Depp v. Heard Transcript Whitney Henriquez
Depp v. Heard / Day 18 / May 18, 2022
6 pages · 6 witnesses · 3,470 lines
Day 18 featured five Heard-aligned witnesses — Pennington, Drew, Marz, Inglessis, and Sexton — each corroborating injury or abuse patterns, and each narrowed on cross to secondhand accounts or a single directly witnessed incident.
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[SECTION HEADER]: EXAMINATION BY COUNSEL FOR THE DEFENDANT AND BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Will you please state your name for the

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Whitney Henriquez.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And where do you live?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: In Glendale, California.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And you're Amber's sister?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: How old are you?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So you're her younger sister?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Are you married and do you have any children?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I am. I'm married with two small children.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. How old are your children?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Three-year-old and a newborn, just over two months old.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What is your profession?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Before the pandemic, I worked in hotels doing various food and beverage management jobs, primarily events as well.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to take you to Mr. Depp and Amber, the early stages. When did you first meet Mr. Depp?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I met him sometime in 2011 for the Rum Diary press tour. But I did not meet him until 2012 as Amber's boyfriend.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And were you living with Amber at the time?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Yes, we had an apartment together on Orange Avenue. I have split my time between there, as well as an apartment I shared with my boyfriend at the time.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, describe your relationship with Mr. Depp in the early stages.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: We got along really well at first. He was sober at the time and Johnny, when he's sober, is very bright and beautiful and lovely and kind and generous. And he was very easy to get to know. And frankly, we all fell in love with him, at first.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, describe your observations of Amber and Mr. Depp's relationship in the early stages.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Again, at first, that was wonderful. They were incredibly in love. I actually, to this 1 13 day, have never seen my sister fall so madly for somebody. And things were wonderful. They seemed to really understand each other and get along well and -- but very quickly, this pattern emerged, as their relationship went on, that if Johnny was using, there almost always was a fight. There was always --

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Calls for speculation. Lack of foundation.

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THE COURT: As to foundation, do you want to lay a foundation.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, changes in their relationship did you observe?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: That when Johnny was using, there would be a fight. I saw it firsthand.

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Same objection.

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THE COURT: Overruled. That's fine.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: If he was using or if he was drinking, there was almost always a fight. There was always an argument. There was always a period where they weren't getting along. And it seemed to oscillate pretty quickly. He would be sober for a little . bit and would, almost just as quickly, fall off the wagon and start to use or drink, and there'd Is be some big blowout. And it seemed to go back and forth pretty frequently. There was never an I 1 O extended period of time where it was one or the In other.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, changes did you observe in Amber over the period of her relationship with Johnny?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: At first, Amber was Amber. She was loud, fun, funny. She laughed a lot. She was just this happy, bright, fun-loving thing, always, surrounded by friends. And then it was just -- it was a progression that took over such a long period of time, and it was so slow. In hindsight, it was like watching a slow-motion gunshot. She suddenly stopped sleeping as much. Wasn't as funny, she wasn't as loud, she wasn't as gregarious as she used to be. Cut to the end of their relationship, she was so physically unwell. She maybe weighed 100 pounds soaking wet. She was emaciated, she wasn't sleeping. She had developed a heart condition and her eyes were sunken in. Just looked like she--

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Lack of foundation. Hearsay.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: She's giving her observation.

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THE COURT: Heart condition. I'll sustain as to heart condition.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Other than the heart condition, please continue.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: If you were to do a photograph side by side, you would see two very different people. And people that knew her throughout the entirety of their relationship saw the same thing.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, observations did you make about Mr. Depp's exhibiting controlling behavior over the course of their relationship relating to Amber's clothing?

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Leading.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, observations did she make about --

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THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, observations did you make about Mr. Depp's treatment of Amber relating to clothing?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: At first, you know, it would be, like, light jokes or, you know, she left the house wearing something, like, oh, are you going to wear that? Or some joke. It was very subtle. And then over time, again, just like the progression of their relationship, it just intensified. Then, suddenly, it's, you know, she's - they have the same stylist. He forgot her name, but he had the same stylist. And he had been, essentially, controlling what she wore to events and things like that.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: She went from being able to wear whatever the hell she wanted and then, suddenly, she's wearing anything that her stylist, his I stylist wanted her to wear or wanted them to wear. And her style, over time, just got more and more conservative.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, observations did you make about Mr. Depp with respect to Amber's work?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: That, too, was one thing. At first, it was - he was saying he was protective over the kinds of jobs she was taking. You know, oh, that's not going to be good for her career; that's not going to be good for this; that's not going to ! be good for that. Then, suddenly, it's he has a problem with her taking any sort of job or any sort of audition. And then it became every time that she even thought about taking a meeting, it was another fight. He would often say things like, I don't even understand why she needs to work. I'll take care of her. I'll take care of you.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I'll take care of everyone else. She doesn't need to work at all. It was one of those things that he was, at the end, vehemently against her working at all.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, observations did you make about Mr. Depp's treatment of Amber with respect to friends?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Again, these are all things that just very slowly, over time just changed. You know, at first, you know, he was very inclusive of all of us. At one point, we all lived downtown together in these beautiful lofts. At first, that was part of the relationship, was getting to know him and him getting to know us. Then just, again, slowly over time, he took issue with Brandon at one point, then Brandon wasn't allowed in the fold. Time went on, he had an issue with iO. IO wasn't allowed in the fold anymore. And then, at some point, even me.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: He had accused me of doing something horrendous that I had never done. And then, suddenly, I'm not allowed around anymore. Over time, she had such a small network of people that were there to support her. It was hard to watch.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. What, if any, observations did you make about Mr. Depp's attitude or treatment of Amber with respect to health, her health?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Amber was -- she was a pretty healthy person at first. She didn't have any medical issues that -- you know, didn't need intervention of any sort. But any one of Johnny's attempts to get sober, he had employed Dr. Kipper, who had these nurses, and he had a personal nurse that would, like, administer medication. You know, I think the intention was to make sure that he stayed clean --

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Calls for speculation.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Without discussing --

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THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What his intentions were, just go ahead and give us what your observations were with respect to Mr. Depp, with respect to Amber's health.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Sure. All of a sudden, for really unclear reasons, Amber had her own personal nurse, just administering medication. And from what I saw, it was strange. I didn't think Amber needed medication on the daily, or whatever, and then all of a sudden, she has a therapist that is employed by Dr. Kipper. Even her medical treatment was

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Calls for speculation with respect to the control.

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THE COURT: As to control. But paid for, I'll allow it.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if anything, did Mr. Depp say IO about Amber's electronic devices?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Well, every time they fought or had an argument, a device was going to get smashed. She lost a phone, a tablet, computer. You could almost guarantee that something would get destroyed when they fought.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: !, expectation of privacy for her, in terms of what was on her devices or accessibility of her devices.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: How many times did you observe Mr. Depp drunk?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Countless. I mean, too many times for me to quantify.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: How many times did you observe Mr. Depp high on drugs?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Again, it would be really hard for me to put a number to that. It was a lot.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And what types of drugs did Mr. Depp use, to your knowledge and your observation?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Personally, I've done cocaine and drank with him on a number of occasions, so that. He almost always had weed of some sort, marijuana, like, you know, joints or whatever. I have seen him take MDMA on an occasion, shrooms as well. I once saw him consume a bag, a Ziploc bag that had a bunch of just unknown pills, some prescription, some not. He just took them all at once to see what would happen, and he laughed about it.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, you said that you also did cocaine with Mr. Depp; is that correct?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, observations did you make as to what Mr. Depp carried in his pockets?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Well, he always had - he always had cigarettes or rolling papers. When I say 1; "cigarettes," I mean the tobacco and rolling O papers. He always had a joint on him. If he was ! 11 in the phase of using coke, he would carry around I a little pill box that had his cocaine in it. He always had a pocket knife, a lighter, and, yeah, that's about what I can recall.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. What, if any, behavior changes did you observe when Mr. Depp had been drinking alcohol or using drugs? u 18

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Like I said, it was, you know, a completely different version, you know. He was almost unrecognizable when he was drinking and using to an excess. If it was alcohol and coke, he would - he would slur, he would go on these paranoid delusional rants about things that didn't make any sense. He -- you know, his speech would be slurred. I almost never knew him to use cocaine without drinking, those were, generally, combined. When he would smoke weed, he was much more relaxed. He was kind of what you would expect, happy on the couch, laughing. But when he was drinking, he would just get very angry and he would just say really nasty, unkind things, and it almost didn't -- usually about Amber, sometimes about me. But it almost didn't matter if she was in the room or not.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: He would just say really horrible, horrible things about her or to her.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you give the jury a few examples that you can recall?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Pardon me language. Fucking cunt. He called her a fucking used up trash bag. Slimy whore, saggy whore. You know, fucking cunt was thrown out a bunch. Just horrible things like that.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to take you to March 21st, 2013, we've called it the painting or Keith Richards incident. When did you arrive at the Orange apartment on March 21st, 2013?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: It was sometime in the afternoon. Sometime in the afternoon. I came in and Orange was typically a very neat, clean place, but as soon as I walked in, there was a bunch of -- there was smoke in the air. I remember it smelled like cigarette smoke and there was smoke in the air, so somebody had been smoking inside, which was odd because Amber and I don't smoke, and Johnny used to always just go outside and smoke. But walking a little further in, there was furniture askew.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Going into the kitchen, there was -- Johnny sat at our little breakfast nook table that we had there, and he was wearing glasses. He had, you know, there was cocaine in front of him. There was booze in front of him. Journal, like, newspaper, things like that just kind of scattered around at the table. And I sat down to talk to him to see what was going on, and it was really hard to understand what he was getting at. It was really clear that he had been drinking for some time. His speech was slurred and, again, he was really - it was really hard to follow what he was trying to tell me. At first, he seemed to be upset that my sister had been photographed with her friend Marie in France. He, then, started saying that it must have meant that she was having an affair with her and, you know, everyone would be laughing at her, and this would end - her father was a French politician, so he, then, started rambling on about, oh, he knows what her I father is up to, this, that, and the other.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Again, it was this strange, paranoid tailspin, is the only way I can describe it. It wasn't true. My sister wasn't having an affair with this person.

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. I think it's pretty nonresponsive at this time.

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THE COURT: All right. Next question. Sustain the objection.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Please describe what your conversations were and your observations were with Mr. Depp.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: So, as I'm sitting there talking to him, Amber is in the kitchen and, you know, she's not sat at the table or anything, just kind of hanging back, and Johnny is still talking to me about what the problem was.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: And then, all of a sudden, the focus shifts to this painting that has been on the wall ever since Amber and I moved in, and the painting was done by one of my sister's ex's, so he was convinced that it was on the wall to taunt him, to tease him and how disrespectful that he had to wake up next to this painting, and it surely meant that Amber and Tasya was back together again, which, of course, was not true. But then he was upset about that; he was upset about this painting that was on the wall.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I was trying to talk to him, not only to just try and figure out what he was going on, but I was trying to get him out the house because he was already very late for filming this documentary that was being shot at one of his houses.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Is that with Keith Richards?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Correct. My understanding of it.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: So, for hours, we sat there. I was trying to, you know, talk to him, make him feel like everything was okay. Just try to get him out of the house. His assistant kept coming in and out at one point. And all the while, Amber is just in the kitchen. She's, again, she's like giving us space, but she's in earshot, and he's saying these things about her. At one point, she tries to come over to, like, check on him and she kind of embraces him from behind, and he's just, like, fuck off and, you know, continues to say these things about her. And, again, we sat there forever.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: And eventually, we did get him to leave the house. So I - but he insisted that Amber come too and that if they were going to work it out, she would have to be there and she would have to talk about it at some other point, I guess.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Let me stop you for a minute. What, if any, injuries did you observe on Amber at that time?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: At that time - it was before I had a real understanding what was going on. I didn't know, frankly. Her face was swollen and - but I didn't - and it was kind of red. I thought she had just been crying. And her lip did appear to be cut, but, again, at the time, that wasn't what we were trying to do. It wouldn't have been appropriate to, you know, talk to her about it or anything. That wasn't my focus, frankly. My focus was, you know, sitting there trying to figure out what he was upset about and get him out of the house.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So how long were you at Orange with Mr. Depp and Amber before he left to go to Keith Richards?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Few hours. I couldn't say. Maybe around, like, four or five hours. It took a minute.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Now, did you accompany Mr. Depp over to the recording or did you stay?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Did Amber? Did Amber go too?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Correct. That was part of the condition of him leaving, is that Amber had to go with us.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Please describe to the jury what happened next, then, on your ride over there.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: So, Amber and Johnny were sitting in the back. I was in the front with Sterling, the driver, and I - they weren't saying much back there. There was music playing pretty loudly, so I couldn't really hear what was going on back there. But at some point, I heard the back door open - or the back window open, and Johnny is holding our dog out the window. And I - I froze. I was scared because I just remember thinking I knew how inebriated he was and the dog was very small. I thought if she twitched or, you know, if he lost her or somehow, she was just going to go e out the window.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: And Amber, of course, was just saying -

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Not offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Don't say what Amber said, just continue with your observations.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: He brought the dog back into the car and he was just laughing, this, really, scary, loud, like it was almost like a cackle. And he, then, made some joke about putting her in the microwave, and that was the joke after that, was t I putting the dog in the microwave.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. So during the year 2013, what, if any, marks did you observe on Amber, any injuries or signs of markings, anything like that?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Occasionally, I'd see bruising, cut lips, split lips. Weird marks, burns, or, I don't know, on her arms, scratches on her arm, things like that. It was just - it was just weird and it was periodic. It wasn't, like, a constant thing. But there were - there were injuries to her.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: And what, if anything, did you do? Did ask her about them?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I did, at some point, confront her and ask her. And she -

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

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THE COURT: Sustain the objection.

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THE COURT: Next question.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: But you did ask her about them?

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection. Same objection.

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THE COURT: That's fine. Overrule.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm going to take you to June 2013, Hicksville. Were you in attendance at that event with Mr. Depp and Amber?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Yes, yes.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Please describe for the jury what you can recall from that event.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: So Hicksville is like this - it's a collection of themed Airstreams, like a little - it's in the middle of the desert. It's a fun, little place to go. So we went with a group of our friends, and, yeah, so each one of us had our own little Airstream or whatever. My partner and I, at the time, we got there last. As we're going around checking out the different Airstreams, because, again, each one of them had a different theme, so it was kind of fun to see who was staying in which theme or whatever. I opened Amber's and Johnny and there's cocaine on the table. I didn't really think much of it at the time. I was, like, okay, fine, we're all here to have fun.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: That night, you know, we sat around the campfire, everyone was drinking, some people were taking shrooms, you know. And then I drank too much, and I went to bed early, before everyone else. And then the next day, you know, when everyone was cleaning up, I had heard about something that had happened the night before and an altercation that --

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Don't tell us what you heard. Go ahead and just tell the jury what you observed.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I observed people cleaning up after what appeared to be just a night of friends hanging out. I then went to my sister's trailer and -- where she was staying with Johnny, and it looked like a bomb went off in there. There were broken things, things had been askewed. It just looked incredibly messy. Looked like somebody had ransacked it.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: That's what I observed.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, I'm going to take you to September 2013. What, if anything, did you do with Mr. Depp relating to going to London?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: So, September 2013, that was around the time of my birthday. Amber was filming in London and she wasn't able to make it back for my birthday, and it was also a friend of ours, iO also has a birthday the same time, or around the same time as us, as me. Johnny thought it would be great to load up and surprise Amber on set. He thought she'd really enjoy it so that's what we did. We loaded up, went on a plane that he chartered, and I believe my father was with us as well, and, yeah, Johnny and I drank and did a lot of cocaine on that plane, and I ended up passing out, but we get to London and, you know, we had -- it was wonderful to see Amber, and we had a dinner that night at the hotel that we were staying at -- or it was either that night or the next night. I can't remember, exactly. But at one point, Johnny picked up a steak knife and he hurled it at his assistant. It missed him, but, obviously, Nathan got upset and he left, and he was upset as well. And I -- a fight broke out between Amber and Johnny that night.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I didn't -- I didn't witness it. I wasn't there.

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Lack of foundation.

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THE COURT: All right. I'll sustain the objection.

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THE COURT: Next question.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So you can't tell us about it if you weren't there.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So what happened next that you were aware of?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I left sometime after that, and when I touched down in Los Angeles, I learned that they had-

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Not offered to prove the truth of the matter, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: Sustain the objection.

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THE COURT: Next question.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: When did they get engaged?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: They got engaged at some point when I was on the plane. I left London; by the time I landed in Los Angeles, they were engaged.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now I'm going to jump all the way to November 2014, the 2014 Hollywood film Awards. What, if any, involvement did you have with Mr. Depp relating to the Hollywood Film Awards?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I was called over to where he was getting ready, 80.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: When you say "80," are we talking about Sweetzer? •5705-'1,-

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Yes, that's one of the houses that is on that street that Johnny had- he had several houses on that street. 80 was the one that he referred to as, like, the man cave. That's where he spent a lot of time. So I was summoned to 80. Again, following a fight that he and my sister were having.

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MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Lack of foundation.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Just don't talk about what you weren't party to?

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THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

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THE COURT: Go ahead.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Please tell the jury what you observed, what happened when you were there.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Sure. Sure. When I got there, Johnny was outside and he was very drunk already, and he was continuing to drink. He was, again, rambling about my sister having affairs with people that it just wasn't true, and just kept saying things. It was, you know, that she doesn't need to work and he doesn't understand why she continues to take jobs. She must be doing it to insult him or to hurt him or she's only taking these jobs because, you know, she wants to meet people. I don't know.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: The entire time that we were talking, his sister and his, you know, assistants, at one point, everyone was trying to get him out of the house because he was already very late for this.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: But eventually, they did get him to O leave the house, and I saw the awards show later, at some point.

164 5:43:09

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what did you observe when you I watched the awards show?

165 5:43:13

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Unfortunately, an extension of what I had seen at the house. He was still very drunk. Actually, a little bit more drunk than when I saw him at the house.

166 5:43:21

MS. BREDEHOFT: And what was he doing that caused you I to believe he was very drunk?

167 5:43:24

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Well, he was drinking the entire time understood what Johnny looked like when he's we were talking. In general, at this point, I drunk. He's stammering, his speech was hard to understand, he was slurring, he was super unsteady on his feet. Yeah, I recognized what he looks like when he is drunk.

168 5:43:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now I'm going to take you to March 23rd, 2015. And at this time, were you living at the penthouse suites?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: When, approximately, did you move into the penthouse suites?

171 5:44:09

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Ooh, I want to -- I actually don't know for sure when I moved in. It would take me a minute to remember. Sometime in 2014, I think.

172 5:44:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And so as of March 23rd, 2015, you're living there, correct?

173 5:44:27
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MS. BREDEHOFT: And where are you living in those e I s penthouses suites? What is it called?

175 5:44:32

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: So I was in what they call PH4. The layout is, you know, the entire top floor of this building, Johnny owns them all, and he was kind enough to let us all live there. So I was in PH4. Amber and Johnny were in PH3. I believe Isaac was in 2, and Rocky and Josh were in 1. But the only ones that actually connected were 3, 4, and 5. So, again, I was kind of sandwiched between where Johnny and Amber stayed and Amber's, basically, closet. So, basically, you had to cut through to get to one point to the other. So I was sleeping. I woke up to Amber in my bedroom saying, can you believe he's cheating on me?

176 5:45:18

MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor.

177 5:45:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: Not offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted.

178 5:45:20

THE COURT: Overruled.

179 5:45:22

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

180 5:45:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

181 5:45:25

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: She said something.

182 5:45:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: She said overruled. It's okay for you to say what.

183 5:45:30

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Oh, okay.

184 5:45:31

MS. BREDEHOFT: Just, please, just briefly, what you just explained.

185 5:45:33

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I woke up to her saying Can you believe he's cheating on me Your fucking brother is cheating on me I got up I told her to stay right there

186 5:45:44

MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

187 5:45:44

MS. BREDEHOFT: It's not offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted.

188 5:45:47

THE COURT: Overrule for that statement. Go ahead.

189 5:45:49

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

190 5:45:50

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I instructed her to stay in my apartment while I go and talk to Johnny. So, I leave PH4, I leave her in PH4.

191 5:46:00

MS. BREDEHOFT: Let me just stop. Are you sober, drunk, had you been drinking?

192 5:46:04

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Oh, rare occasions where I was sober. I was - it was in the middle of night. I was sleep.

193 5:46:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, I'm not sure I understand your question [sic]. So, you were sober?

194 5:46:15

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Absolutely. Yes.

195 5:46:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

196 5:46:19

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: So I go to PHS, where Amber -- I'm sorry, Johnny, Debbie, and Travis were all standing in the kitchen of PHS. I was -- I went down there to talk to him, and, again, I can tell he's clearly drunk, and he has a bottle of alcohol of some sort in front of him as well. And, again, he's talking to me about how he -- how Amber found these text messages between him and a woman called Rochelle, and then he starts saying that this woman was meaningless. It was just -- it wasn't anything special. She's nothing special. But then he immediately shifted to, well, Amber pushed me.

197 5:47:01

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Amber made me do it. Of course I'm cheating on her, you know, whatever. It suddenly became about Amber making him do it. At some point, then, Amber is on the mezzanine level of PHS, so she is -- kind of hard to explain. The kitchen is down here and the mezzanine is up here. So she is there, it's her little office nook, and she starts shouting at him saying --

198 5:47:14

MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

199 5:47:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: Not offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted, Your Honor. She's screaming expletives at him.

200 5:47:29

THE COURT: All right. Overruled.

201 5:47:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

202 5:47:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

203 5:47:36

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: They're saying horrible things to one another. Fuck you. You know, he's calling her a fucking whore, fucking cunt. Used up trash bag, whatever. They were saying horrible things to each other. She was calling him old and fat. It was a fight. They were saying nasty things to one another. I leave them in the kitchen to go up the stairs. I was trying to calm Amber down, hoping to get her into my apartment. And Debbie had come up with me.

204 5:48:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: Debbie? Who's Debbie?

205 5:48:06

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Debbie was his nurse.

206 5:48:08

MS. BREDEHOFT: Debbie Lloyd? •20

207 5:48:09

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Yes, I believe that's her name.

208 5:48:11
209 5:48:12

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: So we're with Amber on the mezzanine

210 5:48:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: I'm sorry, just so we know who "we're" is, is it you and Debbie that are with Amber?

211 5:48:17
212 5:48:19
213 5:48:21

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Debbie, Amber, and I on the little mezzanine area. And as I mentioned, the mezzanine overlooks the kitchen and the living room. So Johnny, then, hurls a Red Bull can and it hits Debbie in the back. She didn't even react. She didn't really even seem to notice. But I'm standing up there talking -- I'm standing up there on the top of the stairs with my back to the stairs, and that's when Johnny runs up the stairs and, again, I'm facing Amber.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: He comes up behind me, strikes me in the back, kind of just somewhere over here, he strikes me in the back, I hear Amber shout, "Don't hit my fucking sister." She smacks him, lands one and then he grabs -- at that point, that's when Travis runs up the stairs, after Amber landed one. But by that time, Johnny had already grabbed Amber by the hair with one hand and was g y whacking her repeatedly in the face with the other, as I was standing there. Travis pulls them apart, I get Amber into mine, I close the doors behind me and lock them I then hear Johnny's voice shouting.

215 5:49:33

MS. LECAROZ: Never mind.

216 5:49:34

THE COURT: Sorry.

217 5:49:34

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I hear Johnny's voice shouting, "I fucking hate you. I hate you both. You fucking cunt. You fucking whores." Then I hear crashing. I hear crashing and banging and smashing, and he starts screaming like an animal. I then just moved Amber into the next room, and I kept her there all night The next day, I go and I see her closet has been completely destroyed. Racks were overturned. One of the clothing racks had been, like, tossed down the stairs. There was art off the wall. And down in the kitchen, there was broken glass, like just the place was destroyed.

218 5:50:15

MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, can you bring up Defendant's Exhibit 400.

219 5:50:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: Whitney, do you recognize this text exchange here?

220 5:50:28
221 5:50:28

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And it's on March 23, 2015 at 6:57; is that correct?

222 5:50:34
223 5:50:34

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Could you describe --

224 5:50:35

MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor.

225 5:50:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: Could you identify it, please?

226 5:50:37

THE COURT: Sorry.

227 5:50:38

MS. LECAROZ: On hearsay grounds.

228 5:50:52

THE COURT: All right. You want to ! 12 approach? Let's take a look.

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THE COURT: I don't know who this is between. Who is this text between?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: The text between her and Nathan Holmes, he's a business manager.

232

MS. LECAROZ: It's Kevin Murphy.

233

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yeah, Kevin Murphy, who is his house manager at that point, Your Honor.

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MS. LECAROZ: I have it here. Michelle's getting it for me. Thank you.

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THE COURT: She's very good at it. Other way.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: What I'm proposing, Your Honor, this is a text message. I've taken out the part that says what Johnny did --

237

THE COURT: Your haven't taken it out here, but okay.

238

MS. BREDEHOFT: You're right. But I propose that the rest of it is not offered to prove the truth of the matter.

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THE COURT: What's it offered for?

240

MS. BREDEHOFT: Offered to show she -- I she took these pictures of the closet and was sending it to him

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MS. LECAROZ: She didn't say that she took the pictures, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: I don't see what the relevance is if it's not offered for the truth of the matter. I don't see what the relevance is for the words.

243

MS. BREDEHOFT: Just showing that she -- well, and it also is an excited utterance of saying you're a fucking cunt.

244

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection. The pictures, though, is fine.

245

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can we have the dates because that's when --

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MS. LECAROZ: I don't have an objection, Your Honor.

247

THE COURT: Okay. No objection.

248

THE COURT: You can show the dates. Take the words off. Is that all the words on it?

249

MS. BREDEHOFT: Some more down here.

250

THE COURT: Take all the words off down to 400 -- we already have 400A in evidence.

251

MS. BREDEHOFT: Yeah, we made that 400A.

252

THE COURT: So this would be 400 with redactions.

253
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THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: Okay. So 400 is in y evidence with redactions.

258 5:53:12

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can we publish, Your Honor?

259 5:53:14

THE COURT: Yes. It's in evidence, yes.

260 5:53:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

261

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. BREDEHOFT:

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MS. BREDEHOFT: So, Whitney, this is dated March 23, 2015, 6:57.

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MS. BREDEHOFT: Do you see that?

264 5:53:24
265 5:53:25

MS. BREDEHOFT: That's to Kevin. Who's Kevin?

266 5:53:28

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Kevin Murphy. He was Johnny's estate manager.

267 5:53:32
268 5:53:33

MS. BREDEHOFT: Then, Michelle, if you can scroll up. So let's stop at the first one. Can you, please, describe to the jury what this is? 20.

269 5:53:40

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: That is one of Amber's clothing racks on the stairs that lead up to the bedroom area.

270 5:53:48

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And you took this picture?

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273 5:53:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: Michelle, can you ,4 scroll up again.

274 5:53:55

MS. BREDEHOFT: And, please, describe for the jury what's depicted in this photo.

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: These are more of Amber's racks. These were her shoes and purses and such. Those were all, like, taken off the walls, and you can see here all of her clothes on are on floor, and in shoes.

276 5:54:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Thank you. And we're up to the next one. Could you, please, describe what the next picture depicts?

277 5:54:22

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: More of the same. Clothing racks that have been kind of toppled over or moved. They used to - they were, like, neat. It looked like a, you know, it was a closet room But these were toppled over and moved. This was the room that adjoined my room, so ...

278 5:54:41

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Let's go to the next one. And could you describe for the jury, please, what this y j y p is.

279 5:54:47

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: That's another clothing rack that had been taken down and taken apart, kind of.

280 5:54:58

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: ! Is please describe for the jury what's depicted here.

281 5:55:01

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: More. Just more clothing racks that have been taken down, moved.

282 5:55:05

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And please describe for the jury what's depicted here.

283 5:55:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. We'll go to the next one. And

284 5:55:14

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Same thing. Just more clothing racks that were toppled over.

285 5:55:19

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And if we go to the next one.

286 5:55:24

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: And this is the kitchen area. This is the - taken from the mezzanine level that I was describing earlier, but that looks like broken glass or something, blue ceramics broken.

287 5:55:40

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. If we go up, the top one there looks like part of what was earlier. Let's go to the bottom one, I think we have a bigger picture there. Does that help --

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MS. BREDEHOFT: With what's depicted there?

290 5:55:51

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I still can't tell what it was, maybe a plate of some sort, but there's also a rolled cigarette, a couple bottles of water. But, yeah, whatever that blue thing is, it was broken, so it's all over the kitchen there, and also next to the stove.

291 5:56:07

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Thank you.

292 5:56:10

MS. BREDEHOFT: After the staircase incident, what, if anything, did Mr. Depp ask you to sign?

293 5:56:21

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: There was an NDA on my kitchen table.

294 5:56:23

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you tell the jury what an NDA is?

295 5:56:26

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: It's a nondisclosure agreement. It's basically, my understanding, it's a contract to keep things private. To keep your mouth shut, essentially.

296 5:56:37

MS. BREDEHOFT: All right. And you were given one or asked to sign one?

297 5:56:40

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I was asked to sign one. I don't - I don't believe I signed it. I left sometime after.

298 5:56:47

MS. BREDEHOFT: So you moved out after that?

299 5:56:49

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: It was - yes, it was after this point that Johnny had accused me of selling stories to the media, which were absolutely untrue. But I moved out after that point.

300 5:57:02

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. Now, did there come a time that Amber asked you to move back in?

301 5:57:08

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Yes. February 2016, she texted me asking me to come back.

302 5:57:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And so you were living with her from February, sometime in February 2016 forward?

303 5:57:22

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I think on and off. I think I had my own apartment by then, but I spent a lot more time at the Eastern after that.

304 5:57:29

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. I'm going to take you to April 21, 2016, Amber's 30th birthday party. Were you present for that?

305 5:57:35
306 5:57:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: Can you, please, describe to the jury what you observed that night?

307 5:57:40

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: It was her 30th birthday, so we wanted to make it, excuse me, really special. We had - made this beautiful dinner, you know, and it was great. All of her close friends were there and everyone was having a really good time. Everyone was having fun. You know, Johnny showed up very, very late, and he was drunk when he showed up. Amber was obviously upset about it, but there came a time in the party where we all went around the table and said our favorite thing about Amber, you know, just funny memories or whatever. When it came to Johnny's turn, he told this story about how they first met when they met for the Rum Diary.

308 5:58:31

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: So, you know, he had this story about how she came into his office and she sat on the couch and her perfect ass left a perfect imprint on the couch, and he wouldn't let anyone sit there after she left that day. And it was one of those stories that I -- everyone was kind of embarrassed. You know, we had all gone around the table saying really nice things about her and gets to him and he was talking about her ass. We were all kind of embarrassed.

309 5:59:03

MS. BREDEHOFT: And when did you leave the party that night?

310 5:59:07

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I left pretty shortly after that.

311 5:59:09
312 5:59:10

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: And I went home.

313 5:59:11

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, conversation did you have with Mr. Depp about his plans to attend Coachella the next day?

314 5:59:18

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: He was planning on coming to Coachella Is with us, you know, whenever. At some point, we were talking about what was happening the next Ito day. And so that night, he told us he was going I to come to Coachella with us the next day.

315 5:59:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. And did he ultimately come to Coachella with you the next day?

316 5:59:36
317 5:59:36

MS. BREDEHOFT: Okay. I'm going to jump forward to talk about some statements that were made in the counterclaim.

318 5:59:45

MS. BREDEHOFT: What, if any, observations did you make I about how the statements, we're talking about the three statements that were quoting Adam Waldman, impacted Amber? And I'm asking for your observations, just tell the jury what your observations were of how these statements impacted Amber.

319 6:00:06

MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Compound. Lack of foundation. Speculation.

320 6:00:11

THE COURT: Overruled. That's fine.

321 6:00:14

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

322 6:00:15

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Amber has worked so hard to overcome everything that she went through in the duration of their relationship. She has really, really tried her best to move past it. And anybody that knows Amber, at all, knows that some of the most important things to her are integrity. It's her reputation is all she has. She doesn't have piles of money and private islands or-

323 6:00:46

MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. It's nonresponsive.

324 6:00:49

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

325 6:00:51

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

326 6:00:53

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I'm - she was devastated by these. She - to say that they're not true, it devastated her. Also we had just buried our mother. You know, so, Amber, she started having panic attacks randomly. She was not sleeping.

327 6:01:12

MS. LECAROZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay.

328 6:01:13

MS. BREDEHOFT: These are your observations?

329 6:01:14

THE COURT: Overruled.

330 6:01:16

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you.

331 6:01:17

MS. BREDEHOFT: Please continue.

332 6:01:20

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: These statements devastated her. They devastated her because they weren't true and they were just very, very, very much affecting her.

333 6:01:32

MS. BREDEHOFT: And you talked about panic attacks. What else did you observe that she would do as a result of these, physical?

334 6:01:41

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: She would just, like, periodically just break into tears. She - I don't know how else to describe it. She was so unwell. She stopped sleeping again. She was super anxious. She couldn't relax. She couldn't sit still. It was very similar to the Amber that I had seen back in 2016, as she was trying to get out of this relationship. It launched her back into this space where she was just so physically unwell and she cried a lot

335 6:02:18

MS. BREDEHOFT: Thank you I have no further questions.

336 6:02:21

THE COURT: All right. Cross-examination.

337

[SECTION HEADER]: EXAMINATION BY COUNSEL FOR THE PLAINTIFF AND BY MS. LECAROZ:

338 6:02:34

MS. LECAROZ: Good afternoon, Ms. Henriquez We haven't met before. My name is Rebecca Lecaroz I'm one of the attorneys representing Mr. Depp in this case.

339 6:02:38
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MS. LECAROZ: You grew up in Texas with your sister s and your parents, right?

341 6:02:46

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Correct l I 7

342 6:02:46

MS. LECAROZ: You were really close with Ms. Heard growing up?

343 6:02:49
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MS. LECAROZ: And you're still close now, right?

345 6:02:53
346 6:02:53

MS. LECAROZ: And you love her?

347 6:02:55

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Of course.

348 6:02:57

MS. LECAROZ: Your childhood, though, had some difficult moments, right?

349 6:03:00

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: It wasn't perfect.

350 6:03:02

MS. LECAROZ: Your father hit you and your sister at 6 times, right?

351 6:03:06
352 6:03:07

MS. LECAROZ: And your sister would protect you from that abuse when she could, wouldn't she?

353 6:03:12

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: We would protect each other, for sure.

354 6:03:15

MS. LECAROZ: And when you graduated from high school you moved out to Los Angeles, right?

355 6:03:21
356 6:03:22

MS. LECAROZ: And your sister gave you a place to I ! 15 live in LA?

357 6:03:25
358 6:03:26

MS. LECAROZ: And she helped support you?

359 6:03:30

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: In part. I also was working myself. Yeah.

360 6:03:34

MS. LECAROZ: And you're grateful for her for being there when you needed her, right?

361 6:03:37

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Of course.

362 6:03:39

MS. LECAROZ: Just like she protected and cared for you, you want to protect and care for her, right?

363 6:03:45

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: She - when I can, of course, but - yeah.

364 6:03:52

MS. LECAROZ: You testified to having a great relationship with Mr. Depp when he first started dating your sister, right?

365 6:03:57
366 6:03:58

MS. LECAROZ: And you thought of him as a brother?

367 6:04:01
368 6:04:01

MS. LECAROZ: He called you "sis"?

369 6:04:03
370 6:04:04

MS. LECAROZ: And you had affectionate nicknames for him too, didn't you?

371 6:04:07

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Number of them, yes.

372 6:04:09

MS. LECAROZ: And you testified that, for a time, you lived in the ECB penthouses with Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard?

373

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: That's correct

374

MS. LECAROZ: And Mr. Depp owned those penthouses?

375
376

MS. LECAROZ: You didn't pay rent while you were living there, right?

378

MS. LECAROZ: You didn't pay for any of the bills or for the penthouses?

379

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: No. He was very generous.

380

MS. LECAROZ: And Rocky Pennington lived in one of those penthouses, too, right?

381
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MS. LECAROZ: And at some point, her boyfriend, Josh Drew, moved in, right?

384

MS. LECAROZ: And Isaac Baruch lived in one of.those penthouses too?

386

MS. LECAROZ: And you know he testified here that you called him your spirit animal right?

387

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I didn't know that, but he's wonderful.

388

MS. LECAROZ: You called him your spirit animal?

389

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: At one point I did, yeah.

390

MS. LECAROZ: You took trips with your sister and Mr. Depp also, right?

391

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Occasionally.

392

MS. LECAROZ: You didn't pay for those either, right?

393

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Nope, I did not.

394

MS. LECAROZ: During the course of Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard's relationship, you were frequently involved in their arguments, weren't you?

396

MS. LECAROZ: In fact, you had a nickname, right?

397

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Marriage counselor, yes.

398

MS. LECAROZ: You often found yourself mediating disputes between Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard, right?

399

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Clearly not very well, but, yes.

400

MS. LECAROZ: And when you were in that role of "marriage counselor," you empathized with Mr. Depp, right?

401

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Yes, on occasion.

402

MS. LECAROZ: Because you had a pretty good understanding of what he was going through?

403

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Depended on the situation. Sometimes, I could totally see from his perspective; other times, I saw it from her perspective.

404

MS. LECAROZ: You've been there with Ms. Heard before, right?

405

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: We're sisters, of course we've argued.

406

MS. LECAROZ: You knew what it was like to want to run away for days and do your own thing and not have Ms. Heard there fighting with you, right?

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WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I think that's kind of taken out of context a little bit. I -you know. I think more metaphorically. But, yes, I have been in s arguments with my sister.

408 6:06:04

MS. LECAROZ: And you have wanted to run away for 110 days, right?

409 6:06:07
410 6:06:07

MS. LECAROZ: And not have her there fighting with you?

411 6:06:14
412 6:06:18

MS. LECAROZ: You talked a little bit about the incident in March 2013, right?

413 6:06:24

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Which one?

414 6:06:24

MS. LECAROZ: That was the one before you went to the Keith Richards documentary set.

415 6:06:27
416 6:06:30

MS. LECAROZ: And you were present with Mr. Depp at Orange that day?

417 6:06:33
418 6:06:34

MS. LECAROZ: Didn't you do cocaine with Mr. Depp that afternoon?

419 6:06:38
420 6:06:39

MS. LECAROZ: And you said Mr. Depp's already intoxicated?

421 6:06:42

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: He was, by the time I got there.

422 6:06:43

MS. LECAROZ: And he was fighting with your sister?

423 6:06:47

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: He wasn't doing much of anything. He sat at the table. He was telling me about the fight that they had.

424 6:06:53

MS. LECAROZ: So he had been fighting with your sister that day, when you arrived?

425 6:06:56

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: That was my understanding.

426 6:06:58

MS. LECAROZ: And you said she had a puffy face?

427 6:07:01
428 6:07:02

MS. LECAROZ: And despite all of that, you decided it was a good idea to do cocaine with Mr. Depp at that juncture?

429 6:07:06

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Hadn't yet connected the dots. I hadn't yet understood what that meant or what that would do.

430 6:07:12

MS. LECAROZ: That was a yes? Yes, you took cocaine with Mr. Depp?

431 6:07:15

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I did, yes. I already said that.

432 6:07:26

MS. LECAROZ: You testified that you had suspicions that Mr. Depp was allegedly hitting your sister by some point in 2013, right?

433 6:07:35

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Suspicions.

434 6:07:36

MS. LECAROZ: And notwithstanding that in June of 2013, you were actually joking with Mr. Depp about hitting your sister, right?

435 6:07:43

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Regrettably over a text message, yes.

436 6:07:46

MS. LECAROZ: You were encouraging !:rim to hit her?

437 6:07:48

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I was not, literally, encouraging her to hit her.

438 6:07:51

MS. LECAROZ: But you were joking about it?

439 6:07:53

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Regrettably, yes. Again, lacks - I did not have an understanding, fully, of what that was. I never would have said that now, knowing what I know.

440 6:08:05

MS. LECAROZ: But that was around the time that you allegedly became aware that he was --

441 6:08:10

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I don't know.

442 6:08:10

MS. LECAROZ: Inflicting injuries on your sister that caused you to have suspicions?

443 6:08:13

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I don't know if it was around the same time.

444 6:08:18

MS. LECAROZ: Turning to the staircase incident in March 2015.

445 6:08:23

MS. LECAROZ: You testified that Mr. Depp allegedly hit you during that incident, right?

446 6:08:28
447 6:08:29

MS. LECAROZ: But you weren't sure if that contact was even meant for you, right?

448 6:08:33

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I honestly don't - I don't know what he was aiming for. My back was to him.

449 6:08:36

MS. LECAROZ: And you weren't injured during that incident, right?

450 6:08:39

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: No, I wasn't.

451 6:08:40

MS. LECAROZ: And you didn't seek medical attention?

452 6:08:43
453 6:08:44

MS. LECAROZ: And you said Debbie Lloyd was there during all of that, correct?

454 6:08:47
455 6:08:48

MS. LECAROZ: And Mr. Depp's security, Travis McGivern was there too?

456 6:08:50
457 6:08:53

MS. LECAROZ: You saw your sister hit Mr. Depp on the stairs that day, right?s

458 6:08:57

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: After he struck me, yes.

459 6:09:02

MS. LECAROZ: You said "she landed one," right?

460 6:09:05

MS. LECAROZ: AQ Uh-huh. And then the next day, you found some damage in the adjoining penthouse?

461 6:09:09
462 6:09:09

MS. LECAROZ: And we saw some pictures of what you saw that day, right?

463 6:09:14
464 6:09:15

MS. LECAROZ: You thought it was important to / 15 document that damage, right?

465 6:09:18

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Not to document. It was Kevin's job to kind of clean up the houses, take care of the houses. I took pictures just so he could be aware of what he would need to bring. I didn't know if he had tools here or whatever. I was just preparing him for what he was going to have to fix.

466 6:09:35

MS. LECAROZ: But you didn't take any pictures of your sister that day, right?

467 6:09:40

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: No, I didn't

468 6:09:43

MS. LECAROZ: Now, after March 2015, you continued to have a close relationship with Mr. Depp, right?

469 6:09:50
470 6:09:51

MS. LECAROZ: And you still loved him?

471 6:09:54

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Of course.

472 6:09:55

MS. LECAROZ: And you were there for him if he needed you, right?

473 6:09:58

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Of course.

474 6:09:59

MS. LECAROZ: And, in fact, just a couple of weeks after that staircase incident, you were still acting as the marriage counselor, weren't you?

475 6:10:06

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: At some point, sure.

476 6:10:10

MS. LECAROZ: And that fall, after the staircase incident, October 2015, you claim you had seen Mr. Depp hitting your sister, and then in October 2015, you were actually still trying to reconcile him and your sister when they were fighting, right?

477 6:10:27

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Yes. I was asked to support. I was just trying to help what I thought they both wanted. I was just trying to support - or trying my best to support them the way I thought that I could.

478 6:10:39

MS. LECAROZ: You still loved Mr. Depp at that point, right?

479 6:10:42

MS. LECAROZ: I did. And you didn't think that he and your sister were past the point of no return, right?

480 6:10:48

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: What I thought was irrelevant at that point. I really - those two were in love and they were working very hard. They wanted to be together, it seemed like, so I - I just helped as best as I could. I don't know how else to describe it.

481 6:11:06

MS. LECAROZ: Your sister still wanted to be with Mr. Depp, right?

482 6:11:08

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: She loved him.

483 6:11:11

MS. LECAROZ: And you didn't think they were past the point of no return?

484 6:11:15

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I don't know what you mean by that, exactly.

485 6:11:18

MS. LECAROZ: Okay.

486 6:11:20

MS. LECAROZ: Let's take a look at Plaintiff's Exhibit 1283. It's not, yet, in evidence, so we'll just show that to the witness.

487 6:11:35

MS. LECAROZ: If I might approach, Your Honor, I have this in redacted and unredacted form

488 6:11:38

THE COURT: Okay. If you want to come forward.

489

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

490

THE COURT: Plaintiff's 1283.

491

MS. BREDEHOFT: First of all, this has never been produced to us.

492

MS. LECAROZ: This is from the Defendant's records.

493

THE COURT: Okay. So what are we looking at? Who is this between?

494

MS. LECAROZ: This is between Ms. Heard ! 18 and Mr. Depp.

495

THE COURT: So Ms. Heard and Mr. Depp. So these are her statements. And then he states --

496

MS. LECAROZ: So, go to the third page. Ms. Heard says, I love you both -- "I love both of you so much. I would fucking stay out of it if I thought this shit was past the point of no return, but that's not where you guys are at right now. Sorry, those two blue ones right above the green.

497

MS. BREDEHOFT: So, first of all, it doesn't impeach because she said she doesn't know what she means.

498

THE COURT: She said -- she said she I was helping them, so what are you offering it for?

499

MS. LECAROZ: So she said that she didn't say that, they weren't past the point of no return.

500

MS. BREDEHOFT: She didn't testify to that. She testified that she wasn't sure what you were getting at there.

501

THE COURT: She testified that it wasn't her place to say. She was just being supportive, so this says something different.

502

MS. BREDEHOFT: First of all, you can't introduce documents for impeachment of a third-party witness, so it's not admissible. At best, she can put it in front of her and she can read it to her, but she can't put it into evidence.

503

MS. LECAROZ: That's what I said.

504

THE COURT: Are those the only ones you're looking at?

505

MS. LECAROZ: I just realized I have a redacted copy. I didn't redact the other IO messages. We can take care of that.

506

THE COURT: If you're not going to produce it into evidence, that's fine. She's just going to read it.

507

MS. LECAROZ: I'm going to read it to her.

508

MS. BREDEHOFT: Just those two?

509
510

THE COURT: Good. Thank you.

511

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

512

[SECTION HEADER]: BY MS. LECAROZ:

513 6:13:57

MS. LECAROZ: Ms. Henriquez, if I could just direct q , j your attention.

514 6:14:00

MS. LECAROZ: If we could go to th third page, please.

515 6:14:02

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Do I have control of this or no?

516 6:14:03

MS. LECAROZ: No, you do not. We'll put it up for you.

517 6:14:08

MS. LECAROZ: And we can go back to the first page, if you'd like, or we can take a look at the unredacted version, if we need to.

518 6:14:14

MS. LECAROZ: Do you recognize these as text messages you sent to Mr. Depp on October 2nd, 2015?

519 6:14:25

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Yeah, vaguely. I mean, they're clearly my text messages, but, yeah, I recognize them, I think.

520 6:14:28

MS. LECAROZ: Okay.

521 6:14:31

MS. LECAROZ: And if we could go to the third page, please, Tom

522 6:14:36

MS. LECAROZ: And you'll see that the second blue box from the bottom there, you texted Mr. Depp and you said, "I love both of you so much and would fucking stay out of it if I thought this shit was past the point of no return, but that's not where you guys are right now.

523 6:14:49

MS. LECAROZ: Did I read that right?

524 6:14:52

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Oh, but that's not where you guys are at?

525 6:14:55

MS. LECAROZ: Yeah. So you didn't think they were past the point of no return in October of 2015, right?

526 6:15:00

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: At that point, clearly, I didn't.

527 6:15:09

MS. LECAROZ: You can take that down.

528 6:15:15

MS. LECAROZ: You wanted Ms. Heard to stay with Mr. Depp, even after you allegedly saw him hit her, right?

529 6:15:21

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: That's really oversimplifying something that's far from simple. Again, Amber was very much in love, so was Johnny. She's telling me that she wants something. Whether or not I agreed to it or not, whether or not I was okay with what was happening, it wasn't my place. If my sister said that she still wanted to be with Johnny and if I could help with that in any way, I was going to support her. I was going to be there for her to support that.

530 6:15:51

MS. LECAROZ: You didn't want to contradict your sister, right?

531 6:15:54
532 6:15:54

MS. LECAROZ: You didn't want to contradict your is sister?

533 6:15:58

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I don't know if I'd characterize it that way. ls Again, I was trying to support my sister the best that I could or knew how, what I thought she wanted.

534 6:16:06

MS. LECAROZ: And you say you wanted to protect her, though, right?

535 6:16:10

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: At that point? I don't know if I would characterize it as that. I was just trying to support my sister.

536 6:16:18

MS. LECAROZ: You went to Coachella with your sister for her 30th birthday in 2016, right?

537 6:16:22
538 6:16:23

MS. LECAROZ: And you testified that you were aware, I believe, that she and Mr. Depp had fought the night before?

539 6:16:27

MS. BREDEHOFT: Objection. Leading.

540 6:16:31

THE COURT: You've got to turn your microphone on, Ms. Bredehoft.

541 6:16:35

MS. BREDEHOFT: Never mind. I withdraw that objection.

542 6:16:36

THE COURT: Okay. Withdrawn.

543 6:16:37

THE COURT: You can answer the question, ma'am.

544 6:16:38

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Yes, I was aware that they had argued the night before.

545 6:16:42

MS. LECAROZ: You didn't see any bruises on Ms. Heard at Coachella that year, though, right?

546 6:16:46

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: She was wearing a lot of makeup.

547 6:16:48

MS. LECAROZ: You didn't see any marks on her?

548 6:16:51

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Not that I can recall.

549 6:16:52

MS. LECAROZ: Didn't notice any swelling, right?

550 6:16:56

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: To the best of my recollection, I don't.

551 6:17:01

MS. LECAROZ: And your sister didn't have a working phone on her that day, did she?

552 6:17:04

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: No, she didn't.

553 6:17:06

MS. LECAROZ: But you did?

554 6:17:07

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Yes, I did

555 6:17:08

MS. LECAROZ: And you wanted Mr. Depp to know that Ms. Heard's phone wasn't working, right?

556 6:17:12

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I believe I reached out to him for her, yeah.

557 6:17:16

MS. LECAROZ: And you were encouraging him to reach out to her through you if he was trying to reach her, right?

558 6:17:21

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I believe so, at one point, yes.

559 6:17:24

MS. LECAROZ: You didn't want him to think that he was ignoring her?

560 6:17:27

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I'm sorry?

561 6:17:28

MS. LECAROZ: You didn't want him to think that he was ignoring her, right?

562 6:17:33
563 6:17:34

MS. LECAROZ: And you wanted them to reconcile, didn't you?

564 6:17:37

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Amber really wanted him there, despite the fact that they had had a fight the night before. It was very complicated It was very nuanced. You know, they fought, they got back together. They fought, they loved each other. They hate each other, they loved each other. I just remember her wanting Johnny to come to Coachella at some point. I wasn't trying to reconcile them. I was just trying to help facilitate.

565 6:18:04

MS. LECAROZ: And you did that even though you were concerned about marks that you say you'd seen on •6 her since at least 2013, and during the course of their relationship, right?

566 6:18:13

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Again, that's really oversimplifying something. We all saw this -we all thought that Johnny- we would see Johnny on the other end of this. Because, again, he was sober, things were wonderful. When they weren't, when he wasn't sober, they were terrible. Sure. We all thought he was just going to get better. We all just wanted to see the other side of that. So, yes, sure, if you look at it simply, but it's not simple at all. I don't know how else to answer it.

567 6:18:43

MS. LECAROZ: And this was after you allegedly saw him hit her, right?

568 6:18:47
569 6:18:48

MS. LECAROZ: And you knew that they had just had another fight, right?

570 6:18:55
571 6:18:56

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Ms. Henriquez?

572 6:18:57
573 6:18:59

MS. LECAROZ: You know who Jennifer Howell is, right? She's the founder of The Art of Elysium nonprofit, right?

574 6:19:03
575 6:19:07

MS. LECAROZ: You worked there for a time, didn't you?

576 6:19:09
577 6:19:10

MS. LECAROZ: Around May 2015, you actually moved in ! with Ms. Howell, right?

578 6:19:14

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: May 2015?

579 6:19:15
580 6:19:17
581 6:19:17

MS. LECAROZ: And you moved out of the penthouses because, at that point, you and your sister were fighting, right?

582 6:19:23

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: It was -yeah, it was around the time that, you know, he had accused me of leaking stories, and that was the impetus of me leaving.

583 6:19:30

MS. LECAROZ: You testified earlier, I think, that he had asked you to sign a NDA, right?

584 6:19:34

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: At some point.

585 6:19:35

MS. LECAROZ: That was around the same time that he was concerned you were leaking stories about their wedding to the media?

586 6:19:41

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I believe so.

587 6:19:44

MS. LECAROZ: You and Ms. Howell were close?

588 6:19:46
589 6:19:47

MS. LECAROZ: Close enough that you lived with her for around a year?

590 6:19:51

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: I don't recall if it was that long.

591 6:19:53

MS. LECAROZ: And you confided in Ms. Howell, right?

592 6:19:56

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: About some things, yeah. She was my friend.

593 6:19:59

MS. LECAROZ: You called her your chosen sister?

594

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Nonverbal response.)

595 6:20:05

MS. LECAROZ: Ms. Henriquez, you've claimed to see signs of injuries on your sister during the course of her relationship with Mr. Depp, right?

596 6:20:11
597 6:20:12

MS. LECAROZ: But you never witnessed any incident that resulted in visible injuries to your sister, right?

598 6:20:19

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Other than the staircase incident? I witnessed that incident.

599 6:20:23

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: What are you asking me exactly?

600 6:20:25

MS. LECAROZ: You never witnessed any incidents that resulted in signs of injury that you were concerned about over the course of their relationship?

601 6:20:31

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Other than the staircase incident, I did witness that.

602 6:20:35

MS. LECAROZ: At no other time?

603 6:20:36

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: No, that was the only time that I saw him

604 6:20:40

MS. LECAROZ: And you didn't see what caused any of the injuries you claimed to have seen during the course of their relationship, right, other than the staircase incident?

605 6:20:46

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: Yeah, staircase incident is the only one that I saw.

606 6:20:49

MS. LECAROZ: But you have seen your sister land a blow to Mr. Depp, right?

607 6:20:50
608 6:20:52

WHITNEY HENRIQUEZ: That was the time, yeah. After he hit

609 6:20:56

MS. LECAROZ: No further questions, Your Honor.

610 6:20:57

THE COURT: Redirect?

611 6:20:58

MS. BREDEHOFT: I have no redirect.

612 6:20:59

THE COURT: Is this witness subject to recall?

613 6:21:01

MS. BREDEHOFT: No. She may be I IO excused.

614 6:21:03

THE COURT: Subject to recall? I'

615 6:21:05
616 6:21:07

THE COURT: Okay. Ma'am, you are free to go. You can stay in the courtroom. It's up to you, okay? Thank you.

617 6:21:13

THE COURT: All right.