Depp v. Heard Transcript William Gatlin
Depp v. Heard / Day 10 / April 27, 2022
6 pages · 5 witnesses · 2,874 lines
Day 10 examined the May 21, 2016 penthouse incident through LAPD and building-staff testimony that exposed investigative gaps, then shifted to deposition evidence on career damages, post-TRO conduct, and divorce proceedings.
Procedural Procedural
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THE COURT: All right. Thank you.

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THE COURT: Your next witness is by deposition also? I assume you need a few minutes to switch that out or are you ready to go?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Actually, I think we still have exhibits from the first one.

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MS. LECAROZ: I think that's right.

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THE COURT: Okay. Why don't we go ahead. It's early, but let's go ahead and take a morning recess for 15 minutes so we can take care of that, and we can get set up for the next deposition, okay?

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THE COURT: So don't talk to anybody, and don't do any outside research, all right?

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury exited the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

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THE COURT: All right. Which exhibits?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I think we're in agreement, Your Honor, just we have the redactions.

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THE COURT: Who's the next? Which deposition is next?

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury entered the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

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MS. LECAROZ: Officer William Gatlin, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: Officer Gatlin.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: We did redactions that we discussed.

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MS. LECAROZ: I haven't seen it yet.

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THE COURT: Why don't we take the 15 minutes. When I come back, we can figure it out.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I don't think we're in disagreement with anything else.

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THE COURT: How long is this deposition?

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MS. LECAROZ: I believe it's around , 19 35 minutes, You Honor.

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THE COURT: So we'll be able to start the next one right after that.

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THE COURT: Why don't you get the exhibits for the next one as well, and I'll come back at 11 :20 and we'll do both of them, okay?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

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MS. LECAROZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

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COURT BAILIFF: All rise.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Recess taken from 11:01 a.m. to 11:20 a.m.)

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COURT BAILIFF: All rise. Please be seated and come to order.

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THE COURT: All right. So on the next deposition, which evidence do we have?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: May we approach?

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THE COURT: Okay.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I think we are in agreement, Your Honor, but we need to move for the admission.

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THE COURT: Okay. Winch ones are they?

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MS. LECAROZ: Plaintiff's 200 and 201.

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THE COURT: Plaintiff's 200 and 201.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I think the defendant's ones are already in, if you want to use those. 727 and 728. It doesn't matter.

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THE COURT: Is it okay if I have Jamie come over there?

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THE COURT: Are we in agreement or not?

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MS. LECAROZ: I haven't confirmed they're the same.

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THE COURT: So Plaintiff's 200 is in evidence, and Plaintiff's 201 is in evidence.

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MS. LECAROZ: Yes. Thank you, Your Honor.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And then defendant's, we have a question with that.

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THE COURT: Okay.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: 1246 with redactions. We have the redactions there, up on the screen.

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THE COURT: Okay. So 1246, with redactions, so we need redactions. So that's in evidence, okay?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And then Defendant's 211593.

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THE COURT: 1593. Does that need redactions?

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THE COURT: All right. That's in evidence.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Defendant's 1594.

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THE COURT: 1594 in evidence, okay?

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THE COURT: All right. So that takes care of that deposition.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Who's the next deposition? That's okay. Romero.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Just a few that we have for the Court. This is from Mr. Depp. 195, both sides agree the whole thing can come in.

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THE COURT: Okay. Perfect. And that's Defendant's 195, Plaintiff's -- Defendant's 272 7 and Defendant's 19 5.

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THE COURT: Do you want to come a little closer for the court reporter, just so we can get it on the record.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Yes, of course.

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THE COURT: You're welcome, Judy.

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MS. VASQUEZ: We have 784 -- well, actually, I don't know which one this is. Oh, sorry. It's Depp 120.

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THE COURT: Okay. Plaintiff's 120.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Redacted.

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THE COURT: I should have a C in it.

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MS. VASQUEZ: 0004, maybe?

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THE COURT: 120 -- I have C. 4 and 5? There should be C. Yeah, . 4 and . 5?

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MS. VASQUEZ: Yeah.

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THE COURT: Okay. Got it. 'I 13

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MS. VASQUEZ: The next one is Plaintiff's 120, 0040.

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THE COURT: Yeah. That's 120B?

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MS. VASQUEZ: Correct.

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THE COURT: Okay.

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MS. VASQUEZ: And then Plaintiff's 804, redacted. First page is taken off.

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THE COURT: 04? 804, everything except 1 21 the first page, right?

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MS. VASQUEZ: And then signatures redacted.

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THE COURT: 804. Is it 804? Yes. The first page then the

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THE COURT: Signatures. I don't know why I don't have 8, but we'll figure it out.

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THE COURT: Next one? Is that it? .,8

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MS. VASQUEZ: That's it.

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THE COURT: All right. Thank you.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Romero, we have 666, which is already in.

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THE COURT: That's already in. So, we're good.

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MS. VASQUEZ: That should take us right until about 12 something, 12:30, maybe, 12:40.

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THE COURT: Those are two. What's going to happen after?

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MS. VASQUEZ: Then we have Carino and Wasser, which we need somebody to talk about. So, I don't know if you want to take an early lunch at that time.

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THE COURT: Is that what you would like to do take an early lunch?

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MS. VASQUEZ: I think so.

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THE COURT: Okay.

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MS. VASQUEZ: And then we'll be done for the rest of the day with exhibits.

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THE COURT: So after these two, you want to take an early lunch around 12:15 to 1:15?

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MS. VASQUEZ: Probably 12:30, 12:40.

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THE COURT: Want to take it all the way to 2 for the jury, so they can -- but I can come back a little earlier and work through exhibits.

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MS. VASQUEZ: We'll work that out.

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THE COURT: You work that out over lunch, and we'll have that set.

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MS. VASQUEZ: And then Carino, Wasser, Dougherty.

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THE COURT: Say that again.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Carino, Romero.

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THE COURT: Romero. A lot of Os.

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MS. VASQUEZ: And Dougherty.

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THE COURT: And that will take us through the day.

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MS. LECAROZ: Romero's going before lunch. Wasser will go up where she just said Romero.

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THE COURT: Wasser and then Dougherty, which may go to the end of the day, or maybe into tomorrow.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I thought it was Gatlin, Romero, Carino --

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MS. LECAROZ: That's what we just said. Carino, then Wasser, then Dougherty.

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THE COURT: I didn't hear Gatlin, though.

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MS. LECAROZ: Gatlin, next one.

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THE COURT: Tomorrow, I have to take lunch between I :30 and 2:20 tomorrow, so I don't know if you have remote witnesses or depositions.

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MS. VASQUEZ: We have a number of remote witnesses.

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THE COURT: So you can let them know lunch will be between 1 :30 and 2:30. But if I can figure out remote witnesses today, from you, so we can get those. Probably just do one Webex for the I 1 whole day, and then I'll let them in. I can just let them in through the -- 1

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MS. BREDEHOFT: For timing purposes, when do you think you're going to be done?

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MS. VASQUEZ: We'll know tomorrow.

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THE COURT: No tomorrow?

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MS. VASQUEZ: We'll know tomorrow.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm trying to figure out for next week.

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THE COURT: I know. I appreciate it.

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MS. VASQUEZ: We'll have some I indication. Tomorrow, after court, if we can meet with Your Honor for ten minutes to discuss timing.

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MR. CHEW: And rebuttal.

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MS. VASQUEZ: And rebuttal. And things like that.

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THE COURT: Well, you know your timing.

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MR. CHEW: Yeah. Yeah, we understand.

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THE COURT: You've got a --

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MS. VASQUEZ: And we're keeping track. Thank you.

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MR. CHEW: Thank you, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: Thank you.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

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THE COURT: All right. Are we ready for the jury, then?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes, Your Honor.

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MS. LECAROZ: Yes, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: All right. Thank you. Your next witness.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury entered the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

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MS. LECAROZ: Your Honor, we call Officer William Gatlin.

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THE COURT: Okay. Officer Gatlin. Can I you spell the last name for me and for the court I reporter.

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MS. LECAROZ: G-A-T-L-I-N.

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THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

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[SECTION HEADER]: EXAMINATION BY COUNSEL FOR THE DEFENDANT AND BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Name and business address for the record.

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OFFICER GATLIN: William Gatlin; business address, 251 E. 6th Street in Los Angeles, California 90014.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: How long have you been an officer with the LAPD?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Eight years.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And what is your rank?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Police Officer I.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, your partner, on May 21, 2016, was Officer Diener; is that correct?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: You were wearing your body cam --

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MS. BREDEHOFT: On May 21, 2016?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: When were you fast assigned a body cam?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Sometime in 2015, I think. You know, I don't remember.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Officer Gatlin, I'm going to show you what has been marked as Defendant's Exhibit Number 6. And I'm going to go ahead and go down to the second page, and this is the incident recall for the two -- for you and Officer Diener for May 21, 2016, in connection with the call at the Eastern Columbia Building, 849 S. Broadway.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, Officer Diener indicated that he believed that he was driving that night. IO Is that your recollection as well?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: When Officer Diener is driving, what does that mean you're doing?

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OFFICER GATLIN: That means I handle the computer.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Based on the incident recall, when did you arrive at the scene, you and Officer Diener?

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OFFICER GATLIN: We arrived at the scene, it looks like, at 22:24.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And that is 10:24?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Correct.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So when you arrived, do you recall whether there were any other police officers that I l were on the scene?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I do not believe there was.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall whether there was any press on the scene?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I do not believe there was.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall whether there was any type of public gathering involved?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: No. Was it relatively quiet?

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OFFICER GATLIN: From my recollection, yes.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you see very many people in the lobby when you came through?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Not that I remember.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then tell me what you recall of this incident, once you got there and you were shown to the elevator.

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OFFICER GATLIN: I remember we went up the elevator, exited the elevator, walked down the hallway until we found the unit number, knocked on the door, a male answered the door, and, at that point - I mean, at that point, I really didn't know whether this guy is potentially the suspect, if this is the guy involved in the altercation, or who this guy was. So we kind of talked to him for a second and he advised us that the police had already been there, he had a business card from them. And we told him that we still needed to step inside to check on the subject or potential victim, just to make sure she's okay, and that this was, indeed, is related to the previous incident and not a new incident where the suspect had potentially returned and caused- or there was another new issue at hand.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall that you already knew that this had -- this place had -- another officer had answered the call or other officers had answered the call before you got there?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Yes. I already knew there was a previous call there.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And how did you know that?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Just kind of keeping track. When you're on the computer, you kind of are able to keep track of the calls throughout the night and where they're at and what's going on.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And did you know that Officers Saenz and Hadden had been the ones who had answered the call earlier?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I believe so.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Did you speak with Officer Saenz or Officer Hadden before you went to the Eastern Columbia Building?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to take you down to, on the same exhibit, a page that's Bates-stamped LAPD 11. And I'm going to ask you -- this TOMSG data log.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this document?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I've never seen this before. I've never seen one of these documents before.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Do you have a recollection of receiving an administrative message at 22:22:30, which would be 10:22:30, saying "incident 4756 is the same incident as yours, IAI handled earlier. Doubt she called back. Probably just delayed response"?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I did not recall. I do not recall getting that message. Right below it, at 22:23:22, which is

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MS. BREDEHOFT: 10:23 and change, it shows that your unit responded with "rog," in other words, Roger, to that message.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Would that have been you who did that or would that have been Officer Diener?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Probably me.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And is that because you weren't driving and officer Diener was?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So does this refresh your recollection of what had been communicated to you and why you knew that someone had already answered this call earlier?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Are you familiar with the tenn "cycle of violence"?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Typically, do you make arrests on domestic abuse calls?

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OFFICER GATLIN: You know, sometimes we do, and sometimes the other party's no longer at scene and we would just take a report.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Are there times where they just refuse to cooperate and you just left?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Yeah, but-yeah. There are times like that.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: You were going to say but what?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I guess the totality of the circumstance based on - just because someone's uncooperative doesn't automatically mean that we'll just leave. You know, if we observe some kind of injury or if there's a third-party witness that's cooperative, you know, that could lean in, where even if the victim is uncooperative, that will still take some sort of action.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to turn to page 13 here. And this is the CAD summary report. What, if any, involvement did you have in this?

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OFFICER GATLIN: So, I would be the one that kind of closes out the incidents on the computer. So the writings over to the right of the screen would be how I would-what I would type into the computer to close out the call.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And so, you would have typed in "related to previous incident. Verbal argument . only. Checked residence"?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, who told you that it was a verbal argument only?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Based on the knowledge I had of the previous call, I'm able to see, potentially, how they closed out the call, and I could have seen it from there.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So you could have gotten this from AlA? ,15

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MS. BREDEHOFT: IAI, yeah. Their report, Officer Saenz and Officer Hadden, and then just repeated it here?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you have any recollection of anyone in the apartment, up in penthouse 3, saying that there had been a verbal argument only?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Not to my recollection.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, let me just jump back to the events of May 21 for a moment.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Were you aware that that was the apartment of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: When did you first become aware of that?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I don't remember. Are we talking months, days, hours?

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OFFICER GATLIN: It was a couple days.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you remember how you learned of it?

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OFFICER GATLIN: No, I don't.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you know who Johnny Depp was at that time?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And were you a fan of Johnny Depp's as of May 21, 2016?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I guess I liked a couple of his movies. I'm not, like, rushing out to go see them or anything, I don't know.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Are you a fan of Johnny Depp's today?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I can't remember the last movie I saw of his.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you know who Amber Heard was as of May 21, 2016?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I was aware that there was an actress by the name of Amber Heard, but I had not - was not totally familiar with her or any of her work.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: When you saw the name Amber Heard on the incident recalls, did it register with you that she was an actress?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you recognize Amber Heard when you came to the apartment on May 21, 2016?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: How close did you come to Amber Heard while you were in the apartment?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I'd have to say, probably, between 10 and 15 feet.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And what was the lighting like where Amber Heard was sitting?

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OFFICER GATLIN: It was pretty dim.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you ask to see Amber Heard's face in the light?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you ask Amber Heard whether she had any injuries?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you interview any of the persons present about what had taken place earlier that night?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Why not?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Because I was aware that there's a previous call regarding the incident and the male that answered the door kind of made it clear to us that this is still left over from that same incident and a new incident had not occurred. So I didn't feel the need to at that time.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you go through and search the entire apartment, including bedrooms, offices and other areas?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And why not?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Same as I explained earlier. And they were all adamant that her husband was no longer at scene.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you go into any of the other adjoining apartments?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: You asked where the husband was. Why I • did you ask where the husband was?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Because in the comments of the call, it stated the husband and wife were arguing.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And it was also a domestic ! 12 violence --

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OFFICER GATLIN: Yeah, domestic violence call. And it wouldn't be uncommon for, you know, the male to answer the door to tell us he's not the husband, and later it turns out that he is. So, you know, we kind of have to talk to the other party involved to make sure that that's not the male that's involved in the argument.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did any of the four people that were in the apartment identify Johnny Depp as that male?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Was there any effort, by any of the people in that apartment, to get you to press charges or investigate further?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Would you say the people were reluctant to even have you come into the apartment?

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OFFICER GATLIN: It felt that way.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And what happened -- what occurred that made you feel like that, to you, that they didn't want you in the apartment?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Just the way that the male was acting that answered the door. He kind of just said, oh, let me just go grab the business card from the previous call. And then, even so, when we had went inside, it didn't seem like anybody was particularly eager to talk to us.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to take a look at exhibit 1, Defendant's exhibit 1.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: This is the Daily Mail, Mail Online, July 3rd, 2020. And I'm going to go down to the 10th page.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, evidence did you observe when you went to the penthouse on May 21, 2016, that Amber Heard and her friends were attempting to concoct an abuse hoax to set up Johnny Depp to be accused of domestic violence?

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OFFICER GATLIN: None that I can recall.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, evidence did you see Amber and her friends spilling wine and roughing the place up?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And what, if any, evidence did you see that Amber and her friends were -- had concocted and gotten their story straight and were relaying them to you when you arrived?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did Amber or her friends, at any time, while you were at the apartment, on May 21, 2016, claim that Johnny Depp had committed domestic violence of Amber?

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OFFICER GATLIN: Not to me they didn't.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you see them do that to Officer Diener?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, efforts did Amber Heard make to come over and no show you any evidence of injuries?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And what, if any, effort did Amber Heard or her friends make to try to show you any type of property damage?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And what, if any, evidence do you have that Amber or her friends placed a second call to 911?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I don't have any evidence that it was one of her friends. I just know that there was a second call placed. Actually, if I can recall, I think it said that her friend was on the phone with her and heard her arguing with her husband.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Who said that?

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OFFICER GATLIN: I believe that's what the incident recall said.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you ever provide a sworn deposition saying that you saw no evidence of a crime at the penthouse, before today?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Are you aware of whether Officer Diener provided a sworn deposition saying he saw no evidence of a crime?

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OFFICER GATLIN: He has not.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, this call came in at 20:30, which is, approximately, 8:30, regular time, p.m., is right?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then, a little bit further down, just seven minutes later, comes a duplicate call that appears to have come from the New York Police Department?

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292 1:54:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: Roughly, seven minutes of each other, correct?

293 1:54:51
294 1:54:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you see that when you were looking back and trying to look at the history?

295 1:54:57

OFFICER GATLIN: I believe I saw all of this.

296 1:54:59

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you see, in any of the incident recalls or any of the documentation that you reviewed, that the officers, Officers Saenz and Hadden, reported to the scene, left the scene, closed out, and then another call was made to come to 849 S. Broadway?

297 1:55:19
298 1:55:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: What did you see?

299 1:55:22

OFFICER GATLIN: The second call created was the one that we had received.

300 1:55:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: And it says -- is this 22:09, which would be 10:09, right, roughly?

301 1:55:33
302 1:55:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: Says "teletype from NYPD ICAD. Female stated she was on the phone with her friend and she began screaming at her husband. Subject Amber Heard, Husband Johnny Heard, male, 53 years old, 5-11, NFD, NFL"

303 1:55:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

304 1:55:50
305 1:55:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: But that's New York Police Department, and back here, it says "New York Police Department," correct?

306 1:55:59

OFFICER GATLIN: Correct.

307 1:56:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. But, after you communicated down here, on the administrative text messages, and I'm now on LAPD 11, this is 22:22, you now know it's the same incident as yours and lAl handled earlier, doubt she called back, probably just delayed response, correct?

308 1:56:35

OFFICER GATLIN: Yeah. This is just a message from another unit, so, I mean, just because they're telling - they're basically just sending me a message that it's related. You know, it doesn't mean that it's exactly the same call.

309 1:56:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: By the time you showed up at the door of penthouse 3, at the Eastern Columbia Building, you already knew that Officer Saenz had handled this call and you were just double-checking to make sure that the perpetrator wasn't there and that everybody was okay, correct?

310 1:57:11

OFFICER GATLIN: I was aware that Officer Saenz had handled a call at that location earlier, but it doesn't mean that I have to - that I treat it as if it's handled already. We still have to get there and speak to them and make that PIANE determination that it's not a completely new incident.

311 1:57:30

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And you did that, right?

312 1:57:34
313 1:57:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: And you put in the system, for this call, 20:46 to 21:42, "Met with victim, checked location, verified husband left location, victim advised verbal dispute and refused to give any further information." Actually, that was Hadden and Saenz, right?

314 1:58:03

OFFICER GATLIN: That wasn't me. I didn't put that in.

315 1:58:06

MS. BREDEHOFT: Then what you put in -- that's why I couldn't find it. You put in for 3:17 -- and I'm sure you weren't there until 3:01, but we talked to Officer Diener about that. You put in "related to previous incident, verbal argument only, checked residence," correct?

316 1:58:22
317 1:58:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And your putting "verbal argument only" was based on what you had reviewed with Saenz and Hadden, correct?

318 1:58:32

OFFICER GATLIN: Yes. I'm going to show you what has been I

319 1:58:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: Is I marked as Defendant's exhibit Number 2, and it's a picture. It's a portion of a video clip from the ECB building. It has 5/21/2016 and the time is 22:28:14.

320 1:58:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize the person in this picture?

321 1:58:53
322 1:58:54

MS. BREDEHOFT: And who is in this picture?

323 1:58:56

OFFICER GATLIN: Officer Diener.

324 1:58:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to ask you to take a look at Defendant's Exhibit Number 3, and that's reflecting a video clip, again, and it's dated 5/21/2016 and says 22:28:15.

325 1:59:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize the person in this?

326 1:59:14

OFFICER GATLIN: Yeah, that's me and Officer Diener.

327 1:59:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to show you, now, the video cam footage of that, the two, from yours and from Officer Diener. So, I'm going to go through and show those to you.

328 1:59:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: Whereupon, the following video was shown. POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Coffee pot. Burning up. We're en route to penthouse 3.

329 1:59:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: Be advised we're stepping out onto the penthouse floor.

330 2:00:17

MS. BREDEHOFT: (Indiscernible).

331 2:00:37
332 2:00:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Officers. How are you doing?

333 2:01:17

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: All right. O Did you guys have somebody come out here earlier?

334 2:01:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yes, we did.

335 2:01:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Oh, okay.

336 2:01:20

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I can't remember their name offhand, but I've got their card inside.

337 2:01:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Saenz, maybe. Yeah, we got another call. I don't know if it's the same call from earlier or if somebody called again.

338 2:01:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Probably.

339 2:01:29

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 2: We just need j to check.

340 2:01:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: Do any you guys know someone in New York or something?

341 2:01:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah. She probably called twice.

342 2:01:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: Okay.

343 2:01:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.

344 2:01:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Let me just talk to your wife to make sure --

345 2:01:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Oh, it's not my wife. Different conversation.

346 2:01:44

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: (indiscernible e due to cross talking). Well, whoever it is, can they just step out. We have to check on them and make sure they're okay, you know what I mean?

347 2:01:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I'll go get the business card from the cop, she --

348 2:01:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: Yeah, just because we got another call, and we came again, we just want to make sure.

349 2:01:56

UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Hang on a second. Back up, please. Back up. I just-- We'll make sure everybody in here is all right.

350 2:01:59

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Apparently (indiscernible) called the cops.

351 2:02:02

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: No shit.

352 2:02:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.

353 2:02:09

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: I don't know if she called twice or whoever called, but we just got another notification. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Must have been a mistake. POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: We'll just come in, make sure everything's okay. Anybody else in here? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: The other officers came by and checked, and the other apartment as well. It must have been, like, a double call. POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Okay. Who's Amber? You? Okay. And Johnny? UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: He is definitely not here.

354 2:02:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: He's not here? Okay. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: He left, probably, like, two hours ago.

355 2:02:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: oh, Okay. All right. Cool. Everything's all good, then? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah, we're good.

356 2:02:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: All right. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Thank , you.

357 2:02:53

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: If you guys need anything else, just call us back.

358

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Thank you, very much.

359

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Have a good night.

360 2:03:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: So this one is Defendant's Exhibit Number 4.

361 2:03:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Coffee pot. Burning up. We're en route to penthouse 3.

362

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following video was shown.)

363

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

364 2:03:43

MS. BREDEHOFT: Before we go further I need to show you what we have you're watching video that says 22:28:15.

365 2:03:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize the person in this?

366 2:03:53

OFFICER GATLIN: Yeah, that's me and Officer Diener.

367 2:03:56

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to show you, now, the video cam footage of that, the two, from yours and from Officer Diener, so I'm going to go through and show those to you.

368 2:04:08
369 2:04:08

MS. BREDEHOFT: So this one is Defendant's exhibit Number 4.

370

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following video was shown.)

371 2:04:25

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Coffee pot. Burning up. We're en route to penthouse 3.

372 2:04:43

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 2: 547 we out onto the penthouse floor. I think Saenz (indiscernible).

373

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

374 2:05:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: Before we go further, can you tell whether this one is your video cam footage or Officer Diener's?

375 2:05:07

OFFICER GATLIN: This appears to be Officer Diener's.

376 2:05:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: So that's you over here (indicating)?

377 2:05:12
378 2:05:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you tell whether it's you or Officer Diener that's saying "Officer Saenz"?

379 2:05:19

OFFICER GATLIN: I cannot tell.

380 2:05:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. How did you know that it was Officer Saenz who had been there?

381 2:05:25

OFFICER GATLIN: Because I was aware when she had responded to the call there, and I knew she was working that unit.

382

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following video was shown.)

383 2:05:34

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: ... same call from earlier or if somebody called again.

384 2:05:40

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Probably. I to check. POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 2: We just need POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: Do any you guys know someone in New York or something?

385 2:05:42

UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah. She probably called twice.

386

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Okay.

387

UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.

388

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Let me just talk to your wife to make sure --

389

UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Oh, it's not my wife. Different conversation.

390 2:05:52

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: (indiscernible due to cross talking). Well, whoever it is, can they just step out. We have to check on them and make sure they're okay, you know what I mean?

391 2:05:56

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I'll go get I 1 s the business card from the cop, she --

392 2:05:59

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Yeah, just because we got another call, and we came again, we just want to make sure.

393 2:06:02

UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Hang on a second. Back up, please. Back up.

394 2:06:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, would you say -- and this is -- I'll represent this is Josh Drew, and he's already provided testimony.

395 2:06:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: Would you say that Josh Drew was discouraging you from even coming into the s apartment or seeing Amber Heard?

396 2:06:17
397 2:06:23

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: I don't know if she called twice or whoever called, but we just got another notification.

398

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Must have been a mistake.

399

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: We'll just come in, make sure everything's okay. Anybody else in here?

400

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following video was shown.)

401 2:06:40

OFFICER GATLIN: The other officers came by and checked, and the other apartment as well. It must have been, like, a double call.

402 2:06:40

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: Okay. Who's Amber? You? Okay. And Johnny?

403 2:06:41

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: He is definitely not here.

404 2:06:41

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: He's not here? Okay.

405 2:06:41

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: He left, probably, like, two hours ago.

406 2:06:41

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: oh, Okay. All right. Cool. Everything's all good, then?

407 2:06:42

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah, we're good POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: All right.

408 2:06:42

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Thank you.

409 2:06:42

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: If you guys need anything else, just call us back.

410 2:06:42

OFFICER GATLIN: Thank you very much.

411 2:06:42

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Have a good night.

412

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

413 2:06:43

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Officer Gatlin, can you tell which one of these people is doing the talking, of these three girls -- women?

414 2:06:54

OFFICER GATLIN: I can't tell for certain, but it appears, to me, it's the girl in the middle, the one that's leaning forward with the white shirt.

415 2:07:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know which one of these is Amber Heard?

416 2:07:08

OFFICER GATLIN: From this view, I can't tell.

417 2:07:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Do you know what color hair the person that's the most forward, that's in the middle, has?

418 2:07:19

OFFICER GATLIN: I can't tell from this.

419 2:07:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Can you tell what color hair the woman furthest right is, that's in front?

420 2:07:28

OFFICER GATLIN: I can't tell. It looks like her head is in a shadow.

421 2:07:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Can you tell what color hair the person that's middle, but in the back?

422 2:07:38

OFFICER GATLIN: No. Same. Everything looks like they're - the tops of their heads are in shadows.

423 2:07:43

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And you believe that the one to the left is Amber Heard?

424 2:07:50

OFFICER GATLIN: No. I believe that that's the one that's doing most of the talking.

425

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following video was shown.)

426 2:07:56

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: The other officers came by and checked, and the other apartment as well. It must have been, like, a IO double call.

427 2:08:01

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Okay. Who's Amber? You? Okay. And Johnny?

428 2:08:04

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: He's --

429

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

430 2:08:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you see anybody acknowledge that they've identified themselves as Amber?

431 2:08:12

OFFICER GATLIN: Looks like it was the girl sitting furthest away from me -- or furthest away from the camera.

432 2:08:17

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And how would you describe the lighting in there?

433 2:08:22

OFFICER GATLIN: Pretty dim and dark.

434 2:08:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: You said, earlier, you thought you were ten to 15 feet away. How much would you estimate, now that you're looking at this on body cam, how far away are you from the three women?

435 2:08:33

OFFICER GATLIN: I would still say it's in that range.

436 2:08:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you get a clear look at any of these three women?

437 2:08:42

OFFICER GATLIN: I can't remember.9

438 2:08:43

MS. BREDEHOFT: And did you ask to have any of them come out into the lighting so that you could take a better look at them to see if, potentially, they might have injuries?

439 2:08:53
440 2:08:54

MS. BREDEHOFT: What perception did you have about the level of cooperation of these four individuals about your answering this call?

441 2:09:05

OFFICER GATLIN: Pretty low level of cooperation.

442 2:09:07
443 2:09:08

MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, can we bring up Exhibit Number 5.

444 2:09:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: It's the other video. I just want to go through both of them because there's a little different angle between the two.

445

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following video was shown.)

446 2:09:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Coffee pot. Burning up. We're en route to penthouse 3.

447 2:10:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: Be advised we're stepping out onto the penthouse floor.

448 2:10:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: (Indiscernible).

449 2:10:53

MS. BREDEHOFT: Hello. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Officers. How are you doing?

450 2:11:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: All right. Did you guys have somebody come out here earlier?

451 2:11:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yes, we did.

452 2:11:20

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Oh, okay.

453 2:11:20

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I can't remember their name offhand, but I've got their card inside.

454 2:11:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Saenz, maybe Yeah, we got another call. I don't know if it's the same call from earlier or if somebody called again. UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Probably. POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 2: We just need to check.

455 2:11:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Do any you guys know someone in New York or something?

456 2:11:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah. She probably called twice.

457 2:11:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Okay.

458 2:11:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.

459 2:11:38

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Let me just talk to your wife to make sure --

460 2:11:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Oh, it's not my wife. Different conversation.

461 2:11:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: (indiscernible e due to cross talking). Well, whoever it is, can they just step out. We have to check on them and make sure they're okay, you know what I mean?

462 2:11:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I'll go get the business card from the cop, she --

463 2:11:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Yeah, just because we got another call, and we came again, we just want to make sure.

464 2:11:57

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Hang on a second. Back up, please. Back up. POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1 : Can we just -- yeah, we'll just come in and just check. We'll make sure everybody in here is all right.

465 2:12:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Apparently (indiscernible) called the cops.

466 2:12:09

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: No shit.

467 2:12:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah. POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: I don't know if she called twice or whoever called, but we just got another notification.

468 2:12:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Must have been a mistake.

469 2:12:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: We'll just come in, make sure everything's okay. Anybody else in here?

470 2:12:33

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: The other officers came by and checked, and the other apartment as well. It must have been, like, a double call.

471

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Okay. Who's Amber? You? Okay. And Johnny?

472 2:12:39

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: He is definitely not here. here? Okay.

473 2:12:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: He's not here. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: He left, probably, like, two hours ago. POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Oh, Okay. All right. Cool. Everything's all good, then? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah, we're good. POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: All right.

474 2:12:52

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Thank you.

475

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: If you guys need anything else, just call us back.

476 2:13:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Thank you very much. i POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Have a good night.

477 2:13:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, showing you Defendant's Exhibit Number 5. Let me stop you for a minute. Does this appear to be the video cam from your video cam?

478 2:13:47
479

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following video was shown.)

480 2:14:01

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: Coffee pot. Burning up. We're en route to penthouse 3.

481 2:14:14

OFFICER GATLIN: Be advised we're stepping out onto the penthouse floor.

482 2:14:27

OFFICER GATLIN: (Indiscernible).

483 2:14:41
484 2:14:54

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Officers. How are you doing?

485 2:15:08

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: All right. Did you guys have somebody come out here earlier?

486 2:15:09

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yes, we did.

487 2:15:10

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Oh, okay.

488 2:15:10

OFFICER GATLIN: I can't remember their name offhand, but I've got their card inside.

489 2:15:12

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: Saenz, maybe. Yeah, we got another call. I don't know if it's the same call from earlier or if somebody called again.

490 2:15:15

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Probably.

491 2:15:18

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 2: We just need to check. O POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Do any you guys know someone in New York or something?

492 2:15:23

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah. She probably called twice.

493 2:15:24

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Okay.

494 2:15:25

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.

495 2:15:26

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Let me just talk to your wife to make sure --

496 2:15:30

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Oh, it's not my wife. Different conversation.

497 2:15:34

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: (indiscernible due to cross talking). Well, whoever it is, can they just step out. We have to check on them and make sure they're okay, you know what I mean?

498 2:15:36

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I'll go get the business card from the cop, she --

499 2:15:40

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Yeah,just because we got another call, and we came again, we just want to make sure.

500 2:15:44

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Hang on a second. Back up, please. Back up.

501 2:15:49

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Can we just -- yeah, we'll just come in and just check. We'll make sure everybody in here is all right.

502 2:15:53

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Apparently 113 (indiscernible) called the cops.

503 2:15:58

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: No shit.

504 2:16:03

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Yeah.

505 2:16:07

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: I don't know if she called twice or whoever called, but we just got another notification.

506 2:16:12

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Must have been a mistake.

507 2:16:16

OFFICER GATLIN: We'll just come in, make sure everything's okay. Anybody else in here?

508 2:16:21

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: The other officers came by and checked, and the other apartment as well. It must have been, like, a double call.

509

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Okay. Who's Amber? You? Okay.

510

[Section Header]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

511 2:16:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: So I'm just stopping here, again, on these three women. You had indicated before the woman that's leaning forward here, that she's in the middle; is that correct?

512 2:16:39

OFFICER GATLIN: It appears that way.

513 2:16:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: And you think she's the one who did most of the talking, correct?

514 2:16:44

OFFICER GATLIN: Yeah. Right now, she is the one talking.

515 2:16:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And you believe that Amber's the one in the back, behind her?

516 2:16:52
517 2:16:53

MS. BREDEHOFT: Are you able to see the right side of Amber's face?

518 2:16:58

OFFICER GATLIN: From this camera view, it looks like she's kind of facing straight towards me, so I would have been able to see the right side of her face from there.

519 2:17:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: Would you have been able to see it clearly?

520 2:17:14

OFFICER GATLIN: Due to the low lighting, probably not very clearly.

521 2:17:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

522

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following video was shown.)

523 2:17:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: And Johnny?

524 2:17:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: He is definitely not here.

525 2:17:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: He's not here? Okay.

526 2:17:26

MS. BREDEHOFT: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: He left, probably, like, two hours ago.

527 2:17:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: oh, Okay. All right. Cool.

528

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

529 2:17:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: While we're still there, can you tell how much hair Amber has covering the right side of her face, in these pictures?

530 2:17:40

OFFICER GATLIN: No. Looks like, from this camera view, most of the time, like, half of her head is blocked from the woman in front of her.

531 2:17:49

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you tell whether she's wearing any makeup?

532 2:17:55
533

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following video was shown.)

534 2:17:56

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: Everything's all good, then?

535 2:17:57

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Yeah, we're good.

536 2:17:59

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER I: All right.

537 2:18:00

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Thank you.

538 2:18:02

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: If you guys need anything else, just call us back.

539 2:18:03

OFFICER GATLIN: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Thank you very much.

540 2:18:05

OFFICER GATLIN: POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: Have a good

541

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

542 2:18:06

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall looking for any injuries on the faces of the three women?

543 2:18:15
544

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the following video was shown.)

545 2:18:24

POLICE OFFICER NUMBER 1: (Indiscernible.)

546 2:18:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, Officer Gatlin, do you recall seeing two dogs in the house?

547 2:18:38
548 2:18:38

MS. BREDEHOFT: They were running around pretty freely?

549 2:18:42
550 2:18:42

MS. BREDEHOFT: And when you say that, would you be able to, sitting here today, say that the person in these three photos, Defendant's 7, 8, and 9, is the same person sitting on that sofa in the back? Are you able to draw that connection?

551 2:19:01

OFFICER GATLIN: No. I don't recall.

552 2:19:04

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you disagree with my description of what's in this picture?

553 2:19:08

OFFICER GATLIN: No. I'm stating that I didn't observe that when I was standing inside the apartment

554 2:19:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: Are you able to testify whether Amber Heard was the victim of domestic violence by Mr. Depp on May 21, 2016?

555 2:19:27

OFFICER GATLIN: Based on our investigation, it appeared ' . as if she was not.

556 2:19:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, your investigation of what?

557 2:19:36

OFFICER GATLIN: Based on her refusing to give any statement on what had occurred, and, at the time, we did not observe any visible or verifiable injuries to her.

558 2:20:02

MS. BREDEHOFT: Anything else?

559 2:20:03

OFFICER GATLIN: Not that I can recall.

560 2:20:06

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, did you interview any of three other individuals in the apartment?

561 2:20:12
562 2:20:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you ask any of the individuals to give you a statement about what transpired?

563 2:20:19

OFFICER GATLIN: I believe the female that was sitting in the middle of the three told us that everything was fine and that the other officers had already conducted an investigation on the incident prior to our arrival.

564 2:20:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you ask that individual to give you a statement?

565 2:20:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: Outside of that, no. Did you take that individual aside and try to interview her without the others present?

566 2:20:49
567 2:20:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: Why not?

568 2:20:53

OFFICER GATLIN: As I just stated, everybody there had told us that the officers who had responded a couple hours before us had conducted the investigation and this is -- our call is still stemming from that incident and there's been -- there had been no change in the circumstance since then.

569 2:21:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know whether Officer Saenz and Officer Hadden took any of the individuals aside and interviewed them?

570 2:21:22
571 2:21:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you, at any point, ask Amber Heard to come forward and examine her in the light to see if she had any injuries?

572 2:21:32
573 2:21:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you take a flashlight, just to see if she had any visible injuries to her face or her body?

574 2:21:41
575 2:21:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you ask Amber Heard if she had any injuries?

576 2:21:44
577 2:21:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm asking whether you're in a position, as a police officer, to testify, under oath, that Johnny Depp did not commit any abuse of Amber Heard on May 21, 2016?

578 2:22:00

OFFICER GATLIN: I don't believe I'm in the position to testify whether he did or did not because I was not there when the incident potentially occurred.

579 2:22:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And you didn't conduct your own independent investigation, correct?

580 2:22:18

OFFICER GATLIN: Outside of the female telling us that everything was fine and the male answered the door and told us that the other officers had already come and talked to everybody, and she told us they checked the - both the - two apartments, so I felt, at that time, it was sufficient. As I stated, there was no change in the circumstance from the previous call, so we did not go further into the investigation.

581 2:22:46

MS. BREDEHOFT: And that's the extent of your investigation, correct?

582 2:22:50

OFFICER GATLIN: Correct.

583 2:22:50

MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you do that, that night, on May 21, 2016? Did you do anything, other than what we ! 12 have looked at on the video camera, in connection with investigating whether Johnny Depp committed domestic violence of Amber Heard on May 21, 2016?

584 2:23:09
585 2:23:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know whether Johnny Depp committed domestic violence of Amber Heard on May 21, 2016?

586 2:23:25