Depp v. Heard Trial Day
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Day 10 · Christian Carino & Others

Judge Penney Azcarate · Depp v. Heard · 11 proceedings · 2,874 utterances

Day 10 of 27
Appearing:

Day 10 examined the May 21, 2016 penthouse incident through LAPD and building-staff testimony that exposed investigative gaps, then shifted to deposition evidence on career damages, post-TRO conduct, and divorce proceedings.

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Full day summary

Day 10 centered almost entirely on the May 21, 2016 Eastern Columbia Building incident: two LAPD officers — Tyler Hadden and William Gatlin — each confirmed they observed no visible injuries on Heard, while Bredehoft used policy exhibits and protocol failures to challenge the weight of both conclusions. ECB front desk worker Alejandra Romero corroborated no observed injuries across multiple dates but conceded she could not detect makeup in video clips and acknowledged the photographed swelling was significant enough she likely would have noticed it. A pretrial sidebar shaped three upcoming deposition playbacks, admitting post-TRO reconciliation texts and a narrow ACLU pledge record while excluding op-ed drafting emails on hearsay grounds. Talent agent Christian Carino testified that Heard's accusations had the most dramatic impact on Depp's off-screen reputation and attributed the loss of Pirates of the Caribbean 6 to those allegations, though cross-examination revealed that attribution rested on industry inference and that Heard had never disclosed abuse to him as a mutual confidant. The day closed with divorce attorney Laura Wasser's deposition establishing California's community property framework, the no-notice May 27 TRO, and the preserved-but-unsearched status of ECB surveillance footage.

Tyler Hadden
“I don't know. That's a great question. I don't know why she was crying.”
Hadden acknowledges the reason for Heard's emotional state was never established during the call — a fundamental investigative gap that Bredehoft uses to argue the verbal-dispute classification was reached without adequate inquiry.
William Gatlin
“I don't believe I'm in the position to testify whether he did or did not because I was not there when the incident potentially occurred.”
The second LAPD responder explicitly limits the evidentiary weight of the entire LAPD response, conceding that officers' observations cannot confirm or deny whether domestic violence occurred on May 21, 2016.
Alejandra Romero
“According to the pictures I've been seeing right now, that you're showing me, it was pretty swollen. I probably would remember that.”
After being shown injury photographs, Romero concedes the swelling was significant enough she likely would have noticed it — implicitly undermining her own prior witness statement that she observed no injuries on Heard.
Christian Carino
“My opinion is that Amber's accusations would have had the most dramatic impact on his off-screen reputation. I'm not talking about any one specific accusation.”
Carino's most direct attribution of reputational harm to Heard's allegations — the central statement supporting Depp's damages theory for the day, though cross-examination immediately limited its inferential basis.
Christian Carino
“She promised me and told me to relay to him that she would never accuse him of violating the restraining order as a result of agreeing to meet her.”
Documents Heard's role in arranging and framing the post-TRO San Francisco reconciliation meeting, portraying her as the driving force behind contact with Depp while the restraining order she obtained was still in effect.
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Tyler Hadden — Direct/Cross/Redirect

Probationary LAPD officer Tyler Hadden's complete testimony on the May 21, 2016 penthouse call — direct, cross, and redirect.

Direct
Tyler Hadden Elaine Bredehoft
334 utt.

Probationary LAPD Officer Tyler Hadden testified about his response to the May 21, 2016 domestic violence call at the Eastern Columbia Building. He and training officer Melissa Saenz arrived at 8:57 p.m. and closed the call at 9:22 p.m., logging it as a verbal dispute. Hadden stated he was never close enough to examine Heard's face, saw no visible injuries, and observed no property damage. No report was filed; a business card was issued instead.

Cross
Tyler Hadden Benjamin Chew
86 utt.

Benjamin Chew cross-examines LAPD Officer Hadden to establish that he wore corrective contacts and had an adequate view of Heard's face at approximately ten feet on two separate occasions. Hadden confirms he observed no injuries, swelling, bruising, or marks—only redness consistent with crying. His protective sweep of the penthouse revealed no broken glass, spilled wine, or property damage. Chew also draws out that the man who led officers through the unit, later identified as Josh Drew, was uncooperative and refused to identify Depp.

Redirect
Tyler Hadden Elaine Bredehoft
116 utt.

Bredehoft uses three LAPD exhibits to show Hadden and Saenz failed domestic violence investigation protocols on May 21, 2016. Hadden concedes he never interviewed the woman embracing Heard on the couch, never asked why Heard was crying, and took no photographs or supplemental report. He did not consider whether facial redness might indicate injury. The call was classified as a verbal dispute based on limited information from one male witness.

+1 procedural segment

William Gatlin — Direct

Direct examination of LAPD Officer Gatlin, second responder to the May 21, 2016 penthouse call, on his observations and documentation of the incident.

Direct
William Gatlin Elaine Bredehoft
450 utt.

LAPD Officer William Gatlin, second responder to the May 21, 2016 penthouse call, testified about his brief visit to penthouse 3 with partner Officer Diener. He confirmed observing Heard at 10–15 feet in dim lighting without examining her for injuries, and acknowledged his "verbal argument only" CAD log entry was taken from the prior officers' report, not his own assessment. Body cam footage from Defendant's Exhibits 2–5 was played showing the apartment encounter. Gatlin saw no evidence of hoax staging but conceded he could not testify whether Depp committed domestic violence that night.

+1 procedural segment

Alejandra Romero — Direct/Cross/Redirect

ECB front desk worker Romero testifies on Heard's appearance around March 25 and May 24, 2016; complete direct, cross, and redirect on this page.

Direct
Alejandra Romero Elaine Bredehoft
198 utt.

Alejandra Romero, Eastern Columbia Building front desk worker for 13 years, testifies about interactions with Depp and Heard in 2015–2016. She was not present on the Saturday of the May 21 incident and learned of it Monday; elevator footage showed Depp visibly agitated. Her witness statement noted no injuries on Heard on May 25, but Bredehoft systematically establishes she was not examining Heard's face. Shown photos of Heard's swelling, Romero concedes she probably would have noticed such injuries.

Cross
Alejandra Romero Hector Presiado
47 utt.

Hector Presiado cross-examines Alejandra Romero via deposition playback, systematically confirming she saw no injuries on Heard. Romero affirms no bruising, marks, or swelling when Heard visited the front desk on March 25, and again during a penthouse walkthrough with Heard and Pennington later that day. She confirms lighting was good and proximity close. On May 24, 2016, she again recalls no visible injuries on Heard's face.

Redirect
Alejandra Romero Elaine Bredehoft
49 utt.

Bredehoft uses Romero's July 2016 deposition to show she had no memory of seeing Heard on May 23rd or 24th, undermining the cross-examination video evidence from those dates. She then methodically establishes Romero could not identify any makeup Heard wore in the videos — concealer, foundation, powder, or blush — leaving open whether injuries were covered. Romero notes Heard "looked pretty pale" but could not assess makeup. She confirms Heard was always friendly toward her and affirms her redirect testimony was truthful.

Procedural

Pre-deposition sidebar with jury excused; Judge Azcarate ruled on exhibits for the Wasser, Carino, and Dougherty deposition playbacks.

colloquy
Procedural
328 utt.

During a sidebar before three deposition playbacks, Judge Azcarate resolved admissibility disputes across roughly a dozen exhibits. Heard-Carino text messages about post-TRO meetings (P-571) were admitted; later 2017–2018 texts were excluded as no longer relevant once the TRO had expired. For the Dougherty/ACLU deposition, the pledge form (P-23) and a narrow excerpt of donation records (P-24) were admitted; op-ed editing emails, the Washington Post pitch letter, and internal ACLU reaction emails were excluded on hearsay grounds.

Christian Carino — Direct/Cross

CAA talent agent Christian Carino testifies on Depp's career impact and Pirates 6, then faces cross on his dual loyalties and Heard's reconciliation texts.

Direct
Christian Carino Elaine Bredehoft
337 utt.

CAA talent agent Christian Carino, who began representing Depp in October 2016, testified about reputational and career impact. He maintained Depp's professional reputation as an actor remained unchanged but acknowledged Heard's accusations had the "most dramatic impact" on Depp's off-screen image. Carino attributed Depp's loss of Pirates 6 to Heard's allegations, citing conversations with Jerry Bruckheimer and CAA colleagues, though he conceded Bruckheimer never stated that reason explicitly.

Cross
Christian Carino Hector Presiado
384 utt.

Presiado cross-examined Carino, establishing his close dual friendship and confidant role with both parties throughout their relationship. Carino testified that Heard repeatedly sought reconciliation with Depp after filing for divorce, including arranging a secret San Francisco meeting while navigating TRO concerns. He opined Pirates 6 was lost due to Heard's abuse allegations, timed closely to her December 2018 op-ed. He stated he never witnessed abuse, never saw injuries, and was never told of abuse by either party.

+1 procedural segment

Laura Wasser — Direct

Depp's divorce attorney Laura Wasser testifies on California community property law, the May 27 ex parte DVTRO, and ECB building surveillance footage.

Direct
Laura Wasser Elaine Bredehoft
272 utt.

Heard's counsel Bredehoft examines Depp's divorce attorney Laura Wasser by deposition. Wasser explains that domestic violence allegations do not affect California community property division. She describes Heard obtaining a no-notice ex parte TRO at 8:30 a.m. on May 27, 2016. ECB building surveillance footage was subpoenaed during divorce proceedings; Wasser testifies the footage was never destroyed but has not been searched for. The August 2016 deal point memorandum is introduced; Wasser states the settlement amount was not allocated by claim type.

+1 procedural segment
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