iO Tillett Wright — Direct/Cross/Redirect

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: No.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: April of last year, April or May. Almost a year ago.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I met Amber in the end of 2011.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: In Los Angeles.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: A friend "as introducing us to each other so that I could photograph her for a large portrait series that I \as doing at the time.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I was a photographer, and I worked for the New York Times, I think. I don't recall exactly everything.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I worked for the New York Times as a journalist and photographer.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I'm a writer and a producer.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I've hosted a television show or two.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I made some podcasts. I wrote two other books, or two books, three books. Three books, I've written three books. A number of things. I don't know.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: 20 There are more things that I -- yeah, I've always been a multi-hyphenated person. To the best of my recollection, we initially met at a mutual friend's house, which I think I already stated. That friend is also an actor and had met Amber at the children's hospital while they were both volunteering and knew that Amber had done quite a bit of LGBT activism and mentioned my project to her and then invited her over to -- the other friend invited Amber to her house so that we could all meet. And Amber and I discovered that we liked the same books, and we liked psychology and just, you know, laughed and had fun that night. And then I asked her if she would participate in the photo project, I think, or somebody did, and she said yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: A couple of days Its later, I went to the house that she was staying at, and I photographed her for the project. And then, thereafter, I went back to New York where I Its lived, and I remember her texting me and saying that she was shooting a movie in New York and did I want to get lunch. So we got lunch, and we became friends.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: We met in 2011. We started becoming friends soon thereafter. In 20 -- very early in 2013, I came to LA to spend a couple of months with my then -- I don't know if she was my girlfriend or my fiancee at that point, but the person I was in a relationship with, in a very serious relationship with -- and during the time that I was in LA, I spent more time with Amber. We both spent more time with Amber.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And I was introduced to Johnny. And the summer of 2013, I ended up moving to LA, during which Amber and Johnny and I got even closer, very, very close. And then, we remained close, the three of us, for twoish years, and then all of this happened, this nightmare, and Johnny and I stopped being friends and Amber and I stayed friends. And then Amber and I were friends up until the date that I told you that we last spoke.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: It was August 2013 until, I believe, June 1st of 2014, I moved into my own house, so nine months.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Because I didn't want to live for free in someone's property, and I wanted to have my own house and support myself.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I stayed close with both of them -- I don't remember. It was a -- hmm. Sometime in 2015, I think, late 2015, maybe, Johnny and I were no longer -- I think the period when I really stopped considering Johnny a friend of mine was December of 2015.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: That's correct. I'd just like to clarify, Mr. Presiado. That's a question you already asked me. Are you asking me the same question again about whether or not I witnessed Mr. Depp assault Ms. Heard?

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: No, I have not witnessed that.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: No.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Johnny, when sober, was lovely and magical and very funny. Johnny, when sober, was incredibly lucid and imaginative, and I felt a kindred connection with him and a shared perspective on the world that I've shared with very few people in my life. Johnny, when sober, understood how much influence he had over people, and he was very kind to them about it and generous with talking to them about whatever came up. And he was also, when sober, very -- you know, he made time for people's nervousness around him, which I witnessed on a number of occasions.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: He also -- he had his number of houses on that street, and there was a constant rotation of different people coming to town who could all afford to live somewhere else or stay somewhere else who he would let and enjoyed living in those houses, which I find to be generous.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I can't answer that with any accuracy because I don't know whether or not the times that I did see him be mean and vicious he was also on OxyContin.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: The substances that I saw him ingest with my own eyes were cocaine and hard liquor, marijuana, ecstasy, mushrooms, wine, probably some other things. Those are the immediate ones that jump to mind. Cocaine and any kind of alcohol would bring out a very, very ugly side of him, very misogynistic and cruel and other things. And when he would take any kind of psychedelic, like ecstasy or MDMA, he would become paranoid, and when he would drink alcohol, he would become paranoid.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yeah. I think I've answered your question.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: No.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I don't smoke marijuana. I don't do cocaine. For the entire period that I knew Johnny and thereafter, I did not drink alcohol. It was a, I think, one-week period during the peak of my breakup, during which Johnny offered me some pain pills to get through the intensity of that situation, and that was the only time that I took any substances for three and a half years -- no, that's not true. That was the only time that I took any substances with Johnny and -- yeah. Yeah. All the other things that I had stated previously about what I do and don't do are also accurate.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: My testimony is that during the entire period that I knew Mr. Depp, I was never drunk or drinking or consuming alcohol at all. My , testimony is that for a one-, maybe two-week, possibly two-and-a-half-week - I don't remember - period, on a sporadic occasion, I took some pain pills that Mr. Depp offered me for- to get through an extreme emotional pain situation.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: When I witnessed Johnny doing cocaine, I was not drunk or high. Other occasions that I witnessed Johnny drinking, I was not drunk or high. It was a very narrow window during which I was taking some non-mind-altering pain pills for a very brief period, during which I witnessed Johnny drunk and high.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Are you asking, like, ever in the history of time, have I ever witnessed Amber Is ingest cocaine?

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: The answer's no. Amber was vehemently against cocaine.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: No. Marijuana is not her drug.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I haven't spoken to Amber in a year, but as far as I know, and I have known her for the I last 11 or 12 years, Amber doesn't have a narcotic of choice.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, I believe so. Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I can think of one instance in particular when she took it for her birthday, like in a celebration.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I don't recall when that would have been.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Are you asking me if other than -- what did you ask me about? -- cocaine, ecstasy, and mushrooms, I've witnessed Amber taking any other illegal narcotics? Or are you asking me about prescription medications? Can you clarify?

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I don't know, but I don't actually think so, no.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Amber drinks red wine when she's not training -- or let me rephrase that. Amber, when I knew her, drank red wine in the evenings fairly regularly, with the exception of when she was training for an acting role.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I don't know how to quantify intoxicated. If you're asking me how often I witnessed her drunk - is that your question?

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Amber's strangely immune to getting drunk unless she's really drunk a lot. So I didn't see her drunk very often. I saw her drinking often, but I didn't see her out of her faculties very often. Like, you know, I saw that a handful of times in the 11 years that I knew her.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: You know, it depends on the circumstance. If it was during a moment when she was celebrating, it would make her loose, like if I were salsa dancing, then, you know, she would have fun and be fun and at a party and, you know, inebriated and dancing and having fun. If she was in a stressful situation, I think it would just kind of exacerbate whatever the feeling of the moment was.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: My name is iO Tillett Wright.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, I do.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: He became a close friend, and I did care very much about him. I still care very much about him.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Sure. Okay. Mr. Depp and I first met. Amber invited me over to his house with my then-partner, girlfriend - I don't know if she was my fiancee yet or not- in, I think, February of 2013, right at the beginning of 2013. And we all hung out, the four of us hung out in his house, in his living room, and just kind of talked and got to know each other, and it was sweet. I was mostly hanging out with Amber and kind of meeting this person, who was a trip to meet someone like that, you know, in his house, very friendly, very welcoming, very kind And then the next time we saw each other was at - Amber and I both like to do what we call "family dinners," so we invite people over and cook for them and have a dinner party, and Amber did an elaborate family dinner at her house. O And Johnny and I and my ex and Amber and, I believe, Whitney were there. I don't know if anyone else was there. I'm sure so many other people were there, I don't remember.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And Johnny and I really connected at that dinner. We were sitting either opposite each other or just catty-cornered from each other, and I left feeling a really intense connection to him. And I was like, "Well, yeah, sure. Everybody probably feels an intense connection with him because of who he is. I forget. It's ridiculous."

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And then a couple of days later, Amber had another dinner, some -- such a dinner at her house. And Johnny and I had another really good time and felt very connected and really laughed a lot, whatever, and at the end of the dinner, as I was standing to leave with my ex, Johnny came up to me and said, "I don't really know how to say this because it doesn't happen to me very often, but I think I love you.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And I felt strange because I felt the same way. And I said, "That's funny because I had that same experience after the last dinner party too." And then we joked about how crazy and ridiculous that felt. And we exchanged phone numbers, and then he -- he texted me wanting to talk about Amber a couple of times, and I felt that it was, like, kind of violating her privacy.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: So I said that I was happy to be friendly with him and happy to, I don't remember exactly what I said, but something to the effect of, like, you know, "I'm happy to be -- to give advice or to help you guys stay in concert with each other, but I don't want to violate anybody's privacy with the other one."

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And he -- I think he really respected that and really liked that because he also values his privacy greatly. And then, yeah, I was in LA for a couple more months, and I don't know, I think maybe we hung out more during that period. I'm not sure. I don't remember if they came to New York during the next stretch of time or what happened, but basically by the summer, I came back to LA to write and had a very bad breakup with that fiancee and was going through some things personally that Johnny, you know, he was like, "I recognize what's happening for you."

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: It was like particularly bad anxiety-related, trauma-related things. And he -- I didn't expect him to offer me any support around that stuff, but he was just like, "Wait. I see what you're going through. You know, this is my experience. I have the same thing, and let's talk about it and, like, if you need anything, I'm here."

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And I was like, "Thank you so much." You know, I didn't really expect that.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I went back to New York for -- to be with my family for a couple days or maybe a week or something, and it was very painful to be there. And he had said if it's painful to be there, just Let me know and come back and stay here. And so I did. And I came back, and I originally was going to stay at Amber's house because she kept her apartment for a number of years while they were together, even though she stayed at his house a lot, that she paid for, et cetera. And she was, you know, the person that I'd known longer, so I felt more comfortable being at her house. And then the consensus was that I should be closer to them. And so they said, "Oh, there's this house that's sitting empty at the end of the street."

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Just stay there. I was very hesitant because I didn't want to take advantage of him. And he was insistent, and he was very kind about it. And he said that he understood fully what having PTSD and anxiety can do and that he wanted to help. So I went and I stayed there. And then that was, I'm guessing, in August of 2013. And then in September, I think, Amber went to England to shoot a movie, so I was there, and Johnny and I would hang out on our own. And Johnny doesn't have a ton of friends because he can't, and I would go up and hang out with him. You know, we really enjoyed each other. We really liked each other, and so we would hang out, you know, on a daily basis, eat dinner or watch movies, and I'd hang out with his kids and got, you know, very like into a very sweet uncle-niece-nephew relationship with his kids, and they called me "Uncle iO.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, I did.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: What I meant by that was on a number of occasions, I saw, you know, Amber or he, I think, also, would ask me to come and help. He and I had more of a, like, mano a mano kind of relationship, and she and I had a -- I was kind of like the only person that would check either of them for a while. And so they would both ask me to do that with each other. So I saw him -- for example, I remember there was a time when it was very late at night. I was down the hill, and so I went up the hill and he was outside by the pool with a glass of what I understood to be whiskey.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And she was inside, crying and very upset in the kitchen, I think. And then I went outside and talked to him for a long time. Situations like that.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Or -- and he would say things. He said something to me that night that I thought, Jesus Christ, you know, things like, "She's gonna -- all she's got is her looks, and, you know, she has no talent" I and when her tits start to sag and her face gets wrinkly, nobody's going to be interested in her for anything. So she, you know, better, like, figure out another way to survive, and shit like that - sorry; pardon me - things like that.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And I also witnessed him, when Amber was in England, Marilyn Manson and Paul Bettany came over at one point, and there was a great deal of cocaine and alcohol involved that I witnessed them doing together. I don't specifically recall if Mr. Bettany did or did not partake in the cocaine or really much of anything except things that he said and his personality. But Mr. Manson and Mr. Depp partook in a lot of cocaine.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: We sat on the couch, and he told me a number of things. He told me about his childhood. He told me about growing up in Kentucky. He told me about growing up being very poor and how his mom was verbally and physically abusive. He told me that when he was very, very young, like 13 or something, he started drinking and taking drugs, I think, or at least drinking quite heavily. He was even kind of like, "Yeah. It's crazy; I know. But I've been doing it my whole life. I'm built like a tank." So that was kind of the nature of the conversation. And he told me that he had struggled with ever not drinking or ever not doing drugs, and he also told me he didn't particularly enjoy being sober but that, you know, people around him were very, very concerned. He was very, very concerned with his children.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And he would express shame or regret about times that he had been inebriated to the point of falling down or embarrassing himself, you know, urinating on himself, things like that, when his children were around and that he was very grateful to the people that had kind of shielded them and whisked them away. And he told me that in his relationships with previous women, his drug and alcohol use had been an issue but that he just didn't really like life sober and that it was too painful to be alive without imbibing or getting high.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And he also told me that he had experienced great bouts of jealousy in relationships that had also led to a lot of drinking and a lot of rage activities. He told me that that happened with Winona. He told me that that happened with Kate. And - sorry, Winona Ryder and Kate Moss. He told me that that had happened with Vanessa Paradis.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Over the course of those two years, Mr. Depp told me verbatim that he was addicted to Oxycontin, and I have a text message from him where he expresses that it's extraordinarily hard to kick and that it - I don't remember exactly the words that he uses, but he referred to it to me verbally many times as, like, the hardest thing that he's ever tried to kick, which he's tried to kick most things. He said it was harder than So he was very open and verbose about Oxycontin, having got addicted to Oxycontin.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Mr. Depp, as far as I can see, always had a cigarette or joint in his mouth at all times, to the point where I was confused about how he could function. He also showed me his marijuana closet that had, I don't know, tens and tens of pounds of weed in it.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: When I saw Mr. Depp drink, it was often hard liquor. I believe it was whiskey and gin and tequila, maybe. Could also be vodka. I don't know. He had a full bar in his -in 80, the house that they - with his recording studio in it I that they mostly stayed in. So I know whiskey for sure, and there was also red wine, a lot of red wine.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I don't know. The one occasion I know specifically was the one that I mentioned before, during the argument where he would suddenly have a glass of whiskey. And I remember it being, like, I remember clock -- because I grew up counting people's drinks, I remember clocking that it was a very large pour in the glass of whiskey.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Mr. Depp was very open with everyone that he was a heavy user. And he told me about -- I know there was one instance where he had this very large house, property, so if Sweetzer Avenue goes like this, the house that I was staying at, the 76, was down here. Then there's 78, which is right here, and then up here is 80. And then across the street, I guess, is 82. And 82 is a very large compound. So he and I were staying - I was at 76 or up at 80. And then 82, they lived in for a brief period of time.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And he told me about, like, vanishing into 82, into the, like, the property, because it was very lush and they had a lot of trees and went up quite far up the hill, and he told me about kind of like blacking out and going in there. On one instance, he told me - I know that he told me that in Australia he had blacked out, but he also told me that he fucked up. I don't - in terms of specific blackouts, there were a number - I think he said they were on the plane. He said that he didn't remember what had happened.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Mr. Depp expressed to me that he wanted to get sober for Amber, that he didn't enjoy being sober, that it wasn't fun and that it was distressing and exhausting and very hard to do. He really, really, resented having to be sober. Yeah. He didn't want to be.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: He expressed a number of times that he felt like she was his leash and she was holding him back from doing what he wanted to do in terms of substances and alcohol. Oh, I just wanted to go back to another incident that I remember. He told me he blacked out and was on the island; he went to the Bahamas. There were two different instances. One was, I guess, like they had only recently met, and he told me that he passed out face-down in the sand while his kids were there and that the staff had, like, whisked his kids away so that they didn't see it.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And the language that ended up being kind of settled on was that there was a side of him that was the monster and that it was not who he was, but it was something that lived within him that he had to battle. And the language that he used was of battle, battling - battling the demon, battling the monster so that the monster - you know, he would say things like, "The monster will not win. I will not be that type of man," you know. "I don't want to - I don't want to be that type of man or husband.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I don't want to hurt" - he would call her Slim, "our Slim, our girl," referring to all of her friends and him and her and I, yeah.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Mr. Depp would drink and/or take drugs. He would get very mean, very surly, very paranoid, extremely paranoid. He would weave these elaborate situations in which Amber was having affairs with every man she ever worked with and every woman she ever came in contact with. He became very demeaning. Johnny is incredibly intelligent, incredibly smart and witty, and he would point his jokes at people -- Amber's appearance, her talent, her lack of talent as he perceived it, why he thought that she was actually famous which he always implied was just because of her looks and because he thought that everyone wanted to have sex with her. And he would insult his fans.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: He called them -- I remember he called them remoras which is a type of sucker fish that attaches itself to the hull of the ship, puts a hole in it, and then sinks it.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: He would rail against his mother and his sister -- sisters. Pretty much, you know, anyone that he felt had crossed him or could cross him, he became very nasty about.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Mr. Depp told me that his mom was viciously cruel to him during his upbringing and that she was also viciously, like, violent with him and with his siblings and with his father. He referred to her -- pardon my language -- as a bitch and a cunt a lot. And he seemed to kind of compare them in the sense that he was -- he said at one point, something to the effect of -- it's right here, actually. Yeah. I already had a mum who was a bitch to me. I don't need another one in my life. There was a fair bit of that kind of like "My mom's been awful enough to me already.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I don't need another woman who's going to also be awful to me.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: We had a lot of discussions about his fights with Amber.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: In the very beginning, he expressed that she made him feel crazy, that he was so in love that it made him feel crazy. The very first time that I mentioned, September of 2013, when he and I were alone together a lot, he expressed that he thought she was cheating on him and sleeping with her costars in England on the films. And I said to him - or on the film And I said to him, "Listen, you know, I know her, I think, pretty well, and I talk to her a lot and I think - I think if she was having an affair, I would be one of the very few people that she would tell about it. And I don't hold secrets or lies for anybody, and I would tell you if that was happening so you could make your own decisions.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: "But as far as I know, that's really not the case, and I think that she's really in love with you. And I think that she also is worried that you are having affairs because both of you are used to being sex symbols on Earth, and both of you need to just accept the fact that you're really in love with each other, lean in and be together and love each other."

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And he told me that sometimes his jealousy would make him feel crazy and outside himself and that he had to get it under control and that it would cause them to fight, to be specific in regard to your question.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: He told me about the fight that they had the time that I went up there - are you asking for specifics instances? Or are you asking about the nature of their fights?

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: So to continue with what I was saying before, he told me about the fight in the middle of the night when I was living on the hill on Sweetzer is what - I mentioned that I saw him with the heavy pour of the whiskey. I went outside to the pool and spoke to him, and he told me about the argument that they had had and that she gets mean during fights and that it really hurts his feelings and that he, then, lashes out at her. And then, you know, she called him old, and he, then, calls her soon-to-be ugly and talentless, and then they get really ugly with each other. He told me about a fight that they had - we went to England that September. It was Whitney's birthday, I think, Amber's sister, Whitney, and Amber was stuck working. My birthday, Raquel's birthday, and Whitney's birthday, the three people that she's closest to, all have our birthdays in September. And Raquel's is just before the end of August. Whatever. We're all Virgos.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And she couldn't be with any of us on our birthday, so we all went to England to surprise her. And during that trip, Johnny proposed to her, and they, then, I'm pretty sure, that night after the proposal, got in a huge fight which they both told me about separately. And he said, "I'm pretty sure that she trashed the hotel room"

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Let's see. I spoke to him after - I went and talked to him after their fight on the plane.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: That's correct.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: That's correct.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And I went upstairs to his bedroom, which was, like, blacked out, and I woke him up. I remember shaking his shoulder and saying to him, "Hey, buddy, wake up," which was not something that a lot of people did to Johnny, wake him from his slumber. And he woke up and we had a conversation about what happened on the plane, and he didn't remember being on the plane. He didn't really remember getting off the plane. He didn't really remember much detail of anything. And he swore up and down that he was going to stop and he was going to stop drinking and taking drugs, and he was going to never do it again. That was that incident.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I understand because we didn't go to many meetings. We -- I took Amber with me to Al-Anon, which is like a sister program to AA for the family and friends and loved ones of addicts and alcoholics, which I regularly attended. So she came with me to a number of Al-Anon meetings. She also had, I think, one or two phone calls with my dad's wife about how she dealt with helping him get off of his drugs and drink less. And she read a number of books about it. She was watching documentaries about it.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: She was listening to any radio shows she could get on, like, anything, anything she could get her hands on that would give her some tools for how to deal with this, she consumed in that period.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: We went to New York, and I remember we were staying at the Ace hotel in Midtown and Johnny started reaching out to me. He went, and when she went back to Boston to start filming again, would have been in like the next day or two because we weren't there for that long. And he reached out to me and basically said something to the effect of like, you know, "I have to fix this. I will do anything that I can."

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And then, while he was in Boston, he let me know, and I think he was trying to reach Amber too but she wasn't ready to talk to him. He let me know that he had engaged Dr. Kipper and that he intended with every fiber in his being to get sober and that- the nature of the conversation, at that point, was that he was going to beat this thing, you know.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: After they were -- because they were married in February, and they were in Australia in the spring.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: You know, I don't actually know whether Johnny was -- I don't think Johnny was drinking on the day of their wedding. I really don't, actually, think he was. Let me rephrase that. Before the ceremony on the day of their wedding. Because I was going back and forth between their respective, like, private preparation quarters where they were getting ready because I was technically her best man, and his son, Jack, was his best man, but I wasn't one of the girls and felt more comfortable over there with them. But I was helping all the girls, so I was running back and forth on the golf carts.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Between, I was also taking pictures. I was one or two people who was friends with them that had worked as a photographer, so I volunteered to take pictures. So I was very intimate with Johnny and Jack leading up to the wedding, and he wasn't drinking, I don't think. I don't remember seeing him drink at all.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: As we were walking back from the ceremony, we were coming into cafe Los Capones, which is where the party was happening, and I was walking with Johnny and congratulating him that they pulled it off and that they did it, you know, and he said, "We're married now. I can punch her in the face, and nobody can do anything about it.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: That's correct.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I do, yeah. Myself and Ms. Heard. I do, yeah.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I see a number of long, thin, cuts.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Very similar.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I would have no way of knowing if they're the same or different ones, but they're similarly long, skinny cuts, like the ones that I saw after she was back from Australia.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: That's my old phone number, yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, it does.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yeah.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, I do.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I see Amber Heard, and I see an injury to Amber's scalp.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I remember this being one of the injuries that I was shown when I arrived at penthouse 3 at the eastern building on December 16th, 2015.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I remember this being one of, I think, maybe two scalp injuries that I remember. I remember there was another one as well, but I could be mistaken. I believe there was another one on a different part of her head as well.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, I do

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: This was a picture of Amber's scalp.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, it does.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, I do.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: This is Amber Heard's face with a very swollen lip.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes,! do.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: This is the clump of hair that I was shown, I believe, when I arrived at penthouse 3 on the night of December 16th, 2015.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, it does.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Can we take those pictures down while we talk?

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, I do recall. There was a plan for Johnny and Amber and Lily-Rose and Jack and Raquel and her boyfriend, I think, at the time, Josh, to go to the Bahamas -- oh, and Raquel's mom and Amber's parents to go to the Bahamas and spend Christmas on the island together, yeah.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I don't think that he and I -- I don't know that he and I had a direct conversation about it. I'm not sure if he and I had a direct conversation.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, I do. It's a text exchange between me and Amber Heard about a video that she sent me.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: That's correct.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yeah. Yeah. Johnny called me at 5 in the morning and left me a voicemail in the character of some kind of management, of, like, a property manager, and he said something about "Yes, hello. This is management," and I don't remember what he said, but it was something to do with, like, "We have a situation that we need to change out of something," and it was just a lengthy, just, off-the-wall, nut-bag ramble in the character of management

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, I do. I recall watching that video at the time that I received those text messages.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Sure I was in New York I was there visiting family I was in Greenpoint Brooklyn I was walking down Manhattan Avenue and I got believe a text message from Amber that said something to the effect of like Can you talk And so I called and I was walking down the street as this happened.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: She put me on speakerphone, so I was talking to both of them. He had just stopped by to pick up some of his stuff, and he has a theory that he - either he wants to ask you about or I said, "Okay. Sure. Hello, Johnny," like, all right.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And he - I think it was he said or she said, "Johnny thinks that you and I together defecated on his pillow." I think the words were - used were - "shit on his pillow."

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: So I started laughing. And I just, I - I was laughing. She was laughing, and when I realized that he was serious, I was like, "Okay. Look, you know, first of all, I wasn't there that day." And so he got very agitated by the fact that she and I thought it was funny. And he started to get more and more agitated, and I could hear him walk away from the phone.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: He came clomping back down the stairs.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I heard, like, a noise, and then the phone dropped, and he said to her, "Oh, you think I hit you? You think I fucking hit you? What if I peel your fucking hair back?" And then I heard the phone drop again, and then I heard her scream. I remember her screaming. And I hung up the phone, and I called Raquel immediately because I know that she lives one door away and her and her boyfriend, Josh, who is a big dude, would be able to get there the fastest. And I called or texted her right away, and I hung up with her and immediately called 911 in New York.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And then I called a friend of mine in LA who I knew had met Amber a number of times, and I think I may have placed a second call to NYPD. Now I'm frazzled and I don't remember, but I think I called NYPD.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Amber retreated Amber became Is isolated, embattled, extraordinarily distressed

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I think that my previous statement 1:: ! encompassed that.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Nothing ever at any point.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes, I do.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I was a witness to some verbal arguments.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I would categorize it very differently, sir.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: No, I never saw either of them physically assault the other one.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: As I've already explained to you probably eight times, I've never seen Mr. Depp become physically violent with Ms. Heard. So if that's what you're asking me, if he smoked a cigarette and that made him violent, I think you know that that's ridiculous and the answer is, again, no.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: If you want my honest answer, my honest answer is that Mr. Depp mixed substances constantly, and I keep trying to tell you that. He mixed all kind of things together when he got crazy and violent. So - and upset and paranoid. So - and I never knew what he had taken.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I saw Mr. Depp throw glasses and I O dishware on at least two occasions, which I would characterize as physically violent And do I know if he smoked marijuana or cigarettes before that? I don't know.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Sometime during the time that I was living in Sweetzer.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: And once at the eastern building.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I couldn't tell you but seeing as Mr. Depp always was smoking cigarettes and marijuana my assumption would be yes

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Yes.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: Well, if you want to get technical, my understanding was that their fight happened very late at night, which was technically the morning of the 16th. And I arrived at her house around midnight, the night of the 16th. So, technically, it's not more than a day after; it's in the same 24-hour period. So technically, the answer to your question is no.

IO TILLETT WRIGHT: I have no idea what time their fight started or ended, so I don't know if it was 20 hours or 16 hours or 13 hours. But my understanding, again, is that they had gotten into a fight sometime in the morning of the 16th/late at night on the 15th. I don't know at what point during which - during that fight in which the clump of hair was ripped out of her head, but it happened sometime then and there. So, yeah, sure my understanding was that that clump of hair had not been moved since it was ripped out of her head.