Depp v. Heard Trial Day
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Day 9 · Shannon Curry & Others

Judge Penney Azcarate · Depp v. Heard · 10 proceedings · 2,825 utterances

Day 9 of 27
Appearing:

Day 9: island manager Tara Roberts corroborated a December 2015 Bahamas altercation, forensic psychologist Shannon Curry diagnosed Heard with BPD and found no PTSD, and LAPD Officer Saenz testified she observed no injuries on May 21, 2016.

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Full day summary

Day 9 presented three witnesses across ten proceedings. Tara Roberts, Depp's Bahamian island manager for fifteen years, described a December 2015 altercation in which Heard verbally berated Depp and physically grabbed him, with Roberts observing a mark across Depp's nose and no injuries on Heard; cross-examination established her $120,000 annual salary from Depp, her limited access to house interiors, and a 2013 incident in which Depp was found passed out on the beach with his children present. Dr. Shannon Curry, Depp's forensic psychologist, diagnosed Heard with borderline and histrionic personality disorders and found no PTSD — cross exposed an undisclosed pre-retention dinner at Depp's home and Curry's concession that the MMPI-2 showed a defensive rather than exaggerated profile, while redirect countered with Heard's 98th-percentile score on Hughes's own intentional-exaggeration scale. The day closed with LAPD Officer Melissa Saenz's deposition establishing that on May 21, 2016 she observed no injuries on Heard, filed no domestic violence report, and had not yet been issued a body-worn camera.

Shannon Curry
“The results of Ms. Heard's evaluation supported two diagnoses: Borderline personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder.”
The central opinion of Depp's forensic expert, delivered without qualification — the pivot point of the entire day.
Shannon Curry
“Ms. Heard did not have PTSD. And there were also pretty significant indications that she was grossly exaggerating symptoms of PTSD when asked about them.”
Directly refutes the psychological-harm component of Heard's abuse narrative, coupling a negative PTSD finding with an exaggeration finding.
Shannon Curry
“The MMPI-2 profile, it's specific to how she approached this test, and you're correct, for this test, it was a defensive profile, not an exaggerated profile.”
Curry's own concession on cross that the MMPI-2 showed minimization rather than exaggeration — the most significant impeachment of the day's expert testimony.
Tara Roberts
“Amber was telling him that he was a washed-up actor, he was going to die a fat, lonely old man.”
Eyewitness account of Heard's verbal attack on Depp during the December 2015 altercation, establishing the hostile dynamic Roberts personally witnessed.
Melissa Saenz
“I determined that she did not sustain any injuries.”
Officer Saenz's affirmative finding — not a failure to observe, but a professional conclusion — directly undermining Heard's account of visible injuries on May 21, 2016.
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Tara Roberts — Direct/Cross/Redirect

Tara Roberts — Depp's Bahamas island manager — gives direct, cross, and redirect testimony about a December 2015 altercation and Depp's 2014 detox stay.

Direct
Tara Roberts Stephanie Calnan
204 utt.

Tara Roberts, who has managed Depp's private Bahamian island for 15 years, testified chronologically about several visits. She described the August 2014 detox stay, observing no injuries on Heard. For a December 2015 visit, Roberts witnessed Heard block Depp's vehicle, then heard Heard call him a "washed-up actor" and heard Depp say "you hit me with a can." Roberts and staff member CJ intervened, physically separating them. Afterward, Roberts observed a mark across Depp's nose but no injuries on Heard the next morning, and found a can and scattered art supplies on the property.

Cross
Tara Roberts Elaine Bredehoft
281 utt.

Defense cross-examination opens by establishing Roberts earns $120,000 annually from Depp, laying a financial bias foundation. Bredehoft secures admissions that Roberts could not know what occurred inside the house when she was absent, including arguments or physical abuse. Roberts confirms Heard's family and friends canceled the December 2015 Christmas visit. Roberts also acknowledges that Depp was passed out face-first on the beach in summer 2013 with his children present, and that she arranged helicopter transport off the yacht for Amber, Lily-Rose, and a friend.

Redirect
Tara Roberts Stephanie Calnan
12 utt.

Calnan's redirect spans only two substantive questions. An opening question about how many times Roberts has seen Depp consume drugs was objected to as leading and sustained. Calnan then revisited the cross-examination's beach incident; Roberts explained that Depp had fallen from an overturned hammock, that she picked him up, and left him with Jack. Roberts was released subject to recall.

+1 procedural segment

Shannon Curry — Direct/Cross/Redirect

Shannon Curry's complete testimony arc: direct on BPD/HPD diagnoses of Heard, cross challenging Curry's independence, and Dennison's redirect.

Direct
Shannon Curry Wayne Dennison
303 utt.

Dr. Shannon Curry, forensic psychologist retained by Depp's team, established her credentials and methodology before presenting her core conclusions: Heard has borderline personality disorder and histrionic personality disorder, and does not have PTSD. Curry described administering the MMPI-2 and CAPS-5 and testified that Heard initially claimed 19 of 20 PTSD symptoms — atypical even for severe cases. She testified Heard's preexisting anxiety and depression predated the relationship with Depp.

Cross
Shannon Curry Elaine Bredehoft
756 utt.

Bredehoft attacks Curry's independence by establishing she dined with Depp and his counsel before retention and never disclosed the meeting. Using the February 2021 expert designation, she shows it attributed opinions to Curry before any evaluation occurred — including one Curry confirmed she never held. Bredehoft also impeaches Curry on her limited experience with IPV cases and walks through treating providers' accounts of abuse. Curry acknowledges the MMPI-2 showed no exaggeration or malingering, and confirms she formed no opinion on who abused whom.

Redirect
Shannon Curry Wayne Dennison
31 utt.

Dennison uses redirect to address two areas attacked on cross. First, he elicits that the CAPS-5 and Hughes's own objective trauma test placed Heard at the 98th percentile for intentional exaggeration, supplementing the clean MMPI-2. Second, Curry explains that Heard's treating providers — Cowan, Banks, and Anderson — were ethically bound to advocate for their client and had never interviewed Depp, making their accounts categorically different from a forensic evaluation. A leading objection on the final question was overruled.

+2 procedural segments

Procedural

Pre-deposition sidebar settling exhibit admissibility before Officer Saenz takes the stand; incident report admitted, injury photos excluded for lack of foundation.

colloquy
Procedural
124 utt.

The court held a sidebar before playing Officer Saenz's deposition to resolve exhibit disputes. LAPD procedural documents were excluded from evidence though referenced in testimony. Defendant's Exhibit 730, the incident report, was admitted without objection. Heard's team sought to introduce injury and property damage photos for credibility purposes, but the court sustained Depp's objection for lack of foundation, noting the photos could be admitted later through Amber Heard's testimony.

Melissa Saenz — Direct/Cross/Redirect

LAPD Officer Saenz testifies about the May 21, 2016 penthouse call — her observations, documentation gaps, and disputed time on scene.

Direct
Melissa Saenz Elaine Bredehoft
647 utt.

Heard's counsel Bredehoft examines LAPD Officer Melissa Saenz about her response to the May 21, 2016 domestic violence call at Depp's penthouse. Saenz confirms she had no body-worn camera that night — her first use was June 16, 2016 — took no notes, and perceived no injuries on Heard, attributing facial redness to crying. She left only a business card and filed no report, concluding the incident did not meet DV criteria. The visit lasted 15 minutes, not the 30–60 she initially estimated.

Cross
Melissa Saenz Hector Presiado
374 utt.

Depp's counsel Presiado systematically confirms Saenz's findings on May 21, 2016: no visible injuries on Heard, nothing unusual in hallways or penthouses, no probable cause for a DV charge. Heard refused to answer any questions throughout the visit. Presiado displays two photos of Heard with the same timestamp but different brightness; Saenz notes the brighter version exaggerates facial redness. A 2016 deposition refreshed Saenz's recollection of her specific questions to Heard.

Redirect
Melissa Saenz Elaine Bredehoft
30 utt.

Bredehoft walks Saenz through Exhibit 6 elevator timestamps — 21:04:43 and 21:19:49 — to reestablish the roughly 15-minute duration of the police visit. Saenz confirms she had not seen the May 21 photographs before cross-examination, and that no documentation beyond the CAD summary and incident recall was collected. The jury was then dismissed for the day.

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