of receipt form confirming service of the summons, petition, law case cover sheet and blank response."

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you do that?

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LAURA WASSER: This letter was not directed to me, IO Elaine.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: No, I understand that. But it was given to you, correct?

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LAURA WASSER: I believe so.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And you were representing Mr. Depp, correct?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And Mr. Bloom did not represent I Mr. Depp in connection with the divorce, correct?

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LAURA WASSER: Correct.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So once Mr. Bloom gave this to you, then did you represent Mr. Depp going forward in communications with Samantha Spector?

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LAURA WASSER: Once we received this letter, our firm took over with representation of Mr. Depp in the dissolution action. I do not recall whether or not the request made was done by Friday, May 27th, but I believe that it was. Probably got that notice and acknowledgment of receipt somewhere with the date on it.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, the next section, I think, is something you referred to earlier. It says, "In addition, we are requesting on Amber's behalf the following," and it says, "appropriate pendente lite support."

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Would you have an understanding of what that amount might be at the time that you saw this letter?

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LAURA WASSER: I did not have an understanding of what appropriate pendente lite support would be at that time.

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LAURA WASSER: Did you ask Samantha Spector? I don't recall. I don't recall specific communications regarding her requests.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall making any kind of y g y I counter to any of these items?

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LAURA WASSER: All I recall is that without any notice to us, at 8:30 in the morning of the 27th, Samantha Spector and her client went into court and obtained a no-notice ex parte restraining order.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Had you had any communications with Samantha Spector prior to her going into court on that Friday, May 27th?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: How many communications had you had with Ms. Spector prior -- prior to receiving this letter and prior to her going into court at 8:30 on May 27, 2016?

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LAURA WASSER: I do not recall.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you have a recollection of whether any of the communications that you had with Ms. Spector between the receipt of this letter that's dated May 24, 2016, and going -- and Ms. Spector going into court on Friday, May 27th, 2016, related in any way to requests on your behalf -- on behalf of your client that you made?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: You recall having communications with Samantha Spector between May 24 and May 27, you can't recall how many, and you can't recall the specifics of those communications; is that accurate?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: It's not accurate. And in what way is it not accurate?

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LAURA WASSER: I recall that we had communications between the 24th and probably the 26th. I doubt we spoke on the morning of the 27th before she went into court. I do not know the contents of those communications, and I do not know how many communications were had.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, on the next paragraph, it has a proposal for private retired judicial officers. Ultimately, did you and Ms. Spector talk about using a private retired judicial officer whether it was the list she provided or any others?

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LAURA WASSER: I believe so, yes.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And what do you recall?

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LAURA WASSER: My recollection is that in almost all of our cases, certainly those with high-profile clients, we would have liked to take it out of the system. Ms. Spector was not willing to do that with this case.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What do you recall Ms. Spector saying to indicate that she did not want to take it out of the system?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't recall her saying anything.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, after -- your understanding was that a CLETS DVTRO was, in fact, obtained on Friday, May 27th, 2016, by Ms. Heard against Mr. Depp, correct?

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LAURA WASSER: That is my understanding. I,

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. After that, did there come a time that you or anyone on -- at your law finn 1116 communicated with the Eastern Columbia Building concierge staff or management? .18

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LAURA WASSER: Were those the downtown Lofts?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: The Penthouse Lofts, yes. And if it's easier for you, everyone has been referring to the Eastern Columbia Building as ECB. Would that be helpful at all?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: If you prefer to call them the penthouse Lofts building, that's fine too.

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LAURA WASSER: Now that I know what you were talking about, we can call them whatever you like.

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LAURA WASSER: Did someone from my firm speak with somebody at those buildings? Yes.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And who from your from spoke with someone at the building and when?

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LAURA WASSER: I believe either I did or my partner, Samantha Klein, or an associate who was also working on the case, Lisa Sutton, from our firm. We also had co-counsel on the case. They may have been involved.

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LAURA WASSER: As to when, I have to imagine it was sometime in June or July of 2016.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, you indicated either you or Samantha Klein, Lisa Sutton, and you also had co-counsel. Do you have a specific recollection of speaking with anyone at the ECB building?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What were Samantha Klein's communications with the ECB building?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't know.

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LAURA WASSER: COURT REPORTER: What were Samantha Klein's communications with the ECB building?

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LAURA WASSER: And her answer was "I don't know."

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LAURA WASSER: Thank you.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What were Lisa Sutton's communications with the ECB building?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't know.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What were your co-counsel's communications with the ECB building? When I say "ECB building," I'm not talking about the structure; I'm talking about the individuals who worked there.

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LAURA WASSER: I don't know.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And just so we're clear here, you don't recall any communications with the ECB building staff as well, correct?

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LAURA WASSER: You asked me if I had a specific recollection. I do not.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you have a general recollection?

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LAURA WASSER: I believe that at some point, we I subpoenaed the building's records of the video from the lobby and elevator areas. So I would imagine that the communications would have to do with those subpoenas.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Are you able to testify to any conversation you or anyone at your from or your co-counsel had with the ECB building staff?

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LAURA WASSER: I am sure that there were conversations and communications regarding the production of the subpoenaed documents, review of the subpoenaed documents, that our compliance with -- I believe it was Ms. Spector's subpoena that was sent, our ability to review the videos, coordination of same.

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LAURA WASSER: But I don't have a specific recollection of any communications.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Are you able to speak to whether there I 1 s were any conversations between you, anyone at your I law from, or your co-counsel and ECB building personnel prior to your issuing the subpoena?

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LAURA WASSER: Also, I don't believe that the subpoena was issued by our firm.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So you don't have a recollection of a subpoena being issued on Mr. Depp's behalf for the ECB building surveillance tapes?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't know. I know there was one !

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LAURA WASSER: Issued. I believe it was issued by Ms. Spector.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's talk about the videos that you just referred to from the ECB building staff.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: How did you and your finn or your co-counsel receive these videos?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't recall. I would imagine like n an e-file or something like that.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, is it your recollection that there was just one e-file that contained all of the surveillance tapes?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't have a recollection as to whether it was one or seven or what. I just don't know.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: When you were talking about receiving

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MS. BREDEHOFT: The video surveillance footage, whether it was one file or seven files or eight files or whatever, did you have an understanding that you were not provided the full amount that was requested, whatever the amount was?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So you thought you received whatever you were supposed to receive; is that fair?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What did you do with the actual surveillance footage that you received?

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LAURA WASSER: I believe we kept it on the computer at least for the next couple of months in preparation for trial. I don't know where it is now.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: That's my next question.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Is there a time that you no longer possessed the video surveillance footage that was sent to you by the ECB building?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't know.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Wasser, I'm going to ask you to take a look at what has been marked as Wasser Deposition exhibit Number 2, and it's a multipage document, and so I'm going to scroll down a little bit, but you let me know if I'm going too fast here. It's dated June 3rd, and it's to Samantha Klein. She's with your -- she was working with y g you on the Depp case, correct?

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LAURA WASSER: Correct.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And it's from Samantha Spector, which you can see there, and I'll show you the signature later. And it's a litigation called preservation of information, and it's not limited to electronically stored information.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall receiving this letter? If you want me to scroll down and let you read each page, I'm happy to do that first.

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LAURA WASSER: I'm familiar with this letter. I recall receiving it, yes.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And did you receive this letter before you received the surveillance footage from the ECB building?

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LAURA WASSER: I am not sure.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, I think you had indicated that you thought that it was in June or July that you received the surveillance footage.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Is that still your best recollection?

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LAURA WASSER: I - looking at the date and knowing the chronology of the case, it is my best estimate that we received this letter prior to the time that we received the video footage.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Wasser, what steps did you and your firm and co-counsel take to preserve the surveillance video footage of ECB from the time you received it going forward?

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LAURA WASSER: I think the absence of us doing anything to destroy the video footage would be the most I could testify regarding in terms of steps that we took to preserve video footage.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Are you aware of any destruction of the video footage, surveillance video footage, of ECB up to the present?

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LAURA WASSER: No. We probably still have it.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Have you looked for it?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Have you been asked to look for it?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to take a look at what has now been marked as Wasser Deposition Exhibit Number 3, and it's dated June 6th, 2013, addressed to you, and it's from Charles Carter.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have an understanding that Mr. Carter also represented Amber Heard?

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LAURA WASSER: I did when I received this letter on June 6th.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And did you have an understanding that Mr. Carter was also asking you to preserve any evidence?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Wasser, I'm going to ask you to take a look at what has been marked as Wasser Deposition Exhibit Number 4, dated June 6th as well, and it's to Charles Carter from your firm. And you are acknowledging receipt of the preservation letter from Ms. Heard as well as his. And you indicated, "We are fully aware of our obligations with respect to preservation of evidence. Please rest assured that we intend to comply with the preservation demand and expect that Ms. Heard will do so as well."

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall saying that in this letter?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And was this letter, in fact, only to Ms. Heard?

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LAURA WASSER: It was.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Wasser, I'm going to ask you to take a look at what's been marked as Wasser Deposition number 5. It's a letter dated June 21, 2016, to Samantha Spector, Charles Carter, and Leonard Levine, I think it's pronounced, Re: Marriage of Depp, and it's from Samantha Klein.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

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LAURA WASSER: Uh-huh.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And you are copied on it. Do you see that?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And Ms. Klein worked with your Jaw finn?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And represented Mr. Depp as well; is that correct?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. I'm going to go back up to the beginning to call your attention to a particular section. It says, "This letter shall confirm the agreements we reached yesterday with respect to the pending domestic violence proceeding."

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

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LAURA WASSER: Uh-huh.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Then you're going to go down to the media press, and it says, "Neither party nor his or her respective counsel representatives, or agents shall make any comments to media or press pertaining to this dissolution action, the civil action pending against Constanope [sic], and/or any pending or future litigation between and/or involving the parties."

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Does that accurately reflect the agreement that was made between the parties with respect to Amber Heard and Mr. Depp and communication to the press?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you know Ms. Walters?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Walters?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And who is she?

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LAURA WASSER: She is a reporter.

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LAURA WASSER: I believe she works for her brother's online media outlet called The Blast.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have any communication with Liz Walters during the Depp/Heard divorce?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't recall.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you have any communications with TMZ relating to the Depp/Heard divorce?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't recall.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, do you recall what the date was for the permanent TRO, temporary restraining order? Do you recall the date that -- you said that early on, 21 days after the temporary restraining order is typically the date that set the hearing for the defendant if they want to come in and oppose it or if the petitioner wants to extend it.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall what the first date was?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't. But I would imagine it was probably at some point in early June. i 5

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MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And then do you recall that date being continued?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: How many times?

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LAURA WASSER: At least twice, possibly three times. I think that the final date was at some point in August, and we settled right before then.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Alan, can l we bring up number -- document number 7. Thank you.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Wasser, I'm going to ask you to take a look at what's been marked as Wasser Exhibit Number 7. It is dated August 5, 2016. It is to you from Samantha Spector. Do you see that?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall -- did you receive this document?

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LAURA WASSER: Doesn't it say at the top that it's protected under 1152?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: It sure does. All I'm asking is whether you received it or not. I'm not asking you about the substance.

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LAURA WASSER: I don't remember.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you have any reason to believe that you did not receive it?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Wasser, I'm going to ask you to take a look at what's been marked as Wasser Deposition exhibit Number 8. And it starts out with an email from Samantha Spector to Amber on August 6th, 2016.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall what was going on, on or around August of with the divorce, in connection with the divorce?

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LAURA WASSER: Not specifically, no.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know who Christian Carino is?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Who is he?

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LAURA WASSER: He's an agent at Creative Artists Agency.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: How long have you known Christian Carino?

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LAURA WASSER: I've known of Christian for maybe 10 years.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Were you aware that Mr. Carino was involved in organizing, if you will, or assisting Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard with their own meeting to try to resolve their case up in San Francisco?

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LAURA WASSER: Possibly. That sounds vaguely familiar.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Were you on the telephone at any point while Amber Heard and Johnny Depp were meeting to discuss attempted resolution of the issues during summer of 2016?

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LAURA WASSER: What was your question? Was I on the telephone?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Were you on the telephone where Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard were in the hotel and were talking?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Were you ever on the telephone when Ms. Heard and Mr. Depp were together talking during the Summer of 2016, no matter where they were?

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LAURA WASSER: On the telephone?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: While he was with Ms. Heard and I Ms. Heard was on speaker -- and you were on ! 10 speakerphone with the two of them?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: You recognize the name -- let me get this here.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: COURT REPORTER: Do you recognize the name on what?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Joe Sweeney.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And who was he?

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LAURA WASSER: Joe Sweeney is a forensic accountant who specializes in family law forensic accounting and he was Ms Heard's forensic accountant in the DISO matter DISO matter.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And was Edward White acting as forensic accountant for Mr. Depp?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did Mr. White provide the documentation Is that was then submitted to Samantha Spector as counsel for Ms. Heard?

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LAURA WASSER: I believe it came from Mr. White's office. Also probably of note is the fact that Mr. Depp changed business management shortly before or during the course of the case. So it is possible that some of the documents came from predecessor business manager.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to show you what has been marked as Wasser Deposition Exhibit Number 10, and I'm not going to ask you any specific questions so I don't need you to have to review it in detail unless you'd like to. You're certainly welcome to spend as much time as you'd like on it. But I'm just going to go down to the end of it, and I'm going to ask if this is the memorandum that you referred to that was finalized on August 16, 2016.

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LAURA WASSER: Since the parties' signatures appear at the bottom as well as Ms. Spector's and mine, I believe that this is the deal point memorandum to which I was referring.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Is there any reason to believe that it is not the final deal point memorandum?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Wasser, I'm going to ask you to take a look at what has been marked as Wasser Deposition exhibit Number 11, and it's a series of documents, an FL-150, for example, and then -- that's page 4 of 4, and then it goes into the next part, 1 of 1. Try to page through it for you just so you can see generally.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this document?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Could you tell me what it is, please?

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LAURA WASSER: It looks to be one of the parties, I guess Mr. Depp's, what we call in California preliminary or perhaps final declaration disclosure, just financial disclosure forms.

249 7:00:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Wasser, I'm going to ask you if you can take a look at what has been marked as Wasser Exhibit Number 12. And it's a -- many pages. I think it's 50 total.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this document?

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252 7:01:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: And can you tell me what it is?

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LAURA WASSER: It's the parties' awarded judgment for dissolution of marriage.

254 7:01:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: Is there a specific amount that was paid to Amber Heard as part of this divorce settlement and judgment for --

255 7:01:30

MR. PRESIADO: Objection. document -- I'm sorry.

256 7:01:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: For her claims of domestic violence including any claims of assault, battery, intentional or negligent infliction of emotional distress, libel, slander, and/or defamation?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't believe that we segregated out what the total amount was being paid for.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you make any effort to seal, S-E-A-L, the records in this case? And I'm referring to the case in front of us, the marriage or partnership of Amber Laura Depp and John C. Depp I, filed in Superior Court of California out in Los Angeles.

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LAURA WASSER: When you say "sealed," do you mean by the Court, to ask the Court to seal the file?

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LAURA WASSER: I don't believe so.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Why not?

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LAURA WASSER: We don't do that.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: We would ask you to take a look at what O has been marked as Deposition Exhibit Number 13. And this is a subpoena of you for this deposition. Did you receive that? Do you want me to scroll through it?

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LAURA WASSER: No. I believe that we received it.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And you are testifying pursuant to this subpoena, correct?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to look at what has been marked as Deposition Exhibit Number 14. And this is for the corporate designee of Wasser, Cooperman & handles; do you see that --

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MS. BREDEHOFT: For today's deposition?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Is it your understanding that you're the corporate designee on behalf of Wasser, Cooperman & handles speaking today?

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THE COURT: Thank you. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, I think, given the hour, that will be all the testimony that you hear today, okay? So we'll go ahead and recess for the day. Make sure you don't do any outside research and don't talk to anybody, and we'll see you tomorrow, okay? Get some good rest, all right? Thank you.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury exited the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

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THE COURT: Okay. And tomorrow, then, we'll be starting with that other deposition, that's correct? And how long is that or approximately?

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MS. LECAROZ: About two and a half hours.

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THE COURT: That will take care of the morning, probably, for the most part, and then you have remote witnesses after that; is that correct?

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MS. LECAROZ: Yes, we do.

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THE COURT: Okay. So you're going to get me the contact information for those so we can get that taken care of. All right. Just remember we do -- plan accordingly because I do need to take a lunch between 1 :30 and 2:30 because there's a graduation I need to speak at, so we're going to take care of that, okay? Thank you. Have a good evening.

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MS. LECAROZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

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COURT BAILIFF: All rise.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the trial was recessed at 164:54 p.m to reconvene at 10:00 a.m, Thursday, April 28, 2022.)

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