Melanie Inglessis — Direct/Cross/Redirect
355 linesTHE COURT: All right. Your next witness.
MS. BREDEHOFT: The next witness, Your Honor, is Melanie Inglessis, and that is also by , g , y video, and I will say that that begins with Ms. Vasquez questioning fast and then--
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Then I come back.
THE COURT: Can you spell that last name, just for the court reporter?
MS. BREDEHOFT: It's I-N-G-L-E-S-S-I-S.
THE COURT: Thank you.
MS. BREDEHOFT: MELANIE INGLESSIS, O being fast duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:
MS. BREDEHOFT: Please state your name and address for the record.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Melanie Inglessis.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Inglessis, what is your occupation?
MS. BREDEHOFT: It's me fast.
THE COURT: Thank you.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Makeup artist.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And you, in fact, are a professional makeup artist, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: When did you first meet Amber Heard?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: April 2015.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And what was the occasion?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Tribeca Film Festival in New York.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And were you providing makeup services for her on that occasion?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And did you become friends with Amber Heard after that?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I did.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Inglessis, I'm going to show you what's been marked as Exhibit Number 7.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize what's depicted in this photograph?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes. I recall seeing this on the kitchen of the penthouse. When you enter, that's the wall, kitchen to the left, and that was there, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: But when you came to the penthouse after Amber had texted you, whether it was that night or the next day, you saw this in the kitchen; is that correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Lack of foundation. I:
MS. BREDEHOFT: So you do recall being there that evening?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I do recall being there. You know, my only concern with this is that was it the day before or during another incident. But it says, in my text, that I was there the night before that. I was there the night before.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Inglessis, I'm going to ask you to look at what has been marked as Deposition Exhibit Number 9.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize what is depicted in I this photo?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Well, it's a bed. It looks like, I mean, it's a very tight picture of the bed. But I'm- I mean, it's a bed.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you recall seeing this the night of December 15, the broken part of the bed?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Upstairs, yes. ,22
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And when you say upstairs, what do you mean?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Well, their bedroom was upstairs.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And the downstairs had the kitchen with the writing.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you remember where the other property that you saw was? Was that downstairs or upstairs, the property that was damaged; was that upstairs or downstairs?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Downstairs.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And just so I am clear, you recall damage to the bed; is that correct?
MS. VASQUEZ: Asked and answered.
MS. BREDEHOFT: On December 16, 2015, did you return to Amber Heard's penthouse?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And why did you come to Amber Heard's penthouse on December 16, 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: It was for the show. She had an appearance, so I went back to work.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And when you arrived at the penthouse on December 16, please, describe for me what you observed on Amber Heard's face and any injuries.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: When I came to the penthouse, December 16, to do Amber's makeup, she had injuries -- she had two light, like -- I don't know how -- I mean, I'm not a medical expert. I don't know how I would describe them. But it could have looked like somebody had headbutted her lightly, so she had discoloration here, on both eyes, and the bridge of the nose, and she had what I would call a split lip, or something on the lip, like a gash or a split lip.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Inglessis, I'm going to ask you to look at what's been marked as Exhibit Number 11.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize this photo as being Amber Beard's head?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And could you, please, describe for me what this photo is showing?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: It's showing a chunk of hair.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And what, if anything, did you observe, on December 16th, about Amber Heard missing a chunk of hair?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I remember this because she showed it to us, and I looked at the head.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And can you describe what is depicted right along her scalp there?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall that there was some bruising along the scalp and some pus, for lack of a better word?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't recall.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Inglessis, I'm going to ask you to take a look at what has been marked as Exhibit Number 14. Do you recognize the person in this photo?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And who is that?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: This is Amber Heard.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And you just described what you saw on the 16th with respect to Amber Heard's injuries. Does this accurately depict what you saw on Amber Heard on December 16, 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Inglessis, I'm going to ask you to take a look at what has been marked as Exhibit 16. I 1 Again, do you recognize the person in this photo?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And who is that?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Amber Heard. j 8
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And does this picture reflect the injuries that you saw on Amber Heard on December 16th, 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And then I'm going to ask you to take a look at one more of those, and that is Exhibit 17. And I'm going to ask, again, Ms. Inglessis, do you recognize the person in this picture -- I'm going to try to move it along, is it Amber Heard?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And does this reflect what you saw, as well, on December 16, 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I mean, that's three different - three pictures with very different light, but, yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, do you also recall there being an injury to Amber Heard's lip?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And, Ms. Inglessis, I'm going to ask you to take a look at Exhibit Number 19.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you recognize the person in this photograph as Amber Heard?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And does this picture accurately reflect what you saw on Amber Heard on December 16, 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Inglessis, could you, please, describe what you did by way of makeup to prepare Amber Heard for the James Corden show on December 16, 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes. We covered - you know, I just did the makeup, but just a little heavier the way I did it So we covered the, you know, discoloration or the bruises with a little slightly heavier concealer, one that has a little more peach undertone, which I normally don't use on Amber, but peach does cancel blue. So I did that on the eye. Although Amber has a red lip, it's one of her signature looks, I remember clearly talking that we have no other option that night than to use a red blood, like a really red lipstick to, you know, make sure we could cover up the injuries on the lip.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And were you able to cover all of the injuries with the makeup that you applied and as you've just described?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Inglessis, if you could, look at what has been marked as Exhibit Number 22.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recognize Amber Heard in that picture?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And is this a picture of her -- is this picture of her that evening, December 16, 2015, on the James Corden show?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if anything, did you observe on the difference in Amber Beard's demeanor before the show and then on the show?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: That she had the ability to, you know, turn it on. That she had the ability to do her job and perform how she was supposed to perform on the show.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And prior to Amber going on the show, s and while you were working with her on her makeup, how would you describe Amber's mood and demeanor?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Angry, sad, a little erratic. I think two ways of emotions, you know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you recall someone named McMillan having any role in helping to prepare Amber Heard for that James Carden show that night, December 16?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes. I 7
MS. BREDEHOFT: What do you recall?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Samantha was a stylist. Sam was there the day of the James Corden show, as she was already there to get her ready for an appearance or show.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did Samantha work on Amber before or I after you were applying the makeup?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't know if she worked on Amber.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: But when I entered the penthouse 5, Samantha was there with Amber, so Samantha was there before I entered the house, the penthouse. I 6
MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you recall whether Samantha was hugging Amber when you came in?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I recall opening the penthouse - so, there's two penthouses. There's the penthouse where she gets ready, so Amber was in the penthouse where Samantha gets ready, where the clothes is. If I remember properly, that's the penthouse that I entered first to say hi before I go set up in the other penthouse. My recollection is when I got to her, Amber was crying, looked pretty upset on Samantha's shoulder. They were like, you know, I don't know if hugging is the right way, but definitely had a moment where they were together and Amber looked really upset.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Ms. Inglessis, I'm going to ask just a couple more questions about the makeup that you applied on Amber on December 16, 2015, for the James Corden show.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I think you said that you had applied some concealer and that you had some peach undertones with it to cancel out some blue.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Did I hear that correctly?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I was asking about -- I wrote down that you said you had applied, on Amber, concealer, you had some peach undertones to cancel blue; is that what you said?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. BREDEHOFT: So what type of concealer did you apply to Amber and if you used different color tones, can you, please, describe why you used the color tones you did?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I used a different kind of concealer that I wouldn't normally use on Amber. I used a concealer that has peach undertones. Peach undertone concealer are more effective to cover any darkness of blue undertone than a normal concealer.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you know what type of makeup Amber Heard typically wore?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Vague and ambiguous.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Please describe.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes, she's pretty natural. She has a concealer from a company -- or used to have a concealer from a company called Cle de Peau. Her makeup would be pretty simple, concealer and a little Benefit tint that she used on her lips and she used on her cheeks. Very natural.
MS. BREDEHOFT: It had a natural look to it, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. But there was -- she did wear concealer and what you described, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Do you mean in her daily life or that night?
MS. BREDEHOFT: In her daily life.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes. She used -- she has a concealer that she use all the time, and she has a couple of products that she uses all the time, daily, yes -- well, I mean daily, yes. As far as I know.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And do you feel confident in what you described that you saw that day of Amber Heard's injury, and I'm talking about December 16, 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Thousand percent. Without a doubt. I just don't remember, you know, it's five years ago. I don't remember the exact date.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And could you describe Amber's demeanor in that -- in those days before and after the filing for divorce and for the domestic violence I restraining order?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: An area of different type of emotion. You know, from - definitely from sadness to not wanting the divorce to divorce to anger to rage - to being really upset, to being really sad. It was just a roller coaster of emotion that I think we were all there, those couple of days, to navigate and go through it
MS. BREDEHOFT: I take it, from your response today, you still feel very emotional about this? It's very difficult for you, isn't it?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Not difficult for me, no. Now, no. But it just reminded me, at the time, how I felt, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: When did you first tell Ms. Heard that you were no longer interested in having her as a I client and being friends with her?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: That come a month ago. About a month.
MS. VASQUEZ: How was it said?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Well, I just told Amber that, you know, I wish her well, I just had no interest in continuing a relationship, whether it is workwise or friendship-wise.
MS. VASQUEZ: Is there a specific reason, other than the birth of your child and the postpartum issues, ! that you described?
MS. VASQUEZ: Both as a client and -- Ms. Inglessis, what was your impression of Mr. Depp when you ! 21 first met him?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Lovely.
MS. VASQUEZ: You thought he was lovely?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yeah.
MS. VASQUEZ: Was each of the -- well, let me ask the backup question.
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you interact with Mr. Depp -- how many times did you interact with Mr. Depp?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Through, you mean, all in all?
MS. VASQUEZ: Yes. The entirety of your interactions. How many were there, approximately?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Five, maybe - maybe less than ten.
MS. VASQUEZ: And would you describe all your interactions with Mr. Depp as "lovely"?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Had you ever seen Mr. Depp act in a violent manner?
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you ever see Mr. Depp yell at Ms. Heard?
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you ever see him kick Ms. Heard?
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you ever see Mr. Depp throw an I object at Ms. Heard?
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you ever see Mr. Depp slap Ms. Heard?
MS. VASQUEZ: Punch her?
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you ever see Mr. Depp kick Ms. Heard?
MS. VASQUEZ: Is it fair to say, Ms. Inglessis, that you never saw Mr. Depp be physically abusive towards Ms. Heard?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: And you never saw Mr. Depp cause any injuries to Ms. Heard, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Did I ever saw him cause any injuries? No.
MS. VASQUEZ: And so any injuries that you claim to have seen on Ms. Heard, you don't know, one way or another, how they were caused, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct. The only source of information that you
MS. VASQUEZ: Have is Ms. Heard's own words, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you hear Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard Is having a fight on the phone?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I was there. I was present in the room
MS. VASQUEZ: And but just to confirm, could you hear Mr. Depp's voice?
MS. VASQUEZ: So fair to say that the only voice you ! 12 heard was with -- was Ms. Heard's, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: So you don't know what Mr. Depp said to Ms. Heard on that phone call, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall any other occasions where you witnessed a fight between Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard, or heard about an incident or a fight between Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard, other than the three that we've now discussed?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I would say every time. I would say that during my friendship with Amber, before she filed for divorce, which, I mean, timeline, I don't know, a year, maybe a year and a half, it was all - it was always some conflict, some fight, some - some physical fights, some verbal fights. Some kind of problem Some kind - there always, always was a problem A problematic - it was very consuming for me. It was all consuming about that relationship. It was a very consuming friendship. And hence, that's why I decided to not continue it.
MS. VASQUEZ: But you, yourself, didn't witness any of these altercations, fights, arguments, correct, between Mr. Depp?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Right.
MS. VASQUEZ: I think you testified that you ! 17 interacted with Mr. Depp less than ten times. I When you did interact with Mr. Depp, I was Ms. Heard present each of those times?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: AU of those times.
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you find him particularly loving towards Ms. Heard?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Not particularly, no.
MS. VASQUEZ: And during these interactions with Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard, at that time, you were aware that Mr. Depp, allegedly, was abusing Ms. Heard, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Well, most of the interactions that I had was towards the end of 2015, right, I'm assuming. So I was not fully aware, yet, of, I guess, the seriousness of their fight. If I can say so.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I think, you know, most of the time I saw them together was towards the end of December -- towards the end -- before December 15. So Thanksgiving, that time, and Amber's, I think birthday. I'm getting the dates. So the few times I saw Mr. Depp was before I understood the seriousness of the fight.
MS. VASQUEZ: Understanding, again, came from Ms. Heard only, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Well, Ms. Heard and some of her friends, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Who were some of her friends?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Rocky, Rocky Pennington, iO Tillett. I'm not sure how you pronounce it. Josh Drew, the people that were living, her sister, Whitney. Those were the core group.
MS. VASQUEZ: You said you spent Thanksgiving with Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard. Was that in Thanksgiving, November 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes, correct. Because they were divorced by May 2016, so, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: How would you describe that evening?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Awkward.
MS. VASQUEZ: Why?
MS. VASQUEZ: Because Marilyn Manson was there. Did you know Marilyn Manson?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: No, but it just was an awkward Thanksgiving. It was quite intimate. So, yeah, it was just awkward, it was awkward. He's just an awkward being and awkward to be around. It was an awkward evening.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard having any type of disagreement or fight that evening?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Disagreement, maybe. Yeah, like a disagreement.
MS. VASQUEZ: What do you mean by that?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Well, I mean, there was, you know, it was such a small, intimate surrounding that you pick up on things. And so, I could tell that it was awkward -- it was just awkward, I think, Mr. Depp and Mr. Manson disappeared for a while and everybody was at a table so there was nothing -- it was just awkward.
MS. VASQUEZ: And you're pretty sure they had a fight because Ms. Heard told you, after the fact, that they had a fight, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Right.
MS. VASQUEZ: Because you did not witness Mr. Depp or Ms. Heard having any type of fight the evening of Thanksgiving, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Inglessis, do you have an independent recollection of going to the penthouse, in downtown Los Angeles, on December 15th, 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I have an independent- I have an independent recollection of going to the penthouse before one of the incidents. And at the time, I wasn't- I couldn't recall if it was the day before the gym scooter or the day before the phone incident, you know, so - and I want to make sure. I needed to remember that it was the day before December 16th. Where -yes.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Does that make sense? I knew I had come a day before - a day before one of the two different fights that, you know, and I wasn't sure if it was that day or that day. But it was December 15th.
MS. VASQUEZ: And sitting here today, you're still not sure if you went to the penthouse on December 15th, 2015, or if it was the day before the May incident in 2016?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Right.
MS. VASQUEZ: And when you went to the penthouse on December 15, I believe that you testified before you didn't see any injuries on Amber Heard that evening, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: No, I don't recall seeing any injuries on Amber that day, that night.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall if Ms. Pennington was at the penthouse that evening?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall if anybody else was at the penthouse that evening?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't recall.
MS. VASQUEZ: But you do remember Ms. Heard being there and Ms. Pennington, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you take any photographs of Ms. Heard the evening of December 15th, 2016?
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall being present when any photographs of Ms. Heard were taken on December 15th, 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't recall.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you remember being present when photographs of Ms. Heard's injuries were taken on December 16th, 2015?
MS. VASQUEZ: And did you take any pictures of Ms. Heard and her injuries on December 16th, 2015?
MS. VASQUEZ: So I don't want to take up the time of showing you all the photographs Ms. Heard -- excuse me, Ms. Bredehoft showed you earlier today. But there were a number of exhibits, I think, I marked them as -- exhibits 14 through 20.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Right.
MS. VASQUEZ: That you were shown earlier this morning.
MS. VASQUEZ: Just to confirm, you didn't take any of those photographs, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Not on my phone. Not with my phone. And I do not recall taking Amber's or Rocky's phone to take those pictures, no. Definitely not with my phone. I do not recall taking, physically myself, those pictures, no. I don't recall.
MS. VASQUEZ: Would it be normal for Ms. Heard to have makeup on her face before you arrived to do her makeup ahead of an appearance?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: It would be normal for Amber to have I concealer on, a little of that tint there because, yes, it is quite normal for Amber to wash her face. She always liked to wash her face before the makeup with the product that she likes, do a toner, you know, so it wouldn't be abnormal for her to have a little makeup before and then wash ! her face and start clean.
MS. VASQUEZ: But you don't remember, one way or another, whether Ms. Heard had a fresh face with toner and moisturizer before when you arrived on December 16th, 2015, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: No, I do not. I don't recall.
MS. VASQUEZ: Would she usually wash her face and go through that process in front of you?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes. I mean, in front of me, in her bathroom. But, you know, we were close, so it wouldn't be abnormal for me to be chitchatting with her while she cleaned her face and, you know, I don't think, specifically, in front of me or not in front of me, but, yeah. I mean, she would wash her face in the bathroom, which is adjacent to where we get her ready.
MS. VASQUEZ: And I want to be really specific. So based on your best recollection, what injuries did you see on Ms. Heard on December 16th, 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Amber had a slight discoloration on both eyes and on the top of the bridge of her nose and - hold on. And I do believe the right eye had a little gash right there. It wasn't that strong - it wasn't that swollen, but it was definitely some blue and yellow discoloration there, mainly on the inner corner and a little more here. And then she had, on the right, on the right lip, as I said earlier, I don't know the exact medical term, but looked like a split lip or, like, a gash here.
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you ever see Ms. Heard's lip bleed on December 15th or December 16th?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't remember.
MS. VASQUEZ: But you have a -- you remember that it was not bleeding on December 16th, when you were applying the makeup, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: When I was applying the makeup, correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: How about before you were applying the makeup; do you recall it bleeding?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't recall.
MS. VASQUEZ: And I think you just described it as either a gash or a split lip?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't know what really the medical term for it I don't know what kind of injury would have caused this. I'm not a medical expert or a forensic expert. It was slightly swollen, and, by the way, you can see in that video, so it's crazy to me, it was slightly swollen, and it was either a gash or a scab - not a scab, but it was swollen with some kind of cut.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall Ms. Heard ever having a cold sore on her lips?
MS. VASQUEZ: You said there was slight discoloration under both eyes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Was there swelling under both eyes as well?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Clarify "swelling."
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Maybe very little, but it was mainly discoloration, too. I recall many discoloration like - like a bruise. Maybe there was a little, tiny swelling on one of the eye, that was a little more - a little more injured than the other, but not too swelling, no.
MS. VASQUEZ: I believe your testimony earlier today was that he lightly headbutted her; is that correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I wasn't there. I don't know if he lightly or no lightly. I don't know.
MS. VASQUEZ: That was your testimony, that it appeared as if she had been "lightly headbutted."
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you remember saying that earlier today?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: It's not my opinion to say how headbutted she was or anything. Maybe I misquoted.
MS. VASQUEZ: Okay. And did she show you the hair that was missing?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: She showed us, me and the hairdresser, the hole where the hair was missing on top of the
MS. VASQUEZ: And was Ms. McMillan there as well?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: No. Samantha McMillan was never really there when we get ready. So it was two separate things, and Samantha never come when we get ready, no.
MS. VASQUEZ: Just to confirm, these injuries that you saw, right, on Ms. Heard, December 16th, 2015, you don't know how they were caused, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: And so any information you have about the cause of these injuries came from Ms. Heard only?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: From December 16, correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: Well, any injuries, other than Ms. Heard and her friends, you never witnessed Mr. Depp being violent or abusive towards Ms. Heard and causing any injuries?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: So let's talk about the makeup that you actually used to conceal these injuries on her face on December 16th.
MS. VASQUEZ: 112 concealer with a peach undertone?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Uh-huh. I believe you testified you used a
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you have training and experience dealing with injuries or covering up bruising on people? Do you have any specific experience or education?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Specific experience? I have experience in doing bruises and cover bruises for special effect. I mean, throughout my career, I have created bruises and I also have covered bruises for, you know, with models or real life or whatever it is. So, yeah, I have experience in covering some bruises, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: How about swelling? Same question. ,16
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I mean, it's a little harder to cover swelling. That would be maybe, you know, try to bring the swelling down. Covering it up would be not-would be harder.
MS. VASQUEZ: How about cuts?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yeah.
MS. VASQUEZ: Specifically, as it relates to Ms. Heard's makeup look on December 16th, do you recall what foundation you used?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: The brand?
MS. VASQUEZ: You probably don't remember the brand.
MS. VASQUEZ: But do you recall the shade that you used?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: How would I? No, it's five years ago. Absolutely not.
MS. VASQUEZ: But you do have a specific recollection of using a peach undertone concealer?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes, and I'll tell you why. Because Amber always had, in her bag -- we have the same concealer. She has a concealer from a brand called Cle de Peau. And a specific shade, you know it's beige. Beige was Amber Heard's color for under her eyes, period. So the day, December 16th, I didn't use beige, I used -- there was another concealer that has more peach in there and orange, it's called honey, from the same family, I used that instead. I think I also used -- I have a wheel that has -- it is a bruise wheel that has different colors, and you pick out the color to gently touch up any darkness.
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you make a different choice for her overall look, other than the concealer, as a result of the injuries that you saw on her face on December 16th?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Not a different choice. But I remember we specifically, you know, as I know you read it before, we had a red lip that was not uncommon for her. You know, she has natural red lips, so it's not, to me, oh, my gosh, she had a red lip. But I remember that day, specifically -- I specifically structured my makeup -- there's a couple of things we do with Amber. We do a smokey eye and a nude lip or red lip. And I remember specifically thinking of my makeup, about we needed to highlight there to try to not -- to try to not draw attention there.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I of highlight up here to kind of not focus on this. I remember talking about it very clearly.
MS. VASQUEZ: And forgive my ignorance, but what did you do to cover up the cut on the lip, other than apply a red lip?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Red lip. That's it. A red lip. It is swollen. I can see it in the video on the James Corden show. So her lip was swollen. It was big on that side. You can see it. Nothing I can do about that. But we did a really dark red lip to match that red gash or cut, whatever that was there.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall Ms. Heard being hindered as a result of the injury on her lip. And when I say "hindered," I mean did she have trouble opening her mouth widely or, you know, did she complain about it hurting or splitting open and bleeding? Do you recall any of that?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't recall.
MS. VASQUEZ: And, again, just to confirm, on December 15th, 2015, you don't recall seeing any injuries, including a split lip, on Amber Heard, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall having any specific conversation with the hairstylist that was doing Ms. Heard's hair on December 16th, 2015, as it related to the abuse that Ms. Heard was describing for you?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yeah. Yes. We had-we talked a little about it, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: What do you recall about that conversation?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I mean, you know, I think everybody was a little, like, whoa, shit, okay. I think everybody was a little surprised. Everybody was a little, like, not knowing how to move forward with it. I mean, but we talked. As I said, when Amber was in the chair and Adir was behind her, and I was in front of her, I recall the three of us having a conversation. I recall Adir showing me the hole.
MS. VASQUEZ: Just to confirm, you don't know how that chunk of hair was missing from Ms. Beard's hair? You don't know what caused that chuck of hair to be missing, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't know, correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: You don't have any personal knowledge, I should say, as to how that chunk of hair came to be missing from her head?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Well, I did not witness it, correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: Alex, may I, please, have IO you bring up Depp 9.
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Inglessis, you testified, previously, that you see, watching the video clip, right, you see Ms. Beard's -- you see the swollen lip and you see bruising?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yeah. I see - I know that face, I know that face so well. I've done it so many times. I can tell where the bruises are, and I can tell where the swelling is, correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: So, Ms. Inglessis, do you mind, please, identifying for me, is this -- does this photograph accurately depict Ms. Heard on the James Carden show on December 16th, 2015?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Can you describe for me where you see bruising on Ms. Beard's face?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Well, I didn't say I saw a bruise, but I saw discoloration. I can see my makeup, so I see discoloration on the right eye, just right under, I see that little dent there. And then, also, this is a picture that is, you know, taking - this is not a very accurate picture. She's sideways, the light is one way. You know, but, yeah, they need better pictures, as you can see.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: But if you give me the mouse, I will show you. But this other still pictures, where you can see the split better, or the swelling. So, I mean, I can see there's better pictures where you can see that side of her lip is swollen, this here.
MS. VASQUEZ: And you're pointing, just for the record, you're pointing to the right side of Ms. Beard's lip, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct. It's here. But there's I better pictures. She's sideways. There's better picture. What I feel you can see better.
MS. VASQUEZ: That might be the same photograph.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yeah, she's still sideways.
MS. VASQUEZ: Ms. Inglessis, is it your testimony that you believe you can see swelling on the right side of Ms. Beard's lip?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you see any bruising or concealed ! bruising under her eyes?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Well, I mean, I know I concealed those bruises so, yes, I can see them because I know I did them So that's neither here nor there, but, yeah, I can see them just on her eyes, under the right eyes, I can see the little gash right there, and all that darkness, I don't have the mouse anymore, but all that darkness right there, that is not eyeshadow and that is neither dark circles on those three pages. This is a little of the, you know, injury showing through.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you see any discoloration or bruising on the bridge of her nose?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I do not No, I must have done a great job there.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall anything about Ms. Beard's appearance when you first encountered her in Coachella Valley?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: No, I don't recall.
MS. VASQUEZ: Did you notice any injuries on Ms. Heard?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't recall.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall Ms. Heard discussing any abuse that she had sustained the night of her birthday on April 21st, 2016, by Mr. Depp?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: What do you recall about that?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I recall there was a fight. There I was - I don't remember. I don't exactly recall the fight I know they would fight and there was some problem That's why they were late coming back to Coachella. I don't recall exactly what she told me, but there was some problem the night before, yes.
MS. VASQUEZ: But you don't remember seeing any injuries on Ms. Heard after her birthday dinner in April of 2016, connect?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall seeing any injuries on Ms. Heard's face at that dinner, on May 24th [sic], 2016?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I don't recall.
MS. VASQUEZ: Do you recall Ms. Heard's general demeanor at the dinner on May 24th [sic], 2016.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: What I remember about that dinner is as she was - and I'll tell you why I remember this clearly, because she was very distraught. And she was very confused if she should file or not for divorce. And she was really sad and upset and angry and all of it. And I remember that because that night, I actually physically took her phone so she should not - so that if Johnny tried to - if Johnny tried to reach out to her again, she wouldn't have a phone that night, and she would go through the divorce tomorrow, the next day.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: So, I remember physically having her phone, and when I dropped them back at the penthouse, she said, keep my phone so if he contacts me, I won't know. I won't cave. And I'll file for divorce tomorrow. So I went home, to my house, with her phone, and that's my I remember. That's my it's sticking in my mind And then the next morning, and you can see in that text, she said, "I need my phone." I drove back to the penthouse, give her her phone that day.
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I'm assuming she filed for divorce, and that day, the "hole circus started
MS. VASQUEZ: And you believed that Ms. Heard should go through with the divorce, correct?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Correct.
MS. VASQUEZ: And that was based on what, exactly, Ms. Inglessis?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: On "hat she told me on -- her recollection of the marriage.
MS. BREDEHOFT: I think you testified earlier that Amber's practice was to wear concealer, I foundation, moisturizer, things of that nature. Was there -- do you have any recollection that Amber strayed from that and did not wear makeup during the week of May 21, 2016?
MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you have any recollection, that week, of thinking, oh, my goodness, Amber Heard isn't wearing her makeup this week?
MS. BREDEHOFT: So, do you know whether Amber Heard took any steps to reduce her swelling during this -- in preparation for the James Corden show?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: Yes. She took arnica, and we had arnica gel. And I always have arnica gel in my kit anyway, and she had arnica gel. Yeah, she used arnica gel and some ice.
MS. BREDEHOFT: And what does arnica gel do with I respect to swelling?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: I use arnica gel in my kit to bring any swollen area of my client's face down.
MS. BREDEHOFT: How does that typically work, what's your experience?
MELANIE INGLESSIS: It just brings, you know, the swelling down. I mean, not drastically, but it helps with the swelling a little bit.