Keenan Wyatt — Direct/Cross/Redirect
841 linesTHE COURT: 16 Keenan Wyatt. Can you spell that name for me?
THE COURT: All right Mr. Wyatt KEENAN WYATT a witness called on behalf of the I plaintiff and counterclaim defendant, having been duly sworn by the clerk, was examined and Wyatt, W-A -- W-Y-A-T-T.
THE COURT: All right Thanks so much I testified as follows: EXAMINATION BY COUNSEL FOR THE PLAINTIFF AND
KEENAN WYATT: Good morning. --- --- I I
KEENAN WYATT: Keenan Wyatt.
KEENAN WYATT: Thousand Oaks, California.
KEENAN WYATT: I'm a sound technician on feature Is films.
KEENAN WYATT: Over 35 years.
MR. CHEW: Would you please briefly describe for the jury what a sound technician on films work -- does?
KEENAN WYATT: Well, the - technically, just do the dialogue recording while on the set so it's as clean as possible.
KEENAN WYATT: Yes, I do.
KEENAN WYATT: I've known Johnny for over 25 years, and we're good friends.
MR. CHEW: Yes, I have. For how many of Mr. Depp's films have you worked with him as the sound technician?
KEENAN WYATT: Dozens. Dozens of films.
KEENAN WYATT: I've done the five Pirates of the Caribbean movies, Alice in Wonderland, Rum Diary, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Ninth Gate, Lone Ranger, a number of films.
KEENAN WYATT: Captain Jack Sparrow.
KEENAN WYATT: No.
KEENAN WYATT: No.
KEENAN WYATT: No.
KEENAN WYATT: Yes. I worked for Infinitum Nihil.
KEENAN WYATT: Last time I was there was probably 2017. I worked on a contract basis with him, not as an employee.
MR. CHEW: And would you very briefly describe for the jury what work you did for Infinitum Nihil in 2017?
KEENAN WYATT: I ran the media library with him, did some archiving, recording, editing, things like that.
MR. CHEW: How would you describe, briefly, your working relationship with Mr. Depp in the 25 years or so that you've worked together?
KEENAN WYATT: Johnny's great to work with on films. He always comes very prepared and knows what he wants to do and makes it for a fun day when we're shooting.
KEENAN WYATT: Oh, many directors. But we've done several films, multiple films with multiple directors. Like Tim Burton, Gore Verbinski, Rob Marshall, we've done multiple films with them.
KEENAN WYATT: Johnny makes it easy to work with.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection. Foundation.
MR. CHEW: Your Honor, he's laid the foundation. He's worked with Mr. Depp for 25 years on more than ten feature films.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And relevance.
THE COURT: I'll allow it. Go ahead.
KEENAN WYATT: Well, he - the directors like working I for him. He comes with -
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection. Hearsay. Move to strike.
THE COURT: I'll allow it. Go ahead.
KEENAN WYATT: Johnny makes it easy to work with. He comes prepared. He knows what he wants to do with !s the characters, and he collaborates very well with the directors.
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
KEENAN WYATT: Well, arguing going on between him and Amber.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection. Hearsay, I foundation.
THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.
MR. CHEW: What basis -- strike that. Did you communicate with crew members on the set of Pirates 5?
KEENAN WYATT: Every day, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection. Calls for hearsay.
THE COURT: All right. I'll sustain as to what the crew may have told him
THE COURT: Right. I'll sustain the objection.
MR. CHEW: Putting aside occasional lateness on the set of Pirates 5, was production of Pirates 5 ever suspended for any period of time?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection. Calls for hearsay, foundation. How would he know that?
THE COURT: If you can ask how he knew it, if you want to lay the foundation, that's fine.
KEENAN WYATT: I was on the film. I was working on the film.
THE COURT: Okay.
KEENAN WYATT: So I know it was suspended for probably for two or three weeks.
KEENAN WYATT: Johnny had to go back to Los Angeles because his finger had been cut off, tip of his finger had been cut off.
MR. CHEW: Do you have any understanding of how Mr. Depp's, or the top of Mr. Depp's finger was cut off?
KEENAN WYATT: No, I don't know.
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. CHEW: And I believe you testified that production was suspended for a period of two or three weeks. Did there come a time when Mr. Depp returned from Los Angeles to Australia for completion of the shooting of Pirates 5?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes, he did.
KEENAN WYATT: He's an executive at Disney.
MR. CHEW: After Mr. Depp returned to the set of Pirates 5 in Australia, what, if any, interactions did you observe between Mr. Depp and Mr. Bailey?
KEENAN WYATT: Sean had come to set one day and sat and talked with Johnny for a while, and they talked about collaborating and doing some stuff in the future.
KEENAN WYATT: Absolutely, yes.
MR. CHEW: Has Mr. Depp ever worn an earpiece in any of the many movies in which you've worked with him?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
KEENAN WYATT: Well, I believe it was - !is
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection, Your Honor. First of all, relevance, foundation.
THE COURT: What's the relevance?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Hearsay.
THE COURT: Okay. Sure.
MR. CHEW: Your Honor, this is very few questions about this. Part of their case is that Johnny is an alcoholic and a drug addict, and he can't remember his lines. And I need to establish that he uses earpieces for a very different reason.
THE COURT: Well, I think if you want to direct it towards him, but the last question you said was "Why do people generally use earpieces in the film?"
THE COURT: That's all right. If you want to just direct it to Johnny Depp, that's fine.
THE COURT: Uh-huh.
MR. CHEW: Mr. Wyatt, has Mr. Depp ever worn an earpiece in any of the movies in which you've worked with him?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection. Leading.
THE COURT: I'll allow it. And he already answered it anyway, but.
THE COURT: That's okay. I'll allow it.
KEENAN WYATT: Yes, he has.
KEENAN WYATT: First time we used it was on a movie he was directing called The Brave. We were doing a scene with Marlon Brando who wears an earpiece for receiving his dialogue.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection.
THE COURT: I'll allow it. That's fine. Go ahead.
KEENAN WYATT: Marlon uses an earpiece for his dialogue, and it was a long shooting day. And we let Johnny, as the director, let Marlon go after - --- ------------- - ---- ---- we shot Marlon's section of the film. And then, too, for Johnny's character to act against something other than just a blank nothing, we put Marlon's performance in an earpiece into Johnny so he could act up against Marlon's performance.
MR. CHEW: Did Mr. Depp ever use an earpiece for some other purpose other than listening to Mr. Brando's dialogue?
KEENAN WYATT: After that we started using an earpiece all the time where Johnny would listen to music while acting. We would play all different kinds of music depending on the character he was playing. He and I would talk about it beforehand, and sometimes it would be classical, sometimes it would be rock, sometimes it would be blues. It depended on the character.
MR. CHEW: To what extent, if any, did you and Mr. Depp use that process in other movies in which you worked together?
KEENAN WYATT: We used that on every movie.
MR. CHEW: Mr. Wyatt, on those occasions, in addition to feeding Mr. Depp music, did you ever Is read lines to him?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
KEENAN WYATT: Johnny typically likes to go into makeup in the morning and write his own dialogue and rewrite his dialogue, so sometimes there's not enough time to always, you know, to remember the lines and learn them, so I would remind him in his ear sometimes while music was playing at the same time.
MR. CHEW: And, Mr. Wyatt, in your long experience working with Mr. Depp on films, how would you describe his level of preparedness on the set?
KEENAN WYATT: He's absolutely prepared. He knows what he wants the character to be. He collaborates with the director on what his ideas are, but he always comes very prepared.
MR. CHEW: And, Mr. Wyatt, during your long relationship with Mr. Depp, what, if any, opportunity have you had to observe his sense of
KEENAN WYATT: Quite often.
KEENAN WYATT: He likes, like, British humor. He's sometimes a little dark, maybe. He likes plays on words, that sort of thing.
KEENAN WYATT: Monty Python, there's a show in England called The Fast Show, which he used to love watching.
MR. CHEW: Mr. Wyatt, what, if any, relationship do you have with Mr. Depp outside of your working relationship?
KEENAN WYATT: We're close. I used to, after a film, sometimes he'd call, and I would go on vacation with he and his family.
KEENAN WYATT: Well, he would call after a film, and i he would be going away with the kids and Vanessa, and he would say, "Hey, you know, we're going to I the island. Would you come with me?" and stuff or "We're going to France. Would you come along?" And sure, why not?
KEENAN WYATT: Vanessa Paradis.
KEENAN WYATT: She is the mother of Johnny's two kids, Jack and Lily-Rose.
MR. CHEW: And, Mr. Wyatt, on how many occasions, if you can recall, did you accompany Mr. Depp, Ms. Paradis, and Johnny's two children on vacations?
KEENAN WYATT: Several times.
MR. CHEW: On those several occasions where you accompanied them on vacation, did you ever observe Mr. Depp and Vanessa interact with each other?
KEENAN WYATT: Sure. Yes.
KEENAN WYATT: They were a loving couple, and everything was fine. It was a family.
MR. CHEW: Did you ever hear or see Mr. Depp yell or raise his voice at Vanessa Paradis, the mother of his children?
KEENAN WYATT: Not that I recall.
KEENAN WYATT: Never.
MR. CHEW: And I believe you testified, Mr. Wyatt, that Mr. Depp's and Ms. Paradis's children, Lily-Rose and Jack, were there on those vacations; is that correct?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
KEENAN WYATT: Sure. Yes.
MR. CHEW: Would you please describe for the jury, very briefly, Mr. Depp's interactions with his children, Jack and Lily-Rose?
KEENAN WYATT: He was a very loving father. He used to do stuff with the kids all the time, going swimming at the island and teaching them scuba diving and, you know, just drawing, a lot of drawing, doing artwork.
KEENAN WYATT: Not that I recall. Nothing that stands out, no.
KEENAN WYATT: We would drink - we'd drink alcohol Is quite often.
MR. CHEW: And on those occasions in which you had alcohol with Mr. Depp, how, if at all, did his behavior change?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't remember it changing at all. I don't remember it changing.
KEENAN WYATT: No, no. Sleepy.
KEENAN WYATT: I've seen him take pills. Don't know what they were. I wouldn't know what they were, but that's all.
MR. CHEW: Based on your observations when you have seen him taking pills, how, if at all, did the taking of pills affect his behavior?
KEENAN WYATT: I didn't see any change in Johnny. I don't recall anything changing. :2 i
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
KEENAN WYATT: On the set of Rum Diary.
KEENAN WYATT: Several. Several times.
MR. CHEW: Would you please describe for the jury, I very briefly, your relationship with Ms. Heard ' ! 13 after you saw her the first few times?
KEENAN WYATT: I mean, I don't really have a relationship with her. We didn't sit and talk. I didn't- I didn't hang out with her or anything I like that. f 18
MR. CHEW: Did there come a time when you became aware that Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard were romantically involved?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MR. CHEW: How often did you see Mr. Depp after he started a romantic relationship with Ms. Heard?
KEENAN WYATT: Oh, I don't recall. I didn't see him that often, but I don't recall how often, how often, but I didn't see him - I didn't see him that much.
MR. CHEW: How often did you interact with Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard when the two of them were together?
KEENAN WYATT: Just only occasionally did I see them. We would - I would leave them alone, let him have his time with Amber. I wasn't into interfering.
MR. CHEW: And on those occasions where you interacted with Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard as a couple, did you ever hear Mr. Depp yell at or raise his voice to Ms. Heard?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MR. CHEW: On what occasions, if any, did he ever raise his hand to or otherwise abuse Ms. Heard?
KEENAN WYATT: I've never seen him be violent towards anybody.
MR. CHEW: Did there come a time in May 2014 when you traveled with Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard by private plane from Boston to Los Angeles?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
KEENAN WYATT: It was Amber and Johnny, Stephen, Savannah, and Jerry Judge and myself.
KEENAN WYATT: Stephen Deuters is Johnny's assistant.
KEENAN WYATT: Savannah was Amber's assistant.
MR. CHEW: And I think the jury has heard the name Jerry Judge, but if you could, please, explain to the jury again who Jerry Judge is.
KEENAN WYATT: Jerry Judge is Johnny's security.
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know the exact circumstances of that flight. I didn't travel with the two of them that often. I was probably headed back to Los Angeles to see my daughter.
KEENAN WYATT: We came in a car.
KEENAN WYATT: It was Jerry, Stephen, Nathan, Johnny, jlO and myself.
KEENAN WYATT: Nathan is his - is Johnny's other assistant, Nathan Holmes.
MR. CHEW: What, if any, alcohol or drugs did you see Mr. Depp take while on the car ride to the airport?
KEENAN WYATT: On the car ride, I don't recall anything being taken. We - Johnny, I know, had called Jack during the car right to talk to him to tell him we were on our way, and we were listening 121 to the World Cup that was going on at the time.
KEENAN WYATT: Jack is Johnny's little boy.
MR. CHEW: When you and Mr. Depp and the security personnel arrived at the plane, who, if anyone, was there at the plane?
KEENAN WYATT: The plane had come from New York with Amber and Savannah already on it.
MR. CHEW: What, if anything, did you observe 1! about Ms. Heard's behavior on that Boston flight? .10
KEENAN WYATT: Well, she was giving Johnny the cold shoulder, being quiet, and, you know, seemed pouty.
KEENAN WYATT: At one point I went up to her and said something to the effect of, you know, "He cares about you," and all of a sudden she snapped and started yelling at me, "How dare you talk to me? Get away from me." You know, so I went back to the seat and minded my own business.
MR. CHEW: When she said those things to you, would you describe the tone of her voice if you remember it?
KEENAN WYATT: She was abruptly loud It was a quiet plane; all of a sudden it got very loud.
KEENAN WYATT: Yeah.
KEENAN WYATT: Johnny had said something to her, like, you know, "Don't talk to my friend that way," and I just stayed in my seat and finished the rest of the flight.
MR. CHEW: And after you went back to your seat, to what extent, if any, were you able to see Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard?
KEENAN WYATT: I was able to see them very clearly.
MR. CHEW: What, if any violence or physical altercation did you observe between Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard once you'd gone back to your seat?
KEENAN WYATT: I've never seen Johnny be violent towards anybody.
MR. CHEW: To what extent, if any, did you observe Mr. Depp or Ms. Heard hit, kick, or throw anything - at each other on the plane?
KEENAN WYATT: No. I don't recall that at all.
KEENAN WYATT: Sure, yes.
KEENAN WYATT: Seem intoxicated? No. He seemed like Johnny. No. He seemed normal.
MR. CHEW: Did there come a time, Mr. Wyatt, when you learned that Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard were getting married to each other?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
KEENAN WYATT: I was at the Infinitum office, and Christi came to me and said, "Hey" -
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection. Hearsay.
MR. CHEW: I'm just asking. It's not for the proof I'm just asking him how he found out about the wedding.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Relevance.
THE COURT: All right. What's the relevance?
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. CHEW: I'm just getting to the rushed nature of the wedding and how they all found out about it at the last minute. I mean, I think it's relevant because he saw them interact, so I'm asking him how they interacted.
THE COURT: Okay. You can get to the wedding. I'm not sure it's relevant how he found out about it.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And that's fine.
KEENAN WYATT: Yes,I did.
KEENAN WYATT: There were two weddings, one at Betty Sue's house, Johnny's mom's house, and then another one on the island. The one on the island I I did not attend
MR. CHEW: What, if anything, did you observe at the Los Angeles ceremony that you attended at Betty Sue, Mr. Depp's mother's house?
KEENAN WYATT: It was all very quick. I mean we all found out about it at the last moment. It was a bit of confusion. Johnny had a friend from out of town, and she wasn't sure what was going on. Little Jack didn't understand what was going on.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection. Hearsay.
THE COURT: I'll sustain as to other people. Go ahead.
KEENAN WYATT: She was very happy go lucky. She was all dressed up. All of her friends were nicely dressed up and ready for a wedding.
MR. CHEW: Have you ever, in the course of your interactions with Ms. Heard, ever seen any marks, injuries, or bruises on her?
KEENAN WYATT: I have not, no.
MR. CHEW: During the decades that you have known Mr. Depp, to what extent, if any, are you aware of any woman other than Ms. Heard accusing him of abuse?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection, Your Honor. Foundation, hearsay.
THE COURT: I'll allow it.
KEENAN WYATT: I've never seen Johnny abuse anybody, ever.
THE COURT: Why don't we go ahead and take our break?
THE COURT: Let's go ahead and take our morning break for 15 minutes. Do not say anything to -- do not talk to anybody about the case, and don't look up anything. If a juror needs to address something to me, please write it down and give it to the deputy, okay? All right. Thank you. You're excused for 15 minutes.
THE COURT: All right. Mr. Wyatt, since you're still in the middle of your testimony, you can't discuss the case or your testimony with the attorneys or with Mr. Depp at this time, okay? All right. Thank you. Let's just come back at let's make it 11 :20, okay? We'll come back at 11 :20.
COURT BAILIFF: All rise.
COURT BAILIFF: All rise. Please be seated and come to order.
THE COURT: If I could have you approach the bench just for a moment.
THE COURT: Okay. So juror -- we'll find the juror, the young man in the back.
THE COURT: Is I
MS. BREDEHOFT: Number 4.
THE COURT: Number 4. He's feeling very anxious. He seems to be having some sort of mental health issue, but he says he's okay right now. He thinks at lunchtime, he might be able to get some medicine and be okay. I might keep my eye on him. I'm a little concerned because I guess Judy said she saw him on the elevator, too, and he was talking to himself, acting a little off, so I'm not sure exactly. But I'll keep my eye on him. He said he's okay until lunch.
THE COURT: I didn't talk to him, that's through a deputy who says he said he's okay through lunch, but we'll keep an eye on him and see exactly what's going on with him. And at lunchtime we'll have a better -- I was going to, after this witness, go ahead and take an early lunch.
MR. CHEW: I think that makes sense, Your Honor, because we have some issues. We have almost a hundred percent agreement on the recordings, but I think we could use the time to kind of finish that up.
THE COURT: Okay. Sure. So we'll send them to lunch after this witness, and we'll continue for a little while so we can take care of I s some things, okay? Is that good?
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. We're ready for the jury.
THE COURT: All right.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, Mr. Wyatt, you testified that you've been a sound technician for pretty much most of your career, right?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And let's go to that Marlon Brando. He used an earpiece for his lines to be fed to him, correct, at that time?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And when was that? When was The Brave filmed?
KEENAN WYATT: Mid '90s.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And so ever since then, Mr. Depp has thought it was a good idea and has used an earpiece, correct?
KEENAN WYATT: He has used an earpiece, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And you're the person who controls what goes into his earpiece --
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Is that correct? Okay. lines?
MS. BREDEHOFT: So it could be music, it could be Yes. It could be anything, right?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And you have been his sound technician since the 1990s all the way up through at least 2016, correct?
KEENAN WYATT: There's been a couple of us, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. But you actually have been on almost all of his movies haven't you?
KEENAN WYATT: Been on most of them, not all of them.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And in fact, not only are you his sound technician, but you are named in his contracts as his sound technician, correct?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know that.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Well, let's pull up Exhibit Number -- let's go to 633.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to show you what has been marked as Defendant's Exhibit 633, and it's the contract for Pirates of the Caribbean from August 2022 [sic].
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I didn't hear his answer.
THE COURT: I'll allow it. Go ahead.
KEENAN WYATT: I see it. It says August 2002.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Let's tum to page 16, actually, I the one before that. Oh, it's two before that, I think. There we go.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see where it says "Location Assistance"?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And if you go down, it has your name specifically on there. Does it not say "Keenan Wyatt"?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes...
MS. BREDEHOFT: And this particular one, it has Sam Sarkar and Keenan Wyatt; do you see that?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: But eventually it just became Keenan Wyatt in all the contracts, right?
KEENAN WYATT: I do not know. I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then as part of this, in
MS. BREDEHOFT: Each of Mr. Depp's contracts, he had what you were . going to get paid, correct?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know what's in his contract.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Well, on this one it was 14.28 per hour, correct?
THE COURT: All right. Well, he doesn't know this contract if you want to frame it I as a different question.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, you, on every one of his I contracts, had an hourly rate and a guarantee at n of at least 60 hours a week, right?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Surely he has to know how he was getting paid.
THE COURT: You can ask him that question.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know how you were getting paid on each of these films?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes. I get paid through a payroll company from the production companies.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And these were all negotiated by Mr. Depp, correct?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Or his company?
KEENAN WYATT: I'm paid by the - union sets the rate for me.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Right. But you're aware that Mr. Depp has negotiated and then put you in his contracts, right?
MS. BREDEHOFT: UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Lack of foundation. Calls for speculation.
THE COURT: I'll allow that answer if he can answer it.
KEENAN WYATT: I'm sorry.
THE COURT: Do you want to ask the question again?
MS. BREDEHOFT: You're aware that Mr. Depp has put you into each of his contracts including how much you get paid and all of your perks, right?
KEENAN WYATT: I see it here, but when I'm hired by a production company, I get paid by the production p p y g p y p company at my, you know, rate for the job that I'm doing. That's not the rate I make when I'm working on a production.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. All right. Well, let's stay on this one just for a minute, and then we'll take a look at the couple more because you ended up with a lot higher rate pretty soon. But you also had your airfare paid for, correct, for travel?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You also were put up in the same hotel as Mr. Depp if he was in a hoteL correct?
KEENAN WYATT: Not necessarily all the time.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Right. And if he was in a house, then you got a comparable hotel close by, right?
KEENAN WYATT: I got a place to stay wherever we were filming, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And it was comparable?
KEENAN WYATT: Comparable to Johnny's? No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: It was a positive? It was a nice hoteL wasn't it?
KEENAN WYATT: Yeah. I mean, productions, we usually stayed at nice hotels.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So is it your testimony that you didn't know that you were named specifically and the terms of your compensation and your benefits were in every single one of Mr. Depp's contracts?
MS. BREDEHOFT: It has not, and I --
THE COURT: I'll allow it this time.
KEENAN WYATT: I did not know it was in the contract.
THE COURT: Okay. Next question.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. I'm going to -- let's go take a look, real quick, I'm going to flip over to 855. And this is a contract, December 4, 2008, with Paramount Pictures for Rango. Do you recall that?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You were his sound technician there, I correct?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And if we turn to page 12, which is the second one, if you look down there, your name is right there. You're designated as sound technician, correct? Do you see that?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And then let's flip to the next page. And that has 3500 per week, correct?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you remember getting $3,500 a week?
KEENAN WYATT: I get whatever the weekly rate is for the union position that I'm doing. I don't know - at this time, I don't recall what the rate was. I don't know if that's what I got or not. But I got what the union set as my minimum rate.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And again, you didn't know that p3 l\!Ir. Depp negotiated this into his contract?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then if we go down a little bit further here, it has you round trip class -- coach class transportation.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And then it has hotel accommodations and per diem on the same basis as the crew of the picture in this one, correct?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes. Well, we were in - Rango was in Los Angeles, so none of that would have taken place.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Right. So it was a lot easier.
KEENAN WYATT: Yeah. accommodations?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Then let's jump to Plaintiffs Exhibit 842, and this is Pirates of the Caribbean, July 2014, this would be for 5, right?
MR. CHEW: Your Honor, lack of foundation. These are contracts to which Mr. Wyatt was not a party.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, it's not offered to prove the truth of the contract.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, let me ask it this way: For Pirates 5, you were -- what was your hotel
KEENAN WYATT: I was staying in a condominium that the rest of the crew was staying in.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And how much were you getting paid on Pirates 5?
KEENAN WYATT: Whatever the union minimum was for my job.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you have any idea what it was?
KEENAN WYATT: No. I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay.
KEENAN WYATT: I'd have to look it up.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And were you aware that your compensation and benefits were in Mr. Depp's Pirates contract?
KEENAN WYATT: No, I did not.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Now, let's go to Pirates 5 in particular. I think you testified that Mr. Depp was occasionally late, late a lot to the set?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't recall. I mean, he was late, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: There are days he didn't show up at all, weren't there?
KEENAN WYATT: Could have been. I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And there were days that he didn't show up for six, seven hours, correct?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And, in fact, he wasn't showing up before Amber ever got to Australia; isn't that correct?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know that.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall him going on a binge with ! Marilyn Manson for a few days?
KEENAN WYATT: No, I - ls
THE COURT: I'll allow it.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You don't recall that? I'm sorry. Do you recall?
KEENAN WYATT: No, I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You don't recall one way or the other? Or you just --
KEENAN WYATT: No. I didn't visit Johnny when they I were in Australia. I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So you had no --
KEENAN WYATT: He had a house. I had a condominium in downtown.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So you don't know what was causing Johnny to be late or whether he was taking a Jot ' - - ---------- I - I of alcohol and drugs?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Is that fair to say?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And you said that you observed Johnny Depp talking with Sean Bailey after he came back. Let's go to that. You said there was a two- to three-week delay. In fact, it was closer to five to six weeks, wasn't it?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't recall what it was.
MS. BREDEHOFT: It's significant when the entire crew has to stop for that period of time, isn't it?
UNKNOWN SPEAKER: Objection. To Ms. Bredehoft's testimony.
THE COURT: Alright. I'll sustain the objection. Ask a question.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Pretty significant, isn't it, when there's a delay?
KEENAN WYATT: It's significant. I don't think the film completely shut down for all of that. They continued to shoot what they could.
MS. BREDEHOFT: How many of the crew members were impacted by Johnny not being able to be there after he cut off -- after the finger was cut off?
KEENAN WYATT: Well, there was some of the crew, I'm sure, still kept working and filming, filming other scenes without Johnny's character in it.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know how many were impacted?
KEENAN WYATT: No, I don't.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know how much Disney was impacted?
KEENAN WYATT: No, I don't.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So now you say when he came back, he had collaborated with Sean Bailey, right?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: They were talking about how they were going to get together on something, right?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did Johnny do anything with Sean Bailey for the rest of 2015?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know about that year. But I know that they, you know, they talked about collaborating and doing something. Sean and Johnny had worked out Johnny working at the -
MS. BREDEHOFT: Mr. Wyatt, if you could just answer my question.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I asked, "Did he collaborate in 2015?"
THE COURT: Yes. Let him finish the question -- the answer, sorry. Go ahead.
KEENAN WYATT: Johnny and Sean put together Johnny dressing up as Captain Jack and addressing the crowd at the Pirates of the Caribbean ride.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Your Honor, I'm going to move to strike and ask you to ask that to be stricken. That is not responsive to my question.
THE COURT: That's not the question she asked. I mean, do you want to ask him your question again?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes. Did Mr. Bailey collaborate on any projects with Mr. Depp in 2015 after Pirates 5?
KEENAN WYATT: The one I just said, the project of that was a promotional project for -
MS. BREDEHOFT: Was it a film?
KEENAN WYATT: Pirates of the Caribbean. Was it filmed?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Yeah.
KEENAN WYATT: I think it was videotaped or filmed, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Was it a feature film that Disney made money on?
KEENAN WYATT: No, it wasn't a feature film.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Let's go to 2016. Did Sean Bailey collaborate on any film project --
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: With Mr. Depp?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to 2017.
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did Mr. Bailey collaborate with Mr. Depp on any film project?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know the timing of the other Is l things. No, I don't know if he did or not.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Let's go to 2018. Did :Mr. Bailey collaborate at all with Mr. Depp in 2018?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Were you aware that Mr. Bailey said that he -- that Mr. Depp was "out" for Pirates 6 in October of 2018?
THE COURT: All right. I'll sustain as po to hearsay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Let's pull up Plaintiffs Exhibit 115.
THE COURT: You said Plaintiffs 115?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Plaintiffs 115. Oh, defendant's, I'm sorry.
THE COURT: Defendant's.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, this is an article in October of 2018. Do you recall seeing this article?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You never saw it?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't read the -
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Okay.
KEENAN WYATT: I don't read these stories and stuff like that.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So would it be fair to say that you don't know whether Mr. Bailey had determined that Mr. Depp would not be in Pirates 6 as of October of 2018?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't. I don't know. Especially based on this, I don't. I don't believe this stuff anyway.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: We can take that down. Thank you.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Let's talk about your visit with Vanessa and the kids and Mr. Depp. You indicated you went on some vacations with them, correct?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: They were together 14 years?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: How many vacations did you go on with them?
KEENAN WYATT: Several. I don't know. I don't know all of them.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Two, three?
KEENAN WYATT: Probably more than that.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Four?
KEENAN WYATT: Probably more than that. I don't know. Half a dozen, dozen.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. We get to six? Okay.
KEENAN WYATT: Yeah.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Six to 12?
KEENAN WYATT: Right.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And these are all vacations, right?
KEENAN WYATT: After filming, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So these are times where everybody's having fun, relaxing. It's not your regular --
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Day-to-day grind that everybody goes through, right?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, you have no personal knowledge of whether Mr. Depp ever physically I abused Vanessa Paradis, correct? 2
KEENAN WYATT: None that I ever saw.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Right. But you have no knowledge one way -- you don't know, do you?
KEENAN WYATT: None that I saw.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Right. Right. You don't know what went on in their marriage, in their relationship, when you weren't there, correct?
KEENAN WYATT: Not when I wasn't there, no.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And they split up, right?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know why they split up?
KEENAN WYATT: No, I do not.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. You don't know if Mr. Depp I yelled and raised his voice at Vanessa Paradis on ! 16 a daily basis when you weren't around, do you?
KEENAN WYATT: Not when I wasn't around, I don't, no.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And then you were asked at l I the very end by Mr. Chew whether you had ever heard of anyone accusing Mr. Depp of violence, and 121 you said you'd never heard of anyone accusing .22 Mr. Depp of violence. Do you recall that?
KEENAN WYATT: Yeah.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Have you ever heard of Greg Brooks?
KEENAN WYATT: Doesn't - I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: He's a manager on the set from City of Lies --
KEENAN WYATT: Okay. I 8
MS. BREDEHOFT: Who has filed a lawsuit against Mr. Depp for punching him.
MS. BREDEHOFT: That's fair game. Your Honor.
THE COURT: I'll allow it. Go ahead.
KEENAN WYATT: I don't. I mean, I don't know what happened. I've never seen.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Have you ever heard of that?
KEENAN WYATT: I've never seen him be violent to anybody.
MS. BREDEHOFT: But you testified you never heard of that, so have you ever heard of Greg Brooks accusing Mr. Depp of punching him on the set of City of Lies?
KEENAN WYATT: Yeah. I mean, I've heard it. I don't know any basis of it, though.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So it's not hue that you've never heard of anyone accusing Mr. Depp of violence, is it?
KEENAN WYATT: I suppose not.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And you don't know whether Mr. Depp committed any domestic abuse or violence on any of the women in his relationships, do you?
KEENAN WYATT: I never witnessed it.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Right. You don't have personal knowledge, though, do you?
KEENAN WYATT: Only what I've witnessed, and I've never witnessed it.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Right. You don't know what went on behind closed doors with any of them?
KEENAN WYATT: I do not.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, let's go to the Boston plane. This was in May of 2014. So you were in I the car with Mr. Depp before he got on the plane?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: How Jong was he in that car?
KEENAN WYATT: How long were we in the car?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Yes.
KEENAN WYATT: I don't recall. 45 minutes, an hour, maybe. I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You sat on the tarmac for quite some time before getting on the plane, didn't you?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You don't recall that?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And is it your testimony that Mr. Depp wasn't drinking anything while he was in the car?
KEENAN WYATT: Not in the car, no.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Had Mr. Depp been drinking anything before he got into the car?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know. I wasn't with him before.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Is it your testimony that Mr. Depp didn't take any drugs while he was in the car?
KEENAN WYATT: Not that I recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know whether he took any drugs before he got in the car?
KEENAN WYATT: I wasn't with him before he got in the car.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I All right. And I think you testified in response to the question that you didn't think is po that he was intoxicated or high?
KEENAN WYATT: No. I mean, he seemed like Johnny.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did he take any Red Bulls that you saw?
KEENAN WYATT: Took any what?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Red Bulls.
KEENAN WYATT: Red Bulls? I don't know. There was occasion where he would drink Red Bulls. I don't know if that was the same time or not.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. Was he drinking vodka with I any Red Bulls? Its
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Was he drinking whiskey?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Was he taking cocaine?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't remember seeing it, no.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you see any powders?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So you get on the airplane, and it's your testimony that Ms. Heard had a bad tone of is i is I voice with Mr. Depp; is that correct?
KEENAN WYATT: She had a bad tone of voice with me.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. In fact, wasn't Mr. Depp saying pretty horrible things to Ms. Heard?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't recall that.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Like "Get fucked on set. Get fucked with fucking James fucking Franco," did you hear I that?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you hear him say, "At least you I fucking liked it"?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you hear him say, "I bet you just slipped a tongue in there and you liked it"?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you hear him say -- make references to Amber's pussy and asking her if her pussy was wet?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you hear any of that?
KEENAN WYATT: No. Not that I recall.
THE COURT: I'll overrule the objection. That's fine. Next question.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, you shared an oxygen tank with Mr. Depp on that Boston plane, didn't you?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You don't recall Mr. Depp insisting that the flight attendant give him an oxygen tank and the two of you used it?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Do you recall Mr. Depp drinking champagne on the plane?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know what he was drinking. I'm sure I was having wine. He could have been having champagne.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you remember him drinking a couple bottles of champagne?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know how much.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And it's your testimony that Mr. Depp I didn't kick Amber?
KEENAN WYATT: I didn't see anything like that.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Did you see Mr. Depp go to the back of the plane and pass out and moan loudly?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't recall that.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You don't recall that either?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Can we pull up Defendant's Exhibit 245, please. And, Your Honor, I show no objection to it in the filings. So I'm going to move the admission of it, and I'm going to ask it to be published.
THE COURT: Any objection to 245?
THE COURT: Allright. if you want to approach, we'll see what's your objections. Do you have your lists of objections from your exhibits?
MS. BREDEHOFT: I do. I have them right here.
MS. BREDEHOFT: This is -- I know. I needed my glasses for this. 245 has no objection.
MS. BREDEHOFT: First of all, it's admitted, so it can be published. But this is Mr. Depp talking about what he drank and what he took in drugs --
MS. BREDEHOFT: Before and at that I time. I 1 s
MS. BREDEHOFT: We're admitting it here.
THE COURT: Who's it from, though?
MS. BREDEHOFT: It's from Depp to Paul Bettany.
THE COURT: To who?
MS. BREDEHOFT: To Paul Bettany.
THE COURT: No. Then it can't come in. Just because they didn't object to it doesn't mean it automatically comes in at trial. You're trying to use it for impeachment. Obviously they can't -- they don't know that's what you're trying to use it for at the time, so there are still hearsay objections and impeachment objections that come up during trial. And right now, he's not even party to this conversation, so I'm not going to allow it. Okay?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Thank you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Excuse me?
MS. BREDEHOFT: No. I'm going to ask questions. I just can't use the document.
THE COURT: Well, you're not going to use it -- you're not going to ask questions about this text, though.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I can't make reference to the text --
MS. BREDEHOFT: Because of Your Honor's ruling, but I'm going to ask him additional questions. But I'm not going to put it in the text.
THE COURT: I just want to make sure we're on the same page. Not involving the words on this text, correct?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Correct.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:
MS. BREDEHOFT: Mr. Wyatt, are you aware that Mr. Deuters apologized to Amber for Mr. Depp's conduct afterward?
THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.
THE COURT: Next question.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Where did you go -- were you with Mr. Depp --
MS. BREDEHOFT: After he left the plane?
THE COURT: It's just on the witness, but, yes.
THE COURT: Okay. Go ahead.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you leave the plane with Mr. Depp?
KEENAN WYATT: I mean, I got off the plane at the same time. I'm assuming I went to my own home.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And what was Mr. Depp's state?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: You don't recall if he was passed out or not?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: When you say you don't recall, as b you're sitting here today under oath, you honestly can't remember if Mr. Depp was passed out when you left the plane? I Honor.
THE COURT: All tight. I'll allow it this one time. Go ahead. You can answer, sir.
KEENAN WYATT: There was lots of plane flights. I mean, the only reason I remember this one was I because Amber yelled at me on that flight.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you remember my question?
KEENAN WYATT: I didn't - I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: All right.
KEENAN WYATT: I mean, I could have gotten off the I plane and just left. I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And Mr. Depp could have kicked Amber on I that plane, right?
KEENAN WYATT: Not that I saw.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And he could have passed out?
KEENAN WYATT: Not that I recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. How many times were you with Amber and Mr. Depp together?
KEENAN WYATT: I have no idea. No idea.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, what would the circumstances have been?
KEENAN WYATT: Invited over for something or other, or, you know, Johnny and I may have been recording some music or something and she was there. I don't know. At work. I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, you had a very close, personal relationship with Christi Dembrowski, didn't you?
KEENAN WYATT: We're friends, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And you were more than friends for I quite a few years, wouldn't you say?
MS. BREDEHOFT: It's impeachment.
THE COURT: Approach, please. :21
THE COURT: All right. What's the problem?
THE COURT: I'm not sure --
MS. BREDEHOFT: He's biased. He had an affair with her for years.
THE COURT: I'm not going there. I'm not. I'm going to sustain that objection. That's more of a sideshow than we're going to. She's not on trial here, okay?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Correct.
THE COURT: All right.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, you testified that the wedding that you went to, the one in Los Angeles, seemed to be a little rushed?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: How long were they engaged?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Could it have been a pretty substantial period of time?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So, when you say "rushed ... "
KEENAN WYATT: We didn't know a wedding was going to happen.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Well, and you said you were at the offices of -- at Infinitum; is that right? When you say "We didn't know any wedding was going to happen," who's "we"?
KEENAN WYATT: Several of the people at the wedding didn't know it was going to happen.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Okay. Now, did you know what Amber's film schedule was?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you know whether she was out of town, coming back in, and leaving again?
KEENAN WYATT: I did not know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did you know what Johnny's film schedule was?
KEENAN WYATT: I probably knew we were off.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Because you were his sound technician?
KEENAN WYATT: Yeah.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay.
KEENAN WYATT: We were starting a film or ending a film or whatever, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And when did you leave for Pirates 5?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't recall when.
MS. BREDEHOFT: What was he fuming right before Pirates 5? i 110
KEENAN WYATT: I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So after they did the Los Angeles wedding, they went to the Bahamas, I correct?
KEENAN WYATT: I don't remember the time difference.
MS. BREDEHOFT: But you didn't go to that wedding?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know how many people did?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know how much organization was involved in getting that wedding together in the Bahamas?
KEENAN WYATT: No, I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know whether -- do you know -- well, okay. I guess you don't know. So I guess I shouldn't ask you then So as a practical matter, you don't know about any of the communications between Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard for when they wanted the wedding to take place, correct?
KEENAN WYATT: Correct
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you I have no further questions.
THE COURT: Okay.
THE COURT: Sure. Redirect.
[SECTION HEADER]: EXAMINATION BY COUNSEL FOR THE PLAINTIFF AND
MR. CHEW: Mr. Wyatt, you testified earlier that you worked with Mr. Depp as his sound technician on more than ten feature films; is that correct?
KEENAN WYATT: Correct.
MR. CHEW: Have you ever worked on feature films, as a sound technician or in any other capacity, on films without Mr. Depp?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes, I have.
MR. CHEW: On those instances and those films not involving Mr. Depp, were your travel costs covered?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes, they are.
KEENAN WYATT: Yes, they are.
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MR. CHEW: Were those arrangements handled in any way different from the films on which you worked with Mr. Depp?
KEENAN WYATT: No.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection, Your Honor. Calls for foundation. Key --
THE COURT: Use your microphone.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Oh, sorry. Objection.----15_9 Your Honor. He's already testified he doesn't know and he wasn't there with him, and he doesn't know.
THE COURT: I'll allow it. Go ahead.
KEENAN WYATT: Sorry. Say it again.
MR. CHEW: What was your understanding of why Mr. Depp was late occasionally on the set of Pirates 5?
KEENAN WYATT: My understanding was he was having arguments with Amber.
MR. CHEW: And the wedding that you attended, or the ceremony in Los Angeles, that was right before Mr. Depp was to start filming Pirates 5, correct?
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection. Foundation. Hearsay.
THE COURT: All right. Foundation. I'll sustain as to foundation.
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
KEENAN WYATT: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection, Your Honor. He's already asked that beforehand, and I went into cross with him.
THE COURT: Asked and answered. Sustain the objection.
MR. CHEW: Thank you, Your Honor. Thank you, Mr. Wyatt, and thank you, Your Honor. Nothing further.
THE COURT: All right. Is this witness subject to recall?
THE COURT: All right. So since you're subject to recall, you cannot discuss your testimony with anybody. And do not watch anything in the news media at this time, and then you may be recalled at the later date, okay?
KEENAN WYATT: Okay.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you, sir. You have a good day. You're excused for today.
THE COURT: Ladies and gentlemen, we have a few housekeeping matters to take care of. And also, I know the cafeteria was a little rough yesterday, so I'm going to go ahead and give you an extended lunch today until 2:00. So just do not discuss the case with anybody and don't do any outside research, and we'll see you back here at 2:00 p.m. Okay. If you just go with Deputy Halusa.
THE COURT: All right. Okay. You said you had some housekeeping matters to take care of.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm not aware of any.
MR. CHEW: We'd like to speak with you about some of the videos if you have a moment before the lunch.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm happy to chat with them, but I --
THE COURT: Okay. So you don't need me for that? Oh, okay.
THE COURT: Oh, okay. I thought you needed me for that.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So you're getting an extended lunch.
THE COURT: So I can get an extended . lunch. Okay. Well, what I'm going to do, just to let you know -- actually if you approach the bench.
THE COURT: With Juror 4, I'm going to -- we have CSB in the building, you know, for mental health services, so I'm going to have one of them come up and just not release him for lunch yet and talk with him, and see exactly if he is having a mental health issue.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I think that's a good
THE COURT: Okay? And so we're going to see where we are, and we can go -- update from there.
THE COURT: I'm sorry about the extended lunch. I thought we had other things to do, but if that works out --
MS. VASQUEZ: Well, we'd appreciate it, Your Honor, because we've met and conferred and started to on the recordings.
THE COURT: Okay. Good.
MS. VASQUEZ: And we have an agreement that both sides can use the other's voices --
THE COURT: During Mr. Depp's?
MS. VASQUEZ: Yeah, uh-huh.
THE COURT: I gotcha.
MS. VASQUEZ: The only thing, we're still ironing out whether we believe, Mr. Depp believes, that only portions of -- we have transcriptions of the recordings.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. VASQUEZ: Both sides do. But we believe, similar to the way Your Honor has been ruling on the text message, only the portions of the transcripts that are displayed --
THE COURT: Right.
MS. VASQUEZ: Should be submitted to the jury as either an aid, if Your Honor would prefer, or admitted into evidence.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Beard's counsel is 111 insisting that the entire transcript should be provided to the jury, and we disagree with that.
THE COURT: As far as when it comes to video coverage and transcripts, they can have the transcripts as aid; they're not evidence.
MS. VASQUEZ: Right.
THE COURT: Okay? So they can have them as an aid as you're watching the video.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Audio. And we're mostly talking about audio here, audio recordings.
THE COURT: Audio. It can be assistance when they hear the audio, but the transcripts, themselves, don't come into evidence. The evidence is the audio recording.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I think the reason that we've got the transcripts, Your Honor, there is one audio recording that's over five hours, and it's...
THE COURT: It doesn't come into evidence unless the audio comes into evidence. I usually don't let transcripts into the jury, but I'll let them --
MS. BREDEHOFT: We just wanted to do that so that --
THE COURT: Okay. That's fine. But if you think it'll help them because maybe there's hard-to-hear parts of the audio, I'll allow them to -- you can pass it to them while they're listening to the audio, and then once it's done, collect them back up.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay.
MS. VASQUEZ: And there's going to be two versions, Your Honor, because we've done transcriptions and they've done transcriptions.
THE COURT: Of course there is.
THE COURT: Okay. So do you want me to come back a little early so I can decide which one? Or are you guys going to figure that out on your own? I'm not going to give the jurors two transcriptions.
MS. VASQUEZ: You're not going to give them two?
THE COURT: No. The whole point is to help them
MS. VASQUEZ: Would it be --
THE COURT: If you can't agree, then I'm not going to give it to them and it's just going to be on their hearing of it.
MS. VASQUEZ: Okay. Or would you be amenable if we play a portion of the transcript, that we provide our transcription, and then --
THE COURT: No. We're not going to do that.
MS. VASQUEZ: No? Okay.
THE COURT: No.
MS. VASQUEZ: Okay.
THE COURT: Okay? So it's either one transcription or none --
MS. VASQUEZ: Or none.
THE COURT: And it doesn't go to the Jury. Okay? We'll see you at 2.
MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you very much, Your Honor.
COURT BAILIFF: All rise.
COURT BAILIFF: All rise. Please be seated and come to order.
THE COURT: Sorry, my microphone was off. I'm sorry, Judy, I've got it.
THE COURT: All right. I hope everyone's lunch went okay, all right? Good.