Depp v. Heard Transcript Sean Bett
Depp v. Heard / Day 5 / April 19, 2022
3 pages · 3 witnesses · 1,703 lines
Day 5 completed Sean Bett's examination under damaging cross, moved through Keenan Wyatt's full cycle, and closed with the opening of Johnny Depp's direct testimony and his central denial of ever striking Heard.
Procedural Preliminary Matters
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COURT BAILIFF: All rise.

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THE COURT: Okay. Good morning.

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MR. CHEW: Good morning, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: All right. Do we have any preliminary matters before the jury comes out?

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MS. BREDEHOFT: No, Your Honor.

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MR. CHEW: No, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: Okay. That's a good day.

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THE COURT: All right. If we could have the witness, I Mr. Bett, come back to the stand.

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THE COURT: Is he here or is he outside?

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MS. VASQUEZ: I go grab him.

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THE COURT: Okay. Just so he can be I ready to go.

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THE COURT: All right. Sir, if you could, come back to the stand, please. Thank you. :19 All right. And I think we're ready for I the jury. Thank you.

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THE COURT: All right. You can have a seat, Mr. Bett.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, the jury entered the courtroom and the following proceedings took place.)

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THE COURT: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. All right. Just a reminder, Mr. Bett, that you're still under oath, okay?

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THE WITNESS: Correct.

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THE COURT: All right.

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[SECTION HEADER]: Cross-examination.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Thank you, Your Honor.

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[SECTION HEADER]: EXAMINATION BY COUNSEL FOR THE DEFENDANT AND BY MR. ROTTENBORN:

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Good morning, Mr. Bett.

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SEAN BETT: Good morning.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You're a full-time employee of I Mr. Depp, correct?

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SEAN BETT: That's correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You've been working with Mr. Depp for about 15 years?

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SEAN BETT: Give or take, correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And you make a salary from Mr. Depp, right?

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SEAN BETT: I do.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And in your role, one of your top priorities is to make sure Mr. Depp is safe and that if he's out, he gets home safely, correct?

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SEAN BETT: That's correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And Mr. Depp's safety is a priority over others that may be out with Mr. Depp, correct?

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SEAN BETT: His safety along with the safety of the people that are around him.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: But Mr. Depp's safety is the top priority, correct?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: That just goes without saying, right, in your role as his chief of security, right?

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SEAN BETT: Or as I said, it's his safety but those that are around him as well. But he is a priority.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And your job as security is to remain discreetly in the background, right?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You are not part of Mr. Depp's family, right?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You're not with him 24/7, right?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And you weren't with him 24/7 when he was in a relationship with Ms. Heard, correct?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And you obviously have no personal knowledge of what happens when you're not around, correct?

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SEAN BETT: That's correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And you have no personal knowledge of what happens behind closed doors with Mr. Depp, correct?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: When Mr. Depp was in a relationship with Ms. Heard, you weren't traveling out of Los Angeles as part of Mr. Depp's security, correct?

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SEAN BETT: I did on one occasion.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: What occasion was that?

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SEAN BETT: We did a trip to Austin, Texas.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: But other than that, you didn't travel outside of LA as part of your security when he was with Ms. Heard, correct?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: So you weren't in Australia in March of 2015, right?

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SEAN BETT: Correct. i 9

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You weren't on a plane flight from Boston to Los Angeles in May of 2014, correct?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You didn't go to the Bahamas with him, I correct?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You didn't go to Tokyo with him and Ms. Heard, correct?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You're around him almost every day when he's in Los Angeles, right?

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SEAN BETT: Almost.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Picking up food for him?

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SEAN BETT: Yes.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Pick up medicine for him?

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SEAN BETT: Yes.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Help coordinate visitors to his house?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Or his houses.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Pick up groceries for him?

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SEAN BETT: Yes.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And you Jet him into places like his residences, right?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Because he doesn't carry keys for them, right?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You drive him places --

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SEAN BETT: I do.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Correct? Almost every time he leaves his property, he's being driven rather than driving, correct?

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SEAN BETT: Almost every time.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And you help arrange that, right?

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SEAN BETT: Yes.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Your responsibility, one of them is to help get him where he needs to go, right?

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SEAN BETT: Yes.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You've woken him up in the mornings before?

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SEAN BETT: I have.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And yesterday I believe you testified that sometimes Mr. Depp would have just a glass of wine or two, right?

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SEAN BETT: Yes.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And you testified that his demeanor when he was slightly intoxicated was the same as if he had had a glass of sparkling water.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Do you remember giving that testimony?

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SEAN BETT: I do.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: The fact is you've seen him much more impaired than that, right?

94 15:18

SEAN BETT: I have.

95 15:19

MR. ROTTENBORN: You've seen him impaired enough that you've had to help put him to bed before, right?

96 15:26

SEAN BETT: I don't understand by "putting him to bed." 4

97 15:27

MR. ROTTENBORN: Well, there have been times when Mr. Depp was so impaired that you had to get up the stairs and open the bedroom doors for him, right?

98 15:39

SEAN BETT: Well, that specific bedroom door in his Los Angeles house, it has a tricky lock to it, so it's, you know, there have been times where I've gone upstairs and maybe had a glass of water for him, and so I would have to open that door for him, correct.

99 15:56

MR. ROTTENBORN: Right. So you've gotten him into bed -- you've gotten him some water, you've asked him if he needs anything, right?

100 16:01

SEAN BETT: Correct.

101 16:02

MR. ROTTENBORN: At times when he's been impaired, correct?

102 16:05

SEAN BETT: At times when he's just had breakfast and some coffee.

103 16:07

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you've stayed with him during difficult times when he's been impaired, there's times when you've stayed with him until he lays down and you tell him, "Good night," and you'll see him the next day, right?

104 16:16

SEAN BETT: I wouldn't stay with him. I just would say, "Good night. I'm going home, and I'll see you tomorrow," or if I happen to have a few days off, "I'll see you in a few days."

105 16:29

MR. ROTTENBORN: Yesterday -- you've actually prevented people from calling the police when Mr. Depp's behavior after drinking was bothering them, haven't you?

106 16:38

SEAN BETT: Prevented people?

107 16:40

MR. ROTTENBORN: Uh-huh.

108 16:42

SEAN BETT: Well, there's one time, correct.

109 16:43

MR. ROTTENBORN: Yeah. And in that occasion, Mr. Depp and some other people had had a couple perfect bottles of wine and pounded an entire bottle of tequila, right?

110 16:56

SEAN BETT: I don't remember how much they had to drink, no. I know there was drinking going on.

111 17:01

MR. ROTTENBORN: Mr. Depp told you that they had had a couple bottles of perfect wine and pounded an entire bottle of tequila, right?

112 17:07

SEAN BETT: I don't remember. That was some time long ago.

113 17:09

MR. ROTTENBORN: Heather, can you pull up Exhibit 892, please.

114 17:30

MR. ROTTENBORN: Mr. Bert, is this a text exchange that Is you had with Mr. Depp on September 1st, 2017, 2:34 to 2:36 in the afternoon?

115 17:40

SEAN BETT: If you just give me a moment, let me Is put my glasses on.

116 17:42

MR. ROTTENBORN: Sure. Take your time.

117 17:43

SEAN BETT: I have a hard time. Thank you. Okay. Much better.

118 17:49

SEAN BETT: Can you repeat that statement or question?

119 17:52

MR. ROTTENBORN: Sure, sure. My question was just is this a text exchange that you and Mr. Depp had on September 1st, 2017, from 2:34 to 2:36 in the afternoon?

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MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Relevance. The date, this is well after.

121 18:08

THE COURT: What's the relevance of 2017?

122 18:10

MR. ROTTENBORN: The relevance is that Mr. Bett testified yesterday that he'd seen Mr. Depp have a glass or two of wine, and this is direct evidence to contradict that.

123 18:19

THE COURT: All right. I'll allow it. All right.

124 18:21

MR. ROTTENBORN: Thank you, Your Honor.

125 18:24

THE COURT: Since there was no time frame on that. Okay.

126 18:26

SEAN BETT: Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. According to the O time stamp and date, that is a text message from Mr. Depp and I.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And at 2:34 p.m., Mr. Depp texts you, "Steaks were excellent and pondering, though we will likely have dinner here. Steaks were excellent. A couple of bottles of perfect wine. We then pounded an entire bottle of tequila!!! Then the savagery commenced!! Good morning!!!"

128 18:58

MR. ROTTENBORN: Did I read that right?

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SEAN BETT: You did. And there's an X and fah-jah after that.

130 19:07

MR. ROTTENBORN: Then you told Mr. Depp that you prevented them from calling police.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay. Also improper impeachment.

132 19:16

MR. ROTTENBORN: That's for the context of the text when he testified that he prevented him.

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THE COURT: All right. I'll allow it. All right. Go ahead.

134 19:22

MR. ROTTENBORN: Thank you, Your Honor.

135 19:24

MR. ROTTENBORN: So then, Mr. Bett, you texted Mr. Depp back two minutes later, and you said, "I prevented them from calling po-po. Glad you had fun. You mean dinner in room or restaurant?"

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Do you see that?

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SEAN BETT: I do.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And you sent that text to Mr. Depp, correct?

139 19:38

SEAN BETT: I did.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: By "po-po," you mean police, correct?

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SEAN BETT: That's correct.

142 19:43

MR. ROTTENBORN: You told them that you were glad he had fun, right?

143 19:47

SEAN BETT: Right.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Your Honor, permission b to move for admission of Exhibit 892 and permission to publish.

145 19:52

THE COURT: All right.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Our objection is relevance. This is well past the relationship between Mr. Depp and Ms. Heard.

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THE COURT: If it's just used for impeachment, why would it come into evidence?

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Well, it's Mr. Depp's statements about what he did when he pounded an entire bottle of tequila and the savagery that commenced. Therefore, it is his use of alcohol that's --

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THE COURT: In 2017?

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Uh-huh.

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THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you, Your Honor.

153 20:23

MR. ROTTENBORN: You're aware that Mr. Depp has used l drugs, right?

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SEAN BETT: I am.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And you've helped facilitate Mr. Depp's drug use on occasion, correct?

156 20:32

SEAN BETT: I haven't.

157 20:33

MR. ROTTENBORN: I'm sorry. I IS

158 20:35

SEAN BETT: I haven't.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You have not?

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SEAN BETT: I have not.

161 20:37

MR. ROTTENBORN: Heather, can you pull up Exhibit 967, please.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Mr. Bett, feel free to take the time that you need to to review this document, familiarize yourself with it. But my first question for you is just is this a text exchange that you had with Mr. Depp on June 12th, 2019?

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SEAN BETT: June 12th? According to these transcripts, yeah. It has my name and his name on it there.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Right. And it starts at the bottom and goes up, correct?

165 21:28

SEAN BETT: No, I'm sorry. I wasn't paying attention to the time stamps.

166 21:31

MR. ROTTENBORN: That's okay.

167 21:31

SEAN BETT: My apologies.

168 21:32

MR. ROTTENBORN: Hard to orient yourself with these sometimes.

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SEAN BETT: Okay. At the bottom, yeah, I do see 6/12/19 at 1 :50 p.m.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And then the more recent texts are as you go up the page, right?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: So in the bottom text, you're telling Mr. Depp that some people are at his house visiting and you say, "They'll be at the pool" --

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MS. VASQUEZ: Objection, Your Honor. Hearsay. Also relevance. This is 2019.

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THE COURT: What's the relevance?

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MR. ROTTENBORN: He just testified that he hadn't helped facilitate Mr. Depp's drug use, so this is for impeachment, and you've got to read the text in context to see how it impeaches him.

176 22:13

THE COURT: All right. If you could approach, please.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Sidebar.)

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THE COURT: All right. This is the hard copy. So you're saying this impeaches him for facilitating drug use?

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Yes, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: I haven't read it yet, so I'm not sure. Where in there do you say that happens?

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MR. ROTTENBORN: So "There's some visitors to the house," if you start at the bottom and read up, and Mr. Depp makes clear he doesn't want them to go down and see them, and he says, "the 'not-drugs' are down there" on, I think it's Entry 73. And then right above that, he says -- so the visitors are coming. He says -- on 74, he says something about "can't go downstairs until they split." And then he says "the 'not-drugs' is down there. What's a boy to do?" And he says, "Trying to help Daddy."

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THE COURT: I'm sorry. What is the impeachment of that?

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MR. ROTTENBORN: The impeachment is he i ! 1 says he hasn't helped facilitate Mr. Depp's drug /2 use. Mr. Depp is saying the "not-drugs" -- he doesn't want to go downstairs because the "not-drugs" is down there, meaning -- Is

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THE COURT: I don't know what that means.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Yeah. I don't either. That's not impeachment. That's not proper impeachment.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: I don't know what it means either, but it's --

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THE COURT: Then how can you say it's impeachment if you don't know what it means?

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Well, I'm going to ask him, "Well he says he doesn't want to go downstairs because 'the not-drugs,' meaning, like, the drugs are upstairs. I don't want to go downstairs."

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THE COURT: I understand that.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Do you know what I'm saying?

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THE COURT: I'm going to sustain the l ! 1 objection. I just don't see that as impeachment.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Okay. All right.

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MS. VASQUEZ: Thank you very much, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: Okay.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Open court.)

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MR. ROTTENBORN: BY MR. ROTTENBORN:

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Mr. Bett, you communicate with Mr. Depp through texts, correct?

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SEAN BETT: I do.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: That's your primary way of communicating with him?

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SEAN BETT: Well, not primary. I mean, if I happen to be in his presence, we'll communicate.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: Sure. But in terms of written communications, texting is the way that you guys primarily communicate, right?

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SEAN BETT: Correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And that's the same thing that you -- the same way that you communicate primarily with his other employees or with his family as well, right?

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SEAN BETT: Yes.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You have a practice of deleting all your texts with him at the end of the day or week, correct?

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SEAN BETT: That's correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: So there wouldn't be texts from his time when he was in a relationship with Amber Heard that you have possession of, correct?

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SEAN BETT: That's correct.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: You've never seen Amber do something that you would call physically violent or an assault of Mr. Depp, correct?

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SEAN BETT: Other than when I testified that she threw a water bottle or a plastic cup in his direction.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: But you wouldn't consider that physically violent or an assault of him, correct?

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SEAN BETT: Well, in California it's assault if you go to attempt to swing or throw something at somebody, even if you don't hit them.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: May I approach, Your Honor?

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THE COURT: All right.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: I'm just handing.

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THE COURT: Oh, you're just handing?

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MR. ROTTENBORN: I'm sorry.

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THE COURT: That's all right.

220 25:27

MR. ROTTENBORN: Mr. Bett, do you remember giving a deposition in this case?

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SEAN BETT: I do.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And you were under oath for that IO deposition, correct?

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SEAN BETT: I was.

224 25:35

MR. ROTTENBORN: And I asked you a number of questions, right?

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SEAN BETT: You asked me several, yes.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: I did. And if you can turn to page 111 of this transcript, please.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: It's on page 28 of the document.

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[STAGE DIRECTION]: (The witness complies.)

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SEAN BETT: Okay.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: If you look at line 22, the last line, and then heading over to page 112, do you see that?

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SEAN BETT: Got it.

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MR. ROTTENBORN: And in your deposition, I asked you b this question, and you gave this answer: "QUESTION: So is it fair to say that while you've seen Ms. Heard yell and get emotional toward Johnny, you've never seen her do something that you would call physically violent or assault of Johnny?

233 26:36

MR. ROTTENBORN: "ANSWER: correct." Did I read that right?

234 26:38

SEAN BETT: You did.

235 26:40

MR. ROTTENBORN: I'd like to turn to May 21st, 2016. That was the incident that we talked about last night, right before you -- we adjourned for the day, correct?

236 26:51

SEAN BETT: Correct.

237 26:52

MR. ROTTENBORN: You and Mr. Judge, Jerry Judge, brought Mr. Depp over to the penthouses at the Eastern Columbia Building that night, right?

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SEAN BETT: We did.

239 26:59

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you knew that he was going there to speak with Amber, correct?

240 27:04

SEAN BETT: And gather some belongings.

241 27:05

MR. ROTTENBORN: Your understanding was that Mr. Depp was going over there because they both wanted to talk and calm everything down, right?s

242 27:11

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Calls for speculation as to what Ms. Heard wanted.

243 27:15

THE COURT: I'll sustain the objection I if you want to rephrase.

244 27:18

MR. ROTTENBORN: Mr. Depp told you that he and Amber I were going to talk it out and talk about what's I going on, correct?

245 27:25

SEAN BETT: Correct.

246 27:25

MR. ROTTENBORN: And he had wine in the car on the way over, I believe you testified yesterday, right?

247 27:30

SEAN BETT: He did have a glass of wine, uh-huh.

248 27:35

MR. ROTTENBORN: And I think you testified it's possible he had been drinking during the day before you brought him over there, correct?

249 27:40

SEAN BETT: Correct. I saw him with a wine glass after his meeting when he came out into the hallway.

250 27:46

MR. ROTTENBORN: And when you no I'm sorry during the day before you picked him up to go over to the Eastern Columbia Building it's possible he had been drinking collect?

251 27:55

SEAN BETT: Well, we were at a meeting. He did have a glass of wine in his hand, so I presume he was drinking.

252 28:00

MR. ROTTENBORN: Okay. And when you arrived at the Eastern Columbia Building, you can't say one way or the other whether Mr. Depp was carrying wine O with him into the building, right?

253 28:09

SEAN BETT: I can't remember, no.

254 28:11

MR. ROTTENBORN: You and Mr. Judge let him into penthouse 3 and were in there for just a minute or two before you exited penthouse 3, correct?

255 28:21

SEAN BETT: Yes, give or take.

256 28:23

MR. ROTTENBORN: And then you stayed outside in the hallway of penthouse 3 for a bit, right?

257 28:28

SEAN BETT: Short period of time, correct.

258 28:29

MR. ROTTENBORN: I think you testified yesterday like ten minutes; is that right?

259 28:33

SEAN BETT: Yeah, give or take.

260 28:34

MR. ROTTENBORN: And then you, from there, you went from the hallway outside of penthouse 3 to penthouse 5, the storage area where you had a couch and a TV and that sort of thing that you testified about, right?

261 28:46

SEAN BETT: That's correct.

262 28:48

MR. ROTTENBORN: Ls that also known as the "guard shack"?

263 28:50

SEAN BETT: Modified version of the guard shack. It's just a place for us, as I testified yesterday, to, you know, rest or have lunch or some coffee.

264 28:57

MR. ROTTENBORN: Sometimes called the "cubbyhole"; is that right?

265 29:01

SEAN BETT: We might have called it that. I can't remember.

266 29:05

MR. ROTTENBORN: Okay. Just to orient us.

267 29:06

MR. ROTTENBORN: Heather, can you please pull up Plaintiffs Exhibit 116.

268 29:10

MR. ROTTENBORN: And, Your Honor, I believe this has already been entered into evidence.

269 29:13

THE COURT: I do believe so. Yes, it's in evidence. So you can ...

270 29:22

MR. ROTTENBORN: Can you rotate that, please. Counterclockwise. And then maybe just li, blow it up, please. And, Your Honor, permission to publish if it is not ah-early.

271 29:35

THE COURT: It is published.

272 29:48

MR. ROTTENBORN: Thank you. Oh, thank you.

273 29:55

MR. ROTTENBORN: So, Mr. Bett, if you -- just to orient us, am I correct in saying that the -- well, could you put your finger just on the guard shack area of penthouse 5, please?

274 30:12

SEAN BETT: Sure it's just -- the diagram, the schematics, is kind of off because of the way Broadway is set up. It doesn't coincide with the way the buildings were. But I can make an attempt to show you where the ...

275 30:25

MR. ROTTENBORN: Yeah. I think the screen will make a ! 19 mark if you show on it.

276 30:36

SEAN BETT: Okay. I mean, I'm having a ...

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278 30:47

SEAN BETT: I'm not seeing the marks. So this is, I'd say, right in this area right here.

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280 30:51

SEAN BETT: Is it showing up?

281 30:53

THE COURT: Yes.

282 30:53

SEAN BETT: Because there would be elevators to the right.

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284 30:56

SEAN BETT: Okay.

285 30:56

MR. ROTTENBORN: Yeah, yeah, that's showing up.

286 30:58

SEAN BETT: Okay.

287 30:59

MR. ROTTENBORN: So that's down the hall from outside of penthouse 3, right?

288 31:03

SEAN BETT: Correct.

289 31:04

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you stayed in that guard shack for, I believe you said, five to ten minutes; is that right?

290 31:13

SEAN BETT: Yes.

291 31:13

MR. ROTTENBORN: So if you spent about ten minutes outside penthouse 3 and then five to ten minutes inside the guard shack, you say you were at the building for, what, a total of 30 minutes or so?

292 31:27

SEAN BETT: It could have been a little bit longer. It could have been 40, could have been closer to an hour. It was quite some time ago.

293 31:34

MR. ROTTENBORN: But you're fairly confident it was 40 minutes to an hour?

294 31:39

SEAN BETT: Around that time frame, correct.

295 31:41

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you said that you arrived at the building sometime between 7:15 and 7:45; is that what you said yesterday?

296 31:48

SEAN BETT: Yeah.

297 31:48

MR. ROTTENBORN: What's your best guess?

298 31:51

SEAN BETT: It would be an estimate guess, maybe more towards eightish, but, again, it could have been 7:30, I just.

299 32:01

MR. ROTTENBORN: Okay. More towards eightish? All right. And so you stayed in the guard shack for five to ten minutes, and then you left the guard shack and headed back up the hall toward the door of penthouse 3, right?

300 32:12

SEAN BETT: Yes.

301 32:13

MR. ROTTENBORN: And at some point, you heard Amber shouting, and you let yourself into penthouse 3, 2_2_n_ g_h_t?

302 32:19

SEAN BETT: That's correct.

303 32:19

MR. ROTTENBORN: The closest you got to Amber when you went into penthouse 3 was 15 to 20 feet, right?

304 32:27

SEAN BETT: Around that, correct.

305 32:29

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you were in penthouse 3 for just about 30 seconds to a minute before you left again with Mr. Depp, right?

306 32:39

SEAN BETT: Around that time frame.

307 32:41

MR. ROTTENBORN: You don't remember what Ms. Heard was O wearing, do you?

308 32:45

SEAN BETT: I don't.

309 32:45

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you can't remember if she was crying when you saw her, right?

310 32:50

SEAN BETT: I didn't see her crying.

311 32:51

MR. ROTTENBORN: You can't remember if she was crying, right?

312 32:54

MR. ROTTENBORN: I just said I didn't see her crying.

313 32:56

MR. ROTTENBORN: She could have been crying, right?

314 32:58

MS. VASQUEZ: Objection. Calls for speculation and asked and answered.

315 33:01

MR. ROTTENBORN: It's a different question.

316 33:02

THE COURT: I'll sustain that objection. Next question, please.

317 33:04

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you can't remember if she had any makeup on or not, right?

318 33:09

SEAN BETT: If she did, she had very little.

319 33:12

MR. ROTTENBORN: You just can't remember if she did, right?

320 33:16

SEAN BETT: I mean, yeah. I mean, it's possible, but it was a long time ago.

321 33:39

MR. ROTTENBORN: Turn to page 160, please, in your I deposition.

322 33:53

SEAN BETT: Okay. That would be page 40 as well?

323 33:56

MR. ROTTENBORN: Page 40, yeah. Yes, sir.

324 33:58

SEAN BETT: Okay.

325 34:00

MR. ROTTENBORN: And on line 1, I asked you the question, "Did Ms. Heard have any -- you couldn't tell if she was wearing any makeup, right?" Your answer was "I can't remember if she had any makeup on or not." Did I read that right?

326 34:15

SEAN BETT: You did.

327 34:18

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you don't know what -- you have no personal knowledge of what transpired in penthouse 3 while you were outside of it that evening, correct?

328 34:26

SEAN BETT: I don't.

329 34:27

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you have no personal knowledge of whether Amber had a phone thrown at her face by Johnny Depp that evening, correct?

330 34:34

SEAN BETT: I don't.

331 34:35

MR. ROTTENBORN: Because you weren't there, right?

332 34:36

SEAN BETT: That's correct.

333 34:37

MR. ROTTENBORN: So you left penthouse 3, and then you I went into penthouse 5 at Mr. Depp's insistence that he get into penthouse 5, right?

334 34:45

SEAN BETT: That's correct.

335 34:46

MR. ROTTENBORN: And he was agitated at this time, l I right?

336 34:52

SEAN BETT: I'm sorry. You say I went into Its penthouse 3 or penthouse 5 at this time?

337 34:57

MR. ROTTENBORN: I'm sorry. You left penthouse 3 after 30 to 60 seconds with Mr. Depp and Mr. Judge, and you went to penthouse 5, right?

338 35:07

SEAN BETT: Correct.

339 35:08

MR. ROTTENBORN: And that's because Mr. Depp was demanding to get into penthouse 5, right?

340 35:13

SEAN BETT: Yes.

341 35:13

MR. ROTTENBORN: And Mr. Depp was agitated at this time, right?

342 35:17

SEAN BETT: Yeah, I'd say he was agitated.

343 35:20

MR. ROTTENBORN: And one of the reasons that you could tell that he was agitated was because this wasn't the first time you had seen him agitated, right?

344 35:25

SEAN BETT: Well, no.

345 35:30

MR. ROTTENBORN: Mr. Depp told you to let him into penthouse 5 and you did that, right?

346 35:34

SEAN BETT: Yes.

347 35:34

MR. ROTTENBORN: And when he left penthouse 3 to go to penthouse 5, you can't remember if he had wine in his hand or not, correct?

348 35:42

SEAN BETT: I can't

349 35:43

MR. ROTTENBORN: I'm sorry?

350 35:44

SEAN BETT: I can't.

351 35:45

MR. ROTTENBORN: Cannot?

352 35:45

SEAN BETT: Cannot.

353 35:45

MR. ROTTENBORN: And when you walked into penthouse 5 inside were Rocky Pennington; her fiance, Josh Drew; and another woman and a dog, right?

354 35:52

SEAN BETT: That's correct.

355 35:54

MR. ROTTENBORN: Mr. Depp told them to get out of his penthouse, right?

356 35:58

SEAN BETT: Yes.

357 35:58

MR. ROTTENBORN: And they exited, right?

358 36:00

SEAN BETT: They did.

359 36:01

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you can't remember one way or the O other whether Mr. Depp knocked anything off the table in any of the penthouses, right?

360 36:09

SEAN BETT: It's possible he did, but I can't remember.

361 36:19

MR. ROTTENBORN: Did you or Mr. Judge, just to be clear, did you or Mr. Judge destroy any property or knock anything off tables in any of the penthouses that evening?

362 36:29
363 36:30

MR. ROTTENBORN: You have no personal knowledge of whether or not Mr. Depp was violent to Ms. Heard at times when you weren't around them, correct?

364 36:38

SEAN BETT: I have no knowledge.

365 36:40

MR. ROTTENBORN: And Ms. Heard may have suffered injuries at the hands of Mr. Depp over the years that you didn't witness or you didn't see, correct?

366 36:47

SEAN BETT: That's correct.

367 36:50

MR. ROTTENBORN: I'd like to end by just taking a look at the videos of you entering and exiting the Is building, I believe.

368 36:57

MR. ROTTENBORN: Heather, could you pull up Exhibit 672.

369 37:05

MR. ROTTENBORN: Your Honor, I believe that these were part of Mr. Patterson's deposition and that they've been admitted.

370 37:13

THE COURT: I do have 672 admitted, correct.

371 37:16

MS. VASQUEZ: Yes, that's correct, Your Honor. Thank you.

372 37:18

MR. ROTTENBORN: And the next one will ! be 666, just to confirm.

373 37:22

THE COURT: Okay. All right. We have that as well.

374 37:23

MR. ROTTENBORN: Thank you, Your Honor. Heather, could you play this starting at 1. Actually, before we start --

375 37:31

MR. ROTTENBORN: Do you see this on your screen, Mr. Bett?

376 37:34

SEAN BETT: I do.

377 37:35

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you see the time stamp at the bottom? That shows what time the camera -- the video was taken, correct?

378 37:44

SEAN BETT: I see the time stamp and the date.

379 37:47
380 37:47

MR. ROTTENBORN: Let's go ahead and ! 12 play this, Heather. Start at 1 :55.

381

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, a video clip was shown.)

382 38:09

MR. ROTTENBORN: That's you in that black-and-white shirt, right?

383 38:13

SEAN BETT: That's me.

384 38:14

MR. ROTTENBORN: That's Mr. Depp in the hat?

385 38:17

SEAN BETT: Correct.

386 38:17

MR. ROTTENBORN: And that's Mr. Judge to his left?io

387 38:21

SEAN BETT: Correct.

388 38:25

MR. ROTTENBORN: And this video is when you're entering the Eastern Columbia Building to take him to 'penthouse 3, correct?'

389 38:33

SEAN BETT: Correct.

390 38:34

MR. ROTTENBORN: So it's actually a good bit earlier than you testified to, right, it's at 7:02, if I'm converting military time to --

391 38:42

SEAN BETT: Well, that's what the time stamp says. I mean, I don't know how it was calibrated and so forth. But according to the screen, it does say 19:02 hours, which is 7:02.

392 38:51

MR. ROTTENBORN: 7:02 p.m., right?

393 38:52

SEAN BETT: Correct.

394 38:52

MR. ROTTENBORN: On May 21st, 2016?

395 38:53

SEAN BETT: Correct.

396 38:55

MR. ROTTENBORN: Heather, you can take that down. And please pull up Exhibit 666.

397 39:15

MR. ROTTENBORN: And you see that the time stamp on this video is -- well, let's go ahead and play the video first.

398

[STAGE DIRECTION]: (Whereupon, a video clip was shown.)

399 39:56

MR. ROTTENBORN: And that's you on the right again, right?

400 39:58

SEAN BETT: It is.

401 39:59

MR. ROTTENBORN: And that's Mr. Judge in the middle, right?

402 40:01

SEAN BETT: Yes.

403 40:02

MR. ROTTENBORN: And that's Mr. Depp on the left, correct?

404 40:10

SEAN BETT: Yes, yes.

405 40:12

MR. ROTTENBORN: And the time stamp on this video is 20:29, or 8:29 p.m, right?

406 40:16

SEAN BETT: That's correct.

407 40:17

MR. ROTTENBORN: So you were actually in the Eastern Columbia Building for about an hour and a half that evening, right?

408 40:23

SEAN BETT: Well, according to these time stamps, yes, it does say that. It didn't seem like it "as that long.

409 40:29

MR. ROTTENBORN: I have nothing further, thank you

410 40:35

SEAN BETT: Thank you

411 40:41

THE COURT: Alright. Redirect.

412

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413 40:48

MS. VASQUEZ: Mr. Bett, you previously testified that when you left penthouse 3 and went into penthouse 5, who was inside that penthouse when you entered with Mr. Depp?

414 41:01

SEAN BETT: Josh Drew, an unknown female, and a little dog.

415 41:05

MS. VASQUEZ: Was Ms. Pennington inside penthouse 3 when you entered with Mr. Depp?

416 41:09

SEAN BETT: I'm sorry. You said penthouse 5, ill didn't you? Am I getting my numbers ...

417 41:13

MS. VASQUEZ: You're right. My apologies.

418 41:14

SEAN BETT: I'm sorry.

419 41:15

MS. VASQUEZ: Let me start over, confusing. When you left penthouse 3 and went into penthouse 5, who was inside? Try this again.

420 41:24

SEAN BETT: Okay. Josh Drew, an unknown female, and a cute little dog.

421 41:31

MS. VASQUEZ: Where was Ms. Pennington? Was she inside penthouse 3 when you entered --

422 41:37

SEAN BETT: She was not in penthouse 5, no.

423 41:39

MS. VASQUEZ: Penthouse 5 when you entered?

424 41:41

MS. VASQUEZ: Where was the last place you saw Ms. Pennington on May 21st?

425 41:45

SEAN BETT: She was standing next to Ms. Heard in penthouse number 3.

426 41:52

MS. VASQUEZ: I think there's been also a little bit of confusion about April 21st, 2016 and May 21st, 2016. So let's start with April 21st, 2016.

427 41:59

MR. ROTTENBORN: Objection just to Ms. Vasquez testifying.

428 42:06

MS. VASQUEZ: I'm just trying to orient ! 11 the witness, Your Honor.

429 42:07

THE COURT: All right. Well, go ahead.

430 42:09

MS. VASQUEZ: I'll try to limit that.

431 42:11

THE COURT: Thank you.

432 42:13

MS. VASQUEZ: Where was Mr. Depp on April 21st, 2016?

433 42:18

SEAN BETT: On April 21st, he was at a meeting in his production office.

434 42:24

MS. VASQUEZ: Okay. And I believe you testified I previously that you saw him holding a glass of I wine; is that right?

435 42:31

SEAN BETT: Correct.

436 42:32

MS. VASQUEZ: Okay. Did he appear intoxicated to you after that meeting?

437 42:36

SEAN BETT: He didn't.

438 42:38

MS. VASQUEZ: I'm sorry? I didn't catch that.

439 42:39

SEAN BETT: He did not.

440 42:40

MS. VASQUEZ: He did not, okay.

441 42:42

MS. VASQUEZ: Now, on May 21st, 2016, was Mr. Depp drinking wine that day?

442 42:48

SEAN BETT: He did have wine with him, yes, correct.

443 42:51

MS. VASQUEZ: And at what point did you observe Mr. Depp with wine on May 21st, 2016?

444 42:58

SEAN BETT: He probably had it in the car with him when we were driving down, and he could have finished it prior to us walking to penthouse 3.

445 43:15

MS. VASQUEZ: And did Mr. Depp, based on your observations, Mr. Bett, appear intoxicated to you on May 21st, 2016, before he arrived to the Eastern Columbia Building?

446 43:22

SEAN BETT: He didn't.

447 43:24

MS. VASQUEZ: He did not?

448 43:28

SEAN BETT: He did not.

449 43:32

MS. VASQUEZ: Did you ever observe anything that made you concerned for Ms. Beard's safety?

450 43:37

MR. ROTTENBORN: Objection. Foundation. And leading.

451 43:43

THE COURT: I'll allow it if you can answer it this way.

452 43:45

SEAN BETT: I did not.

453 43:47

MS. VASQUEZ: What, if anything, did you observe that made you concerned for Mr. Depp's safety?

454 43:52

SEAN BETT: From the injuries I saw on his face when, on a few occasions, I took photos of them.

455 43:59

MS. VASQUEZ: Okay. Nothing further. Thank you, Your Honor.

456 44:00

THE COURT: All right. Is this witness subject to recall?

457 44:02

MS. VASQUEZ: No, Your Honor.

458 44:04

THE COURT: Not subject to recall.

459 44:04

MR. ROTTENBORN: No, Your Honor.

460 44:05

THE COURT: Okay. So you're free to go, or you can have a seat in the courtroom. It's up to you, all right?

461 44:08

SEAN BETT: Thank you so much.

462 44:09

THE COURT: Thank you. You have a good day, sir. All right. Your next witness.