Amber Heard — Direct/Cross/Redirect
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THE COURT: Allright. Ms. Heard, if you would come to the stand, please.
MS. HEARD: Can I get my water?
THE COURT: Yes, ma'am. Water. Thank you, ma'am. Just remind you, you're still under oath, okay?
MS. HEARD: Of course, Your Honor. Thank you.
THE COURT: Thank you. Allright. Your question.
[STAGE DIRECTION]: AMBER LAURA HEARD, having been previously sworn, was examined and testified as follows: 979
MR. ROTTENBORN: Amber, just to orient you and the jury, at this time, we're in rebuttal to your counterclaim against Mr. Depp, so I'm going to confine my questions to that, okay?
MS. HEARD: Allright.
MR. ROTTENBORN: How have you suffered publicly as a result of the Depp/Waldman statements?
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Speculation.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MS. HEARD: I am harassed, humiliated, threatened every single day. Even just walking into this courtroom, sitting here in front of the world, having the worst parts of my life, things I have lived through, used to humiliate me. People want to kill me, and they tell me so every day. People want to put my baby in the microwave, and they tell me that. Johnny threatened, promised, promised me if I ever left him, he'd make me think of him every single day that I lived.
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Nonresponsive.
THE COURT: Allright. I'll sustain the objection as to that. If you want to ask the question.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Amber, how did Mr. Depp's statements and threats to you, that you were discussing, how do those continue to manifest themselves today?
MS. HEARD: In the harassment, in the humiliation, the campaign against me that's echoed every single day on social media, and now in front of cameras, in this room. Every single day, I have to relive the trauma. My hands shake, I wake up screaming, I have to live with the trauma and the damage done to me. My friends have to live with a set of unspoken rules about how to not scare me -- —_
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Hearsay.
THE COURT: Yes, sir.
MS. HEARD: Unspoken rules —-
MR. ROTTENBORN: It's not hearsay.
THE COURT: Overruled.
THE COURT: Overruled. Go ahead.
MS. HEARD: —about how to not touch me, not to. surprise me. My intimate partners have rules about how they can deal with me, how they can touch me. I have rules for doctors and medical professionals I see, gynecologists I see. I live my life with these sets of rules that I have to follow, my friends have to follow, for me not to have a panic attack or a triggering event where I relive the trauma. Even if I'm training to do my movie, for instance, if I'm training for Aquaman, a combat scene, and a trigger happens, I have a meltdown and have to deal with that.
MS. HEARD: The crew I work with have to deal with that because of the damage I walk around with every single day from what I've lived through. From what I've survived. I'm not sitting in this courtroom snickering. I'm not sitting in this courtroom laughing, smiling, making snide jokes. I'm not. This is horrible. This is painful, and this is humiliating for me, as a human being, to go through. And perhaps it's easy to forget that, but I'm a human being. And even though Johnny promised that I deserved this and promised he'd do this, I don't deserve this. All I want, the statements, the attacks to me, the campaign, that Johnny has elicited million of people to do on his behalf -
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Lack of foundation. Speculation.
MS. HEARD: —to do what he wants.
THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection. Next question.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Amber, how have the Depp/Waldman statements impacted your ability to do charitable work?
MS. HEARD: You know, I would — the only reason that people like Dr. Curry can sit up here on the stand and say I'm high functioning, I do things, like have hobbies and have interests —
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Nonresponsive.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Your Honor, Mr. Depp gave long-winded responses yesterday.
THE COURT: Overruled.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MS. HEARD: Is because J found a solution to that pain. I wake up every morning with panic attacks and trauma until I realize I could do something with it. So to answer your question, Ben, it's I was able to turn the things that I've lived through, my pain, my life experiences into work, into action, into providing a voice for other people.
MS. HEARD: I'm not a saint, I'm not trying to- present myself as one, as you all know, but I have selfishly found relief in being able to use what I've lived through to advocate for others, to bring light to these issues, to give a voice to people who don't have the voice and the platform that I have. And while I would not wish this situation on my worst enemy, if it gives a voice to somebody that doesn't have it. But I now, as I stand here today, can't have a career. I can't even have people associate with me because of the threats and the attacks that they have to endure.
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Nonresponsive.
MS. HEARD: —and I can't even do charity work.
THE COURT: Sustain the objection.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Amber, other than the threats that you've described, what other threats have you endured since the Depp/Waldman statements were made?
MS. HEARD: I receive hundreds of death threats, regularly, if not daily, thousands since this trial has started. People mocking, mocking my testimony about being assaulted.
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Relevance. Nonresponsive.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MR. ROTTENBORN: You can continue. 13. A_ It's been agonizing. Agonizing, painful, and it's humiliating, everything I have had to go through. I hope no one has to go through something like this. I just want Johnny to leave me alone. I just want him to leave me alone. I've said that for years now, and I thought he would after 2000 —
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Nonresponsive. Nonresponsive.
THE COURT: Allright. I'll sustain the objection. Next question.
MR. ROTTENBORN: What do you hope to reclaim after this is over?
MS. HEARD: Protecting the secret that I did, for as long as I did, has taken enough of my voice. I mean, Johnny has taken enough of my voice. I have the right to tell my story. I have the right to say what happened to me. I have the right to my voice and my name. He took it long enough. I have a right, as an American, to talk about what happened to me, to own my story and my truth. I have that right. I hope to get my voice back. It's all I want. And I said that from day one.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Thank you, Amber. I don't have anything else.
THE COURT: All right. Cross-examination.
MS. VASQUEZ: So, Your Honor, may we approach very briefly?
THE COURT: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, my
THE COURT: It's to counterclaim.
MR. ROTTENBORN: J think
MR. ROTTENBORN: She's already had her opportunity to cross her on the counterclaim. The way the case is set up is they get to put on their way the case is set up is they get to put on their case-in-chief, we put on our defense to that and our case-in-chief on the counterclaim She's already had a chance to cross-examine her on that. This is. why it's rebuttal. She shouldn't have a chance to retread old ground that wasn't opened up on this examination, she's already had that
MS. VASQUEZ: I disagree, Your Honor, because my -- this is part of our defense to the counterclaims. So to that end, I believe that I should be entitled, in my --
THE COURT: I'm trying to remember your rebuttal yesterday of Mr. Depp.
MS. VASQUEZ: It-was not limited in scope.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Well, they opened the door. They questioned extensively -- no, they did: They want back through a lot, Australia. What Ms. Vasquez just said is this is our defense to the counterclaim. That was her cross, for two days. That was the defense to the counterclaim and their rebuttal. Now, this is -- Just like Your Honor said, in closings, you told me, at the pretrial conference, when you get up in your last closing, it better be really limited to that. Same thing. This has to be limited to my direct examination, Your Honor.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She had her chance in direct.
THE COURT: I understand. Your
THE COURT: You agree. This is about damages, how it's affected you.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Yeah.
THE COURT: It's all damages.
MS. VASQUEZ: Related to the counterclaims.
THE COURT: If there's a relation to the -- talking about we don't have those damages because, you can get into that.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She can't get into --
MS. VASQUEZ: Including abuse hoax.
MS. VASQUEZ: Including abuse hoax.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Can't get into evidence of whether this is a hoax or not. She had two days -- whatever, a day and a half of
MS. VASQUEZ: No.
THE COURT: Yes, let me understand.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She's had --
THE COURT: Yeah, I understand. I'm trying to figure out what the scope can be. She said these are all the damages I had. I think she's allowed to say, well, aren't your damages actually related to? She can point to that.
MS. VASQUEZ: Right.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Fair. But if she's going to say, here, let's play this recording of you two, let's talk about what happened on the island -- )
MS. VASQUEZ: This is about our rebuttal case. `Oo May 26, 2022
THE COURT: No. It's their rebuttal.
MR. ROTTENBORN: It's my rebuttal case.
MS. VASQUEZ: I'm just saying my
THE COURT: You have to tie the rebuttal into the damages. You're saying this is part of your damages, well, isn't it true about this?
MS. VASQUEZ: Right.
THE COURT: This is actually the reason there were damages. And might some of the other evidence that came in.
MS. VASQUEZ: Right.
MR. ROTTENBORN: What she wants to do, if she does, is to say you couldn't have suffered damages because she didn't commit a hoax. And if she's getting into the facts, that's not Oo CoN AO AWN appropriate.
MS. VASQUEZ: I disagree.
MR. ROTTENBORN: This is our rebuttal -- see, she's confirming that's what she wants to do. She's had her chance. I disagree.
THE COURT: We can't do back. The defense is right about that.
MS. VASQUEZ: How about my rebuttal case that came at -- may I, please, just briefly, Your Honor. So we put on a rebuttal case that included new testimony to rebut Ms. Heard's case-in-chief. J believe I can ask her if certain testimony and evidence that came in, in rebuttal, relates to her counterclaims, which include the words "abuse hoax," includes the words "fake sexual violence." This is her case. They're interrelated.
THE COURT: Now, we're just in rebuttal evidence.
MS. VASQUEZ: But it's related to the counterclaims, Your Honor. I believe ] can cross-examine her on the counterclaim statements.
THE COURT: I understand that. But this is based on rebuttal. It's only rebuttal to her defense and damages right now. That's all. They're rebutting -- in their case, they're rebutting your case as far as damages. It's hard. But it's their defense, so you put on evidence that she was damaged by whatever else issues.
MS. VASQUEZ: Right.
THE COURT: And other occurrences, so she can get into the other issues or other things that happened that affected her damages and not these statements.
MR. ROTTENBORN: They cannot?
THE COURT: They can't.
MR. ROTTENBORN: But what Camille is saying is she wants to get into things like the testimony from yesterday, Beverly Leonard or TMZ.
MS. VASQUEZ: Yes, because that relates to damages.
MR. ROTTENBORN: It doesn't.
MS. VASQUEZ: Yes, it does. There are stories out there --
MR. ROTTENBORN: Let you finish. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have addressed her. This is rebuttal. They finished their case yesterday. My view is, going into those things that they ended their case with that don't relate to the counterclaims, those just relate to smearing Ms. Heard, that's not appropriate for neither side, at this point. It's certainly not appropriate for her to go into. If they want to go into, you weren't damaged --
THE COURT: She did testify that these statements are the reason that she was damaged.
MS. VASQUEZ: Right.
MR. ROTTENBORN: The counterclaim statements.
THE COURT: The counterclaims statements. So if they want to say that these weren't true.
MS. VASQUEZ: Isn't it true that -- right. Or, isn't it true that what damaged you wasn't the counterclaim statements, it was Beverly Leonard's testimony, it was, you know, the other things that happened being publicized.
THE COURT: In the rebuttal, opening the damages, and she did testify that I just want Johnny to leave me alone. I mean, she did testify May 26, 2022 to more than just damages, which were objected to, I didn't stop it, but she did testify to more than that. She was saying that these statements --
MS. VASQUEZ: And she said her testimony in this trial, Your Honor, so she opened it up.
MR. ROTTENBORN: And so -- I'm glad we're up here because Ms. Vasquez is making clear she wants to go into her testimony throughout the whole trial. Ms. Heard testified on direct for a day and a half, I don't know, and Ms. Vasquez got to cross-examine her on all of that.
THE COURT: This is what we're going to 14. do, okay: You're going to limit it just to whatever evidence from your rebuttal case.
MS. VASQUEZ: Understood. That's the only thing I intend to.
THE COURT: We're not going to go back and rehash anything that we did back before.
MS. VASQUEZ: Correct. Just in the rebuttal case.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Even that, though, Your Honor, they rested, so they rested --
THE COURT: You put her on the stand.
MR. ROTTENBORN: I did, you're right. But I didn't ask her about Seattle. That's totally inappropriate for them to, based on my questioning, that Ms. Vasquez gets to go ask her about what Beverly Leonard testified to or what Morgan Tremaine, the TMZ guy testified to.
THE COURT: That affects her damages.
MR. ROTTENBORN: No, it doesn't.
MS. VASQUEZ: Yes, it does. There's stories out there. She just said --
MR. ROTTENBORN: Something that happened in 2009 is going to affect what happened in 2020? We've already been down this road. They've asked her those questions.
MS. VASQUEZ: Not since Ms. Leonard testified.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She wants to ask her about Seattle. You already -- you've already very, very carefully limited --
MS. VASQUEZ: I'm not going to talk about a police officer or arrest. I would never do that.
MR. ROTTENBORN: No. You prescribed the questions she could ask, and she answered them already.
THE COURT: Let's - that's fair enough. I think that's right about Seattle.
MS. VASQUEZ: Understood, Your Honor. I will take that out.
THE COURT: So what else do you have in your rebuttal case, TMZ, I assume?
MS. VASQUEZ: Yeah, TMZ, Hicksville.
THE COURT: That's fine. TMZ, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Hicksville.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Because of the one guy saying that he --
MS. VASQUEZ: But the damages in the trailer --
THE COURT: The damages in the trailer.
MS. VASQUEZ: Yes.
MR. ROTTENBORN: I mean, that's fine. But I still think it's inappropriate --
MS. VASQUEZ: Kate Moss. The stair story that has been publicized all over the world.
MR. ROTTENBORN: That's -- we finished that, Your Honor. She testified it was a rumor, Kate Moss got on the stand and said that he didn't push her down the stairs.
THE COURT: I'll allow that. Go ahead.
MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor. May 21, so the photographs that her expert today -- May 21, the photographs that were taken at the exact same time, at the exact same second.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She asked her --
MS. VASQUEZ: Hold on, please. Taken at the same exact same time, at the exact same second. She said that she only turned‘on the vanity light. I feel I'm entitled to ask her about that. This is exactly why the Internet, according to Mr. Depp, is questioning her testimony.
THE COURT: She did bring up the On AOR WN to May 26, 2022 Internet.
MS. VASQUEZ: She did.
MR. ROTTENBORN: No.
THE COURT: She did bring up the Internet. She talked about the testimony in this case. She talked about damages from being in this case.
MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, I think it's fair game.
MR. ROTTENBORN: So the question, May 21st, Your Honor, May 21st is so far attenuated from what my limited -- and she's had the chance to cross her. She put the two pictures in front of Ms. Heard already.
MS. VASQUEZ: Not with the metadata. And not after her expert testified that they were different pictures.
THE COURT: I'm not going to allow the pictures. J think you're right about that.
MR. ROTTENBORN: You're not going to?
THE COURT: I'm not going to allow the pictures.
MS. VASQUEZ: So no pictures that Mr. Neumeister --
THE COURT: No.
MS. VASQUEZ: There's a discrepancy, Your Honor, she testified the same photograph relates to two different incidents.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She did not.
MS. VASQUEZ: Yes, she did. There's a picture of a wine bottle inside one of the penthouses, actually -- she previously testified it.actually related to the May 21 incident. When she's on the stand, she tells Ms. Bredehoft, in redirect, that it's the same photo from a different incident.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She did not.
MS. VASQUEZ: Yes, she did, and I'll show it to Ms. Heard -- Your Honor.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She didn't.
MS. VASQUEZ: There are reasons that the Internet, if you want to call them sleuths, bots, I don't care what you call them, people on Internet and social media that she claims have damaged her career at the direction of Ms. Depp, there's a reason. It's because there's inconsistencies with her stories.
THE COURT: She did bring up the social
MR. ROTTENBORN: She what?
MS. VASQUEZ: She did bring up the social media.
MR. ROTTENBORN: What are the boundaries, though? Then Ms. Vasquez gets to show stuff that's all going to be hearsay? She didn't bring it up in hearsay. She just referenced the threats that she got. That's very different than Ms. Vasquez having these people who are paid --
MS. VASQUEZ: Harassment, threats, calling her a liar.
MR. ROTTENBORN: So what is Ms. Vasquez proposed to do, show her these Internet sleuths?
MS. VASQUEZ: No, of course not. Just the discrepancies in her stories, Your Honor, that I submit, Your Honor, that I submit is actually 22, what's caused the damage to her career. It's media. what's caused the damage to her career. It's not-- and her PTSD. It's not the Waldman statements.
THE COURT: She talked about PTSD also.
MS. VASQUEZ: Right. It's not the Waldman statements, it's her discrepancies in her stories that people are calling her out on.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She's trying to use this as an end run to get in what you've asked the jury not to check for the last six weeks, which I know, I'm sure --
THE COURT: She said it.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She said she got threats --
MS. VASQUEZ: She said a lot more than that. She said “my testimony in this case.”
MR. ROTTENBORN: It does not open the door to --
THE COURT: It opens quite a bit, Mr. Rottenborn.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Okay. But it doesn't open it to just an unfettered right to say all of these things that are out there that are just May 26, 2022 . false, by people who haven't heard any of the evidence in this case.
THE COURT: Then why did she bring up? She did. So anything that's tied to damages, we're not going to go back to 2009. Anything that's tied to damages.
MS. VASQUEZ: Right. I'm not going to talk about the --
THE COURT: I'm not going to allow her to do it.
MR. ROTTENBORN: I just think we have a disagreement on what's damages, because Ms. Vasquez appears to be wanting to question her about the whole case.
MS. VASQUEZ: No, I have a few topics that were only raised in our rebuttal case.
THE COURT: Just raised on the rebuttal.
MS. VASQUEZ: My entire examination is
THE COURT: We're not going to do the police officer.
MS. VASQUEZ: I'm not going to go to Beverly Leonard. Am] allowed to go into Kate Moss? I'm sorry, I lost track when I was -- and the reason, Your Honor, is because Mr. Depp testified yesterday that he told Ms. Heard about this incident.
THE COURT: I'll allow that. I think I already did allow that.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Thank you.
MS. VASQUEZ: TMZ.
THE COURT: TMZ, we're doing.
MS. VASQUEZ: I'm not going to do the Bryan Neumeister and the pictures. May 21, the fact and that -- and that ties into TMZ, that her publicist was there --
THE COURT: That's fine.
MS. VASQUEZ: At the courthouse. The wine picture, like I said, that notes that discrepancy.
THE COURT: All right.
MS. VASQUEZ: And just the people that testified in rebuttal, I have a brief line of questioning, ten questions, if that.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Do you want to. repeat who those are? Hicksville.
MS. VASQUEZ: I'm not going to talk about Ms. Leonard.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Hicksville, TMZ. No issues
THE COURT: Experts.
MS. VASQUEZ: I'm not talking about Bryan Neumeister, at your direction.
THE COURT: All right.
MS. VASQUEZ: Okay. I had one question, this went viral, Your Honor, Isaac Baruch, testifying and. crying and weeping about what Ms. Heard did to him and did to Mr: Depp. I think that's fair game.
MR. ROTTENBORN: That's five weeks ago.
THE COURT: I'll allow that. Damages issue. Okay. I don't know how much time you have left. Mr. Rottenborn. You had 23 when you came up left, Mr. Rottenborn. You had 23 when you came up here.
MS. VASQUEZ: We're splitting this time equally.
MR. ROTTENBORN: I will just say, for the record, I think they rested'their case. I think it's inappropriate to go beyond what this direct was, but maybe I'll have a couple minutes.
THE COURT: I'll find out, and Sammy will email you.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Okay.
MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you very much, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Heard, you just testified that this case has been very hard for you, so let's talk about that and why.
MS. HEARD: All right.
MS. VASQUEZ: Your lies have been exposed to the world multiple times, right?
MS. HEARD: I-didn't lie about anything I've been here to say.
MS. VASQUEZ: You sat here and told this jury that the events in Hicksville started. with Mr. Depp getting really upset about a woman leaning on you; is that-correct?
MS. HEARD: Yes, that's effectively what happened, yeah. ‘Q You testified that he actually grabbed that woman's wrist and twisted it, right? 12. A’ And told her that he could, effectively, break her wrist by saying he knew how many pounds of pressure -- or asking her how many pounds of pressure it took to break a human wrist.
MS. VASQUEZ: But your own witness, your former best friend, Rocky Pennington, she didn't corroborate that, did she?
MS. HEARD: I'm not sure what part of that night she saw. There were a lot of people there.
MS. VASQUEZ: She didn't testify that Mr. Depp grabbed anyone's wrist in Hicksville?
MS. HEARD: Again, I don't know what Rocky saw. There were a lot of people there that night.
MS. VASQUEZ: You testified that once you brought
MS. HEARD: That is correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: And the manager of the Hicksville trailer park was furious that Johnny had wrecked the whole thing. Do you remember that testimony? 11. A _ That's correct. 12. Q . Well, we heard from that manager of the © Hicksville trailer park, Morgan Night, on Monday, didn't we?
MS. HEARD: I'I'm not sure who that guy was or if he had any involvement in this. I know a lot of people have come out of the woodwork to be involved.
MS. VASQUEZ: So you're accusing Mr. Night of testifying and committing perjury?
MS. HEARD: J'minot accusing anyone. I just don' t recognize that man. T DEPOS coon NN th HR WN eS Oo
MS. VASQUEZ: You heard Mr. Night testify that it was actually you who was upset with Mr. Depp spending time away from him; isn't that correct?
MS. HEARD: How would he know? He wasn't there.
MS. VASQUEZ: You heard Mr. Night testify that it was actually you who was yelling at Mr. Depp?
MS. HEARD: Again, I've heard a lot of people say a lot of things to be involved in the Johnny Depp show, but he wasn't there. He doesn't know. And he certainly doesn't know what happened behind closed doors, like most people. Q. So you're calling Mr. Night a liar? A. I'm saying he wasn't there, and what he testified to doesn't match what I know happened. But I don't fault him. He wasn't there, so how would he know?
MS. VASQUEZ: He testified he was there, Ms. Heard. Did you hear that? That's his testimony, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: So you're calling him a liar? 21. A I'm just saying he wasn't there.
MS. VASQUEZ: You heard Mr. Night testify that the trailer wasn't trashed, and that's why you're calling him a liar?
MS. HEARD: He testified that a light fixture was broken, similar to ‘the way that Johnny's —
MS. VASQUEZ: Yes. Other than the light fixture, that was the only thing that was broken --
MS. HEARD: —employees testified to the closet being rearranged and things like that. Q_--right, Ms. Heard? Ms. Heard, the only thing that was broken in the trailer, according to Mr, Night, was a light fixture, yes or no? 13. A [realize that he summed it up by saying a light fixture was broken, just the way his security guard summed up him trashing my closet as —
MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, I'm going to move to strike everything after he summed it up, that it was a light fixture, as nonresponsive.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She answered the question.
THE COURT: Overruled. tO May 26, 2022
MS. VASQUEZ: And the security guard testimony, Your Honor?
THE COURT: I'll allow it. Go ahead.
MS. VASQUEZ: Mr. Night also testified that he charged Mr. Depp only $62 for the light fixture. You heard that, correct?
MS. HEARD: I did.
MS. VASQUEZ: In Hicksville, you were the only one that was jealous because Mr. Depp was spending time with other people; isn't that correct, Ms. Heard?
MS. HEARD: That isn't correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: In Hicksville, you were the one who was upset that Mr. Depp wasn't giving you enough attention?
MS. HEARD: Incorrect again.
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Heard, you told this jury that you had no idea the press was going to be at the courthouse when you got your TRO on May 27th, 2016. Do you remember that testimony? Do you remember that testimony?
MS. HEARD: I said I did not have anything to do " with it, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: No. My question, again, you told this jury that you had no idea that the press was going to be outside, after you got the ex parte TRO on May 27th, 2016. Do you remember that testimony?
MS. HEARD: Apologize; I must have misunderstood, Ms. Vasquez. I actually had no idea whether they were going to be there or not. When I walked into the courtroom that day, it was completely quiet, still, empty. Even though I had given Johnny's team notice that I was filing the TRO, we had —
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. This is nonresponsive.
MS. HEARD: No reason to believe that the press
MS. VASQUEZ: Move to strike. And, Your Honor, I would also ask that you instruct the witness to, please, stop talking once I lodge an objection.
MR. ROTTENBORN: She is just trying to answer the question as best she can, and Ms. Vasquez is misrepresenting to her what she testified to.
THE COURT: I'll instruct [sic] the last part as nonresponsive. If you could just answer the questions asked, okay, thank you, Ms. Heard.
MS. VASQUEZ: In fact, you testified that you were "shocked" when you saw press when you were leaving the courthouse, yes?
MS. HEARD: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: You weren't shocked at all, though, were you? 14. A Incorrect. It was — You knew the press would be at the courthouse, right, Ms. Heard?
MS. HEARD: No.
MS. VASQUEZ: Well, you did bring your publicist to the courthouse with you on May 27th, 2016, didn't you?
MS. HEARD: I sure did. I'm a public figure. I brought my publicist in case it blew up. In case.
MS. VASQUEZ: You actually had alerted TMZ that you would be filing a TRO against Mr. Depp» that very day, didn't you?
MS. HEARD: No, I did not.
MS. VASQUEZ: The one day you didn't bother to, wear makeup to cover up the mark on your face?
MS. HEARD: I did not call TMZ or any other news source or paparazzi source. No one. I never did that.
MS. VASQUEZ: We heard testimony from former TMZ employee Morgan Tremaine yesterday, correct?
MS. HEARD: Did I hear his testimony? Q. Yes. A. Yes, I was here.
MS. VASQUEZ: And you heard Mr. Tremaine's testimony that he knew to dispatch the paparazzi to the courthouse on May 27th, right?
MS. HEARD: I heard him say that he knew that, yes. QQ. And that he dispatched paparazzi to the courthouse to capture a picture of an alleged bruise on the right side of your face. Do you remember him saying that? May 26, 2022 I remember him saying that.
MS. VASQUEZ: That information must have come from your team, right, Ms. Heard?
MS. HEARD: Absolutely not. Why would I want that? What actual survivor of domestic violence wants that?
MS. VASQUEZ: Now, the video of Mr. Depp beating up some kitchen cabinets, you admit that you took that video, correct?
MS. HEARD: Yes, I did.
MS. VASQUEZ: And you acknowledge that the video was released online the day before you were deposed in connection with your divorce from Mr. Depp in August of 2016, right?
MS. HEARD: I believe it was, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: But you testified that you had absolutely nothing to do with the video's release, right?
MS. HEARD: Absolutely not. Q_. And you testified that you learned about it when you landed after flying into LA. Do you remember that testimony? ana mn BR WN Ne}
MS. HEARD: Upon touchdown is when I was alerted to the video's existence online.
MS. VASQUEZ: You heard Mr. Tremaine testify about this video, as well, yesterday, didn't you?
MS. HEARD: Yes, I did.
MS. VASQUEZ: And you heard Mr. Tremaine testify that TMZ received the cabinet video the same day you landed at LAX, yes?
MS. HEARD: I don't know if that —I.don't know if that's what his testimony was, I'm sorry.
MS. VASQUEZ: You heard Mr. Tremaine testify that the cabinet video was posted 15 minutes after TMZ received it, yes? 14. A _ That's what I heard him say. QQ. And that this could only have been possible if the video was received directly from the source, yes?
MS. HEARD: I heard him say that. I don't know if that's true or if that's possible. Because it didn't come from me. I was flying.
MS. VASQUEZ: You heard Mr. Tremaine testify --
MS. HEARD: I knew that was incorrect, is what I mean to say.
MS. VASQUEZ: Another liar on the stand?
MS. HEARD: I just know that that's incorrect.
MS. VASQUEZ: Right. And you heard Mr. Tremaine testify that TMZ owns the copyright to the cabinet video, right?
MS. HEARD: That's news to me.
MS. VASQUEZ: The cabinet video you filmed of your then husband, yes?
MS. HEARD: The copyright ownership of that is news to me. I learned that yesterday.
MS. VASQUEZ: It's the cabinet video that you captured of your then husband, yes?
MS. HEARD: That is correct. I did capture that video, and, yes, that was my husband.
MS. VASQUEZ: The cabinet video, the same cabinet video that was released the night before you were deposed in your divorce, yes?
MS. HEARD: That's correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: You must have also heard Mr. Tremaine testify that the version of the cabinet video that TMZ received was incomplete compared to the video the jury saw in this trial. Did you hear that?
MS. HEARD: The video that the — that you have seen is complete.
MS. VASQUEZ: Right. But the one TMZ got, the day before your deposition in the divorce, was incomplete?
MS. HEARD: I don't know. [haven't seen it.
MS. VASQUEZ: He testified that the beginning portion of the video, where you set up the camera, that wasn't included in the video TMZ received?
MS. HEARD: I don't know what video TMZ received. 13. Q I'm talking about Mr. Tremaine's testimony, Ms. Heard. Let's just focus on Mr. Tremaine. <A You're asking me to repeat his testimony?
MS. VASQUEZ: No, I'masking you if recall hearing him say those words to this jury, under oath? <A Yes, [heard his testimony. We all did.
MS. VASQUEZ: And he testified that the end on the to May 26, 2022 ; 7602 video, where you can be seen smirking -- I know you testified earlier that you haven't been smirking in this trial, but you sure were caught on camera smirking in that video --
MS. HEARD: I disagree with that.
MS. VASQUEZ: Was also not included in the TMZ video?
MS. HEARD: Everybody can watch that video and you can determine whether you think it's funny to me or not.
MS. VASQUEZ: That's because the video came from you, right, Ms. Heard?
MS. HEARD: It did not. It did not come to me — I mean come from me.
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Heard, you edited out the portions that made you look bad before sending it to TMZ.
MS. HEARD: You are very wrong about that. 17. Q_ So you didn't do that?
MS. HEARD: If I wanted to leak information, I could have done it in a more effective way, a lot sooner, and a lot more. I really did not leak this evidence. If I wanted to leak it, I could have done a lot more with it. have done a lot more with it.
MS. VASQUEZ: I thought you testified earlier in this trial that you didn't know how to leak things? 3. A I don't.
MS. VASQUEZ: Right. You edited that video before you gave it to TMZ so that only Mr. Depp would look bad, yes? -
MS. HEARD: That's absurd.
MS. VASQUEZ: Right in the middle of your divorce proceedings?
MS. HEARD: Again, you're very wrong.
MS. VASQUEZ: I would like to show you a picture that's already admitted into evidence.
MS. VASQUEZ: It's Defendant's Exhibit 799.
MS. VASQUEZ: This is you at the courthouse on May 27th, 2016, when you got your domestic violence restraining order against Mr. Depp, right?
MS. HEARD: It is.
MS. VASQUEZ: And next to you is a woman named Jody Gottlieb, right?
MS. HEARD: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Jody Gottlieb is your publicist?
MS. HEARD: And dear friend.
MS. VASQUEZ: Now, I would like to show you what's been marked as Plaintiff's Exhibit 1316. This is a picture of you and your friend Rocky Pennington, right?
MS. HEARD: That is correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, I would like to move to admit this photograph.
THE COURT: Any objection to 1316?
MR. ROTTENBORN: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. 1316 in evidence. You can publish to the jury.
MS. VASQUEZ: This is a picture of you on May 28th, 2016, right, Ms. Heard?
MS. HEARD: I don't remember when this was taken. 17. Q . This is the day after you obtained the domestic violence restraining order against Mr. Depp, right?
MS. HEARD: I have no idea when this image was taken. I did not take it. 392 OQ. There's no bruise on your face in this
MS. VASQUEZ: There's no bruise on your face in this picture, is there?
MS. HEARD: Again, I don't know when this was taken, and, also, I'm outside. I was obviously wearing makeup. I have no idea when this was taken, so I have no idea if I can —
MS. VASQUEZ: Let's refresh your recollection. Let's refresh your recollection about when this picture was taken.
MS. VASQUEZ: Can you please pull up Plaintiff's Exhibit 1315, just for the witness.
MS. VASQUEZ: This is an article dated May 30th, 2016, right, Ms. Heard?
MS. HEARD: That's what it says, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: And this article contains the same photograph of you and Ms. Pennington we were just looking at, yes? 17. A Yes, I see that.
MS. VASQUEZ: And the article's entitled "Amber Heard smiles as she puts arm around friend one day after getting restraining order against Johnny Depp." Is that what the title says?
MS. HEARD: I know that's what the title says, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, I'm going to move to admit and publish the article with everything but the headline and date and the photo redacted,
MR. ROTTENBORN: Objection, Your Honor. That's inconsistent from the way you've treated all of these.
THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection. Allright. Next question.
MS. VASQUEZ: Let's take a look at picture Plaintiff's Exhibit 1317,
MS. VASQUEZ: This is also a picture of you and Ms. Pennington on May 28th, 2016; isn't it? 14. A _ I don't know when this photo was taken, but it looks like the same outing as the picture prior.
MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, I'm going to move to admit and publish Plaintiff's Exhibit 1317.
THE COURT: Any objection?
MR. ROTTENBORN: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: 1317 in evidence. You can 1317 in evidence. You can publish. Q’ There's no bruise‘on your face in this picture either, right?
MS. HEARD: I disagree. And if it is taken when you represent it was taken, then, obviously, there's a bruise on my face. It's covered by makeup, as per usual.
MS. VASQUEZ: Let's zoom out of that picture for a moment, please. Thanks, Tom. That's Josh Drew in this picture,
MS. HEARD: Yes, that's correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: And Ms. Pennington --
MS. HEARD: That's correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: -- is in there too?
MS. HEARD: That's correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Pennington submitted a sworn statement on your behalf in support of your domestic violence restraining order, didn't she?
MS. HEARD: I believe she did, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Mr. Drew also submitted a statement in support of your domestic violence restraining order?
MS. HEARD: I believe they both did, yes, uh-huh.
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Heard, I would like to show you Defendant's Exhibit 512.
MS. VASQUEZ: Which is already in evidence,
MS. VASQUEZ: You've seen this photograph before, right?
MS. HEARD: I have.
MS. VASQUEZ: On the second day of your direct testimony, you testified that this was taken in the downstairs of the main apartment on December 15th, 2015. Do you recall that testimony?
MS. HEARD: Yes, I believe so.
MS. VASQUEZ: So it's your testimony that Defendant's Exhibit 512 reflects damage to penthouse 5 that occurred during the December 15th, 2015 incident, yes?
MS. HEARD: I'I'm not quite sure from what incident this is when I see this photo in a vacuum, without context.context.
MS. VASQUEZ: Let's give you that context.
MS. VASQUEZ: Can we, please -- if I could have day 16 trial testimony. Your Honor, may we approach?
THE COURT: Allright. Thank you.
MS. HEARD: Thank you.
MS. VASQUEZ: Could you, please, turn, first, to page 4585. Specifically, starting on line 16, where it says “Let's talk about December 15th, 2015."
MS. HEARD: You said 458 — oh, I'm on 4485. Sorry. You said 4585?
MS. HEARD: Pardon.
MS. VASQUEZ: Line 16. Line 16, where it says "Let's talk about December 15th, 2015." Do you see that?
MS. HEARD: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Okay. And then do you see that your testimony about December 15th, 2015, follows?
MS. HEARD: Let's see. It's just the first line or two. Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Okay. Now, I'd like you to turn to page 4603. Starting at line 12. 4603. Starting at line 12 and going on to page 4604, line 4.
MS. HEARD: Okay,
MS. VASQUEZ: And do you see that you testified that : Defendant's Exhibit 512, which is on the screen --
MS. HEARD: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Is a picture of the downstairs of the main apartment? <A_ That's correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: And the main apartment is penthouse 5, in the Eastern Columbia Building, right? 13. A No, the — well, depends on — the main apartment's penthouse 3, generally, when we say main apartment.
MS. VASQUEZ: Penthouse 5 was where you had your closet?
MS. HEARD: The downstairs is kind of — like had some of my painting studio set up and a reception area. Upstairs was the closet. Mezzanine and office was in between.
MS. VASQUEZ: So it's your testimony that Defendant's Exhibit 512 reflects damage to the penthouse, penthouse 5, that occurred during the December 15th, 2015 incident, right?
MS. HEARD: I'm just not sure from which incident this is a picture of, since I'm only looking at a partial floor.
MS. VASQUEZ: Even though your counsel was asking you questions about December 15, 2015, and then admitted this picture into evidence --
MS. HEARD: Again— QQ -- in relation to that incident?
MS. HEARD: Sorry, go ahead.
MS. VASQUEZ: In relation to that incident, on December 15, 2015. This exhibit, Defendant's Exhibit, you are the defendant, Number 512 was admitted into evidence in this court. You testified that this was a result of damage that occurred on December 15th, 2015, yes or no?
MS. HEARD: I just need to orient myself because 20.1'm just looking at a picture of a partial picture of a floor.
MS. VASQUEZ: No, Ms. Heard, you didn't just look at a picture. You looked at your testimony.
MS. HEARD: You pointed me toward the page and then asked me a question. I haven't actually reviewed it. I don't know if this was submitted in 5. relation to that incident.
MS. VASQUEZ: Let's pull up --
MS. VASQUEZ: Let's actually leave up Defendant's 512 and, please, pull up Defendant's Exhibit 725, which is already in evidence.
THE COURT: Thank you.
MS. VASQUEZ: In redacted form, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you. You can publish.
MS. VASQUEZ: Side by side.
MS. VASQUEZ: You've seen this photograph as well, right? <A I have.
MS. VASQUEZ: On the third day of your direct testimony, you testified that this photograph reflected spilled wine in penthouse 5 on May 21st, 2016, didn't you?
MS. HEARD: Again, I don't know because I'm looking at a partial picture of a floor, so unless you remove the metadata you've covered up, we could, then, tell.
MS. VASQUEZ: I didn't cover it up, Your Honor --
MS. HEARD: Could we unredact it, so we can get context?
THE COURT: That's how it's in evidence. 1] Q_ That's how it's in evidence. 12. A _ The metadata next to it —
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Heard, Ms. Heard. There's no question pending, and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't be making argument to the jury. (116 A Sorry, I thought you had asked me about it.
MS. VASQUEZ: No, I didn't ask you about anything. Let's look at your direct testimony from the third day.
MS. VASQUEZ: Your Honor, may I approach. May 26, 2022
THE COURT: Yes, ma'am. Thank you.
MS. HEARD: Thank you.
MS. VASQUEZ: Let's tum to page 4750, in day 17 . transcript.
MS. HEARD: Sorry, can you repeat that?
MS. VASQUEZ: 4750. Specifically, line 16. Do you see where Ms. Bredehoft asked you to describe for the jury what took place on May 21st, 2016?
MS. HEARD: I see that.
MS. VASQUEZ: And do you see that your testimony is reflected about May 21, 2016?
MS. VASQUEZ: That follows?
MS. HEARD: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Now, let's tum to page 4804, at line 14. 4804, starting at line 14.
MS. HEARD: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Through 4805, line 4.
MS. HEARD: Going to what line?
MS. VASQUEZ: Line 4 at 4805. Do you see that you're testifying that Defendant's Exhibit 725, which is reflected on the right side, reflects spilled wine on the floor in penthouse 5?
MS. HEARD: That's correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: And Defendant's Exhibit 512 and 725 seem to be different versions of the same picture, don't they?
MS. HEARD: That's correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: Okay. So which is it? Which one was taken on December 15th, 2015 or May 21st, 2016?
MS. HEARD: If you remove the redacted metadata, you can find out. It's right there.
MS. HEARD: Recognize a portion of spilled wine on floor, and I'm supposed to know, off the top of my head, when you've lived through five years of this stuff? I don't think so. That's not how that works.
MS. VASQUEZ: Okay.
MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Tom.
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Heard, at the beginning of your
MR. ROTTENBORN: Your Honor, may we approach?
THE COURT: Yes.
MR. ROTTENBORN: The snickering from the gallery is extremely distracting --
MS. VASQUEZ: I actually agree with Mr. Rottenborn. That's inappropriate.
MR. ROTTENBORN: There's someone 1] sitting on aisle, believe it's my side --
THE COURT: Do you know who it is?
MR. ROTTENBORN: I think it's the blonde lady in thé third row. And just generally speaking, it's --
MS. VASQUEZ: I agree with Mr. Rottenborn.
THE COURT: I'm going to admonish them
MR. ROTTENBORN: We can agree on that.
MS. VASQUEZ: Yeah, look at us, getting along.
THE COURT: What I'll do is admonish What I'll do is admonish 720 I the gallery.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you want to skip back?
MS. HEARD: Sight to be seen.
THE COURT: What I'll do is Tl admonish the gallery right now, and tell them if! hear another word, I'll just clear the gallery for the rest of the testimony. -
MS. VASQUEZ: I have only, like, five minutes left, Your Honor.
THE COURT: That will take care of it.
THE COURT: Ladies and gentlemen in the gallery, I would ask there be no words, no phrases, no words, no sounds at all coming from you. If I hear one more sound, I will clear the gallery, and we will continue this testimony without anybody in the courtroom. Understood? Good. All right. Your next question.
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Heard, at the beginning of your
MS. VASQUEZ: May 26,2022 where you told Mr. Depp to tell the jury, tell the judge, tell the world that he is a victim of domestic abuse. Do you remember that?
MS. HEARD: That's correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: And you testified you found it hard to believe that Mr. Depp would tell the world that he's a victim of domestic abuse, didn't you?
MS. HEARD: I said I find it hard to believe that he would do that knowing that he, himself, had beat me up for five years.
MS. VASQUEZ: But he has told the world that he's your victim of domestic abuse, hasn't he?
MS. HEARD: Well, he started to say that only recently. He didn't make that claim up until very recently. So when we signed our divorce agreement and we signed a statement saying that neither party had ever said false claims for financial gain, it was relevant and important to me because I was the only one making the accusations, I was the only one making those claims. He wasn't doing that at the time, and he signed his name to it.
MS. VASQUEZ: You didn't expect as many people to show up and testify on his behalf that did, did you?
MS. HEARD: Incorrect.
MS. VASQUEZ: When you told this jury, under oath, that you never assaulted -- actually, strike that.
MS. VASQUEZ: Sorry, Your Honor.
MS. VASQUEZ: When you told this jury, under oath, that you punched Mr. Depp because you thought of Mr. Depp pushing Kate Moss down the stairs, you didn't expect Ms. Moss to agree to testify that that never happened, did you?
MS. HEARD: Incorrect. I know how many people will come out of the woodwork to be in support of Johnny —
MS. VASQUEZ: So you're saying that Ms. Moss -- 17. A -—just like everyone in this courtroom has come to do that.
MS. VASQUEZ: Needs to come out of the woodwork to testify for Mr. Depp? 21. A Everybody who was around in the '90s '-and the early - knew that rumor. I had heard that rumor from multiple people. Of course that's what flashed through my head when my violent husband not only swung for me, but all the sudden, swung for my sister. Of course I thought of that. I didn't expect her to show up or not expect her to show up. It didn't matter. It doesn't change what I believed at the time when we were on the stairs and I thought he was going to kill my sister by pushing her down the stairs.
MS. VASQUEZ: You told this jury, under oath, that Mr. Depp was aggressive and trashed a trailer in Hicksville. You didn't expect the manager of the Hicksville property, Morgan Night, to come forward and testify that that wasn't true, did you? <A Incorrect. I've already been through trials with this man. I know how many will come out in support of him.
MS. VASQUEZ: When you told this jury, under oath, that you had no idea that the paparazzi would be at the courthouse on May 27th, 2016, you didn't expect a TMZ employee to show up to testify that TMZ had been alerted that you would be at the
MS. HEARD: I know how many people will come out and say whatever for him. That's his power. That's why I wrote the op-ed. I was speaking to that phenomenon. How many people will come out in support of him and will fall to his power. He is a very powerful man, and people love currying favor with powerful man.
MS. VASQUEZ: Currying favor and risking jail time for committing perjury?
MS. HEARD: Excuse me? I didn't hear your question.
MS. VASQUEZ: You didn't hear my question?
MS. HEARD: Ms. Vasquez, if you don't mind, please, 16.just repeat the question. I didn't hear you. 17. Q Curry favor and commit perjury in this courtroom?
MS. HEARD: I have seen people do this.
MS. VASQUEZ: For a powerful man?
MS. HEARD: I have seen people do this time and time again. That's why I wrote the op-ed.
MS. VASQUEZ: You didn't expect Ben King, the house manager in Australia, to show up from England. He flew from England to testify that Mr. Depp's fingertip was found exactly where he said it would be, did you?
MS. HEARD: Have never heard Johnny testify to knowing where his finger was or really, frankly, making a claim that he knew where it was when it was found. I've never heard Johnny claim that. Johnny has never actually said that.
MS. VASQUEZ: In other words, Ms. Heard --
MS. HEARD: I think the jury—
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Heard, there's no question pending. ‘You didn't expect Keenan White, Mr. Depp's longtime sound technician, to show up and testify that Mr. Depp is not being fed lines through his earpieces, but, instead, music, did you?
MS. HEARD: Not that it matters much, but of course, of course I did. I know how his employees treat him. I know how his team treats him. Of course I expected that.
MS. VASQUEZ: So you probably expected Mr. Isaac Baruch to come and testify for Mr. Depp, right?
MS. HEARD: I'I'm not sure I thought about that.
MS. VASQUEZ: You didn't expect Mr. Baruch to weep, to weep for Mr. Depp after what you put him through, and so many others, with your lies, did you?
MS. HEARD: I relate to — I relate to Isaac because he and I are the only ones who cried on the stand.
MS. VASQUEZ: No further questions, Your Honor. Nothing further.
THE COURT: Allright. Redirect.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Thank you, Your Honor.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Ms. Heard, if Mr. Baruch felt misled, who misled him?
MS. HEARD: Johnny. And I don't blame him. I don't blame him for crying. This is horrible.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Ms. Vasquez has suggested that you faked bruises on your face. Is that true?
MS. HEARD: Absolutely not. I didn't need to.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Did you ever fake an injury caused by Mr. Depp?
MS. HEARD: No.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Is any of the evidence of your injuries that has been put to the jury in this trial fake?
MS. HEARD: No. Absolutely not.
MR. ROTTENBORN: And to the extent that there may be 1] some confusion over when a picture of spilled wine was taken, why might that be?
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Lack of foundation.
THE COURT: Overruled. Because there's so many incidents of violence, there are so there's so many pictures. There's so much evidence. Most people don't have this kind of evidence for years. Five years. And when I was saying that to Johnny on the phone in that recording, I was saying for years, this has been going on, and I have J pictures. We have texts, we have everything. You normally don't get this amount of evidence. That's what I was pointing out to Johnny. I would be crazy to try to challenge this in this way. It's crazy. It's easy to not know the context of a picture of spilled wine because there are so many more important details, pictures, and, also, so much J didn't photograph, so much I didn't have the presence.
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Nonresponsive.
THE COURT: Allright. I'll sustain the objection. Next question.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Did Mr. Depp abuse you physically?
MS. HEARD: Yes.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Verbally?
MS. HEARD: Yes.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Emotionally?
MS. HEARD: Yes.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Psychologically?
MS. HEARD: Yes.
MR. ROTTENBORN: How did the threats that Mr. Depp made against you individually, years ago, resemble what you have endured as a result of the Depp/Waldman statements?
MS. VASQUEZ: Beyond the scope of cross, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MS. HEARD: Johnny promised me, promised me, he would ruin me. That he would ruin my career, he'd take my life from me. Death was the only way out, and if I got out, this is what he'd do to me. He'd make me think of him every single day. He promised me global humiliation, you saw those texts. He — what he couldn't do, the work of one individual, meaning Johnny, when he was inviting a disgruntled employee over for a spot of purple to fix my flabby ass up, that revenge that he sought, back then, was just what he could do as an individual. Calling a studio to get me fired. Trying to block --
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Lack of foundation. Speculation. Hearsay. Lack of foundation. Speculation. Hearsay.
THE COURT: I'll sustain as to nonresponsive,
MR. ROTTENBORN: Ms. Heard, how did those things that you testified to, that Mr. Depp did, how do those resemble what happened after the Depp/Waldman counterclaim statements were made?
MS. HEARD: Those are --
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Lack of foundation.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MR. ROTTENBORN: Thank you, Your Honor.
MS. HEARD: Those are just an echo of what I'm living through today. It's what I'm living in right now. `What you see in this courtroom is an echo. This courtroom and the other courtroom he dragged me into to do this same thing again. ` That's just an echo of the violence and the abuse that [ suffered within our relationship, The campaigns to have me fired, the blocking me to try to ruin my career. The threats he's made to humiliate me globally. All being lived out in real time in front of you, ladies and gentlemen, for the past six weeks, and for the whole world, since there are cameras here.
MR. ROTTENBORN: No further questions. Thank you very much, Amber.